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z50com · ‎02-28-2017

I WON'T DO IT

For 10% I will no longer jump thru the hoops

I'm going back to 3 day handling and paid shipping

I'm also raising my prices

I DON'T NEED THIS ANYMORE

http://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/comments///1488296012.html#

z50com · ‎02-28-2017

Should I tell my dogs they can no longer eat?

I don't have an extra $100 to spare

To some people a $100 is a lot of money

Boeing pays me $307 a month in retirement and I'm not old enough to collect SS

twnpopcards · ‎02-28-2017

@keithharrierenterprises wrote:
@lizwii wrote:
So they want more tracking (95%) to give us less money (10%)? What a terrible decision.

@blade-runner-2049 i agree with u though. if they wanted to cut the trs down to increase profits they should have made it 95% or even 98% shipping on time and vaildated. and then gave those that remain an increase of the TRS plus discount to a little more than 20%... now by a business standpoint that would have made them a whole lot in fees from those that didnt make it, but it would have rewarded those that did. the offset though would have given ebay way more profit as well as the the others a reason to keep it up. as well as giving those on the edge the reason to push to get there.

Ebay has been saying for years that they never expected to have the number of TRS+ discounts that they have had to give out. They have been tightening the screws with each Sellers Update to lower the number of TRS+ sales and I guess they just couldn't get down to the number they needed so this is how they do it. First they cut the Ebay bucks by 50% which tends to lower sales as buyers have less incentive to buy on Ebay, now they take 50% of the TRS Discount away which will lower the number of TRS sellers working for the discount. I guess they finally got desperate enough to take the PR hit and nail their best sellers. It sure would be interesting to see how much of an increase (if any) the megasellers and Chinese sellers get since they have separate contracts from what the rest of the smaller sellers on Ebay have.

So by getting rid of 10% of the FVF from ALL TRS+ Listings that will make a huge spike in revenue starting in May 2017 (suprisingly just before they are rolling out the forced use of Sellers Hub and the New listing Tool). This reduction will give Ebay a sudden spike in revenues and a FALSE growth number for the second quarter since this increase will be included in the so called growth number. I guess they do not have as much confidence in the revenues this rollout is going to have and need to show Wall Street numbers that are better than they have been for the past couple of years and then pass it off as being due to the new Sellers Hub and the use of Artificial Intelligence.

I definitely will not jump through hoops for the 10% discount anymore but if it works out for me in my normal course of selling and shipping, then I will continue to accept it. I have a feeling that Ebay is going to be losing a lot of that fixed store revenue they have been depending on starting in May and june when the annual subscriptions are up as so many store owners are completely disillusioned with Ebay and their new improved search engine and landing pages. So they have to make it up somehow as I just have this feeling that when they make the change to eliminate Turbo Lister and force all sellers to use Sellers Hub and that New Advance Listing Tool that just sits there with the circle spinning and spinning they are going to lose lot more revenue than they expect.

Of course, no changes to help the sellers in the battle with buyer fraud and the false SNAD's, but why would I think they would work on something that would really help their sellers since we are just noise and a dime a dozen.

David

Twnpopcards

numberonegrampa · ‎02-28-2017

Just think. You will have lots less money to count RIGHT?

tripp_the_lab · ‎02-28-2017

@z50com wrote:
Should I tell my dogs they can no longer eat?

I don't have an extra $100 to spare

To some people a $100 is a lot of money

Boeing pays me $307 a month in retirement and I'm not old enough to collect SS

You should have never used the discount to feed your dogs. When I sold I pricedmmy items as if there was no discount. When I achieved the discount it was an added bonus, like TRS is supposed to be.

You can call me Tony

twnpopcards · ‎02-28-2017

@teklifestyle wrote:
Only if you are below standards in your seller profile where it tells you you are top rated above standard , standard or below standard. So if you are a stamp shipper with no tracking you will end up being charged more fees for example.

@teklifestyle

No they won't be charged more since they will still remain above average by not uploading the tracking numbers. I have a second account where I use PWE only and the only thing these effect is my ability to attain Top Rated Seller status which now may not be worth messing with anyway. Might be time to combine things into one account.

David

Twnpopcards

closeoutdealsusa · ‎02-28-2017

If you pay $1000 a month means you had sales of $10,000, so to me $100 is like another return. Plus you always can adjust you prices because the competition will.

usmc*usnmom · ‎02-28-2017

I posted this in another thread, I think I meant to post it here, but whatever...I'll post it here, too.

I'm a TRS doing what I've always done, and I've never counted on any freebie gifts from Ebay, because I know they can be taken away at any second. I don't factor any discounts in my business plan, it's just gift or found money in my pocket. I don't count on finding money on the street every day, and I don't count on discounts Ebay gives me. Same thing.

I'm more upset with the fee increase. That's a tangible expense, and on top of the recent shipping cost increase I may wind up raising prices, something I haven't had to do in a while.

I love you forever, Christie! Fly high, precious daughter 1/14/1987-12/20/2016

tealt · ‎02-28-2017

Ebay has been saying for years that they never expected to have the number of TRS+ discounts that they have had to give out. They have been tightening the screws with each Sellers Update to lower the number of TRS+ sales and I guess they just couldn't get down to the number they needed so this is how they do it.
...
So by getting rid of 10% of the FVF from ALL TRS+ Listings that will make a huge spike in revenue starting in May 2017 (suprisingly just before they are rolling out the forced use of Sellers Hub and the New listing Tool).
...
Of course, no changes to help the sellers in the battle with buyer fraud and the false SNAD's, but why would I think they would work on something that would really help their sellers since we are just noise and a dime a dozen.

David
Twnpopcards

Yep. To all of that.

The $30 PL credit? That's a whole $10/month, and no good except on multi-quantity listings.

Rate tables? I wonder how many sellers asked for that. The shipping calculator still works just fine.

Removing off-site ads from listings? Maybe, but the last line... "Limited third-party advertisements will continue to be displayed." sounds like weasel words to me.

keithharrierenterprises · ‎02-28-2017

@*heather_lee* wrote:
Well, when the time comes, I'm just going to have to do what I do, and let the cards fall where they may. The time I *just* spent getting excited over the store options (for future encouragement) was a waste of my time. So much for that. I'll lay that to the side for future consideration. Obviously, when the time comes, if the difference in "benefits" is a barely there margin, I'll forego going with one of those and just remain a very good, small seller (and leave it at that). I'm not interested in playing games with my money.

@*heather_lee* the store is still worth it if you have more than your 50 free listings. all other aside, the extra listing fee drops dramatically with each level. there is an ebay caluclator on this on ebay somewhere.

either way if you build your store crorectly and get it when you pass the standard free 50 listings thing, it still makes sense.

the rest of of just have to adapt no one is happy when it gets to paying what some of us pay, but again, unfortunately it is the sonsumer paying it. at first the ones that dont know willnot change prices, and they will fall in 6 months to a year and those smart will stand.

but if i just started selling and broke 50 listings, i would not change a thing.

mr_lincoln · ‎02-28-2017

@*heather_lee*

@*heather_lee* wrote:
I would appreciate an explanation as to how eBay is "investing" as you say when, along with the changes, comes a decrease in the financial benefits? It seems to me that the sellers who have reached these points are, in fact, the ones paying (investing) in these changes when it comes down to their "bottom line" profit(s).
I'm personally having a difficult time accepting your explanation as being accurate.
Would you be willing to clarify please? Perhaps I am just mistaken.

You hit the mail on the head along with eBay giving less incentive to even attain a higher TRS status. The post by the eBay employee here singled out one solitary member who lost their TRS but will regain it in 3-4 weeks yet ignored the viable replies and concerns of other, obviously savvy, business people here. A little insulting to be honest. So in the end all of the alleged improvements are being paid for by the membership ... now if they had said "Hey Sellers, we garuantee that with sll the new changes and enhancement we are making your sales will increase by 35% then that would offset the lost benefit in the TRS discount but it and more would be returned with increased sale ... but no, nothing like that was stated.

Regards,
Mr. Lincoln - Community Mentor

auctionpet · ‎02-28-2017

@murphy5 wrote:
Honestly reducing the top rated discount is such a insult. Ebay really does try to get every penny from you. So annoying. I will be raising my prices as well.

You can raise your prices all you want, doesn't mean buyers will be paying them. They have plenty of sellers to chose from! A price increase won't necessarily garner you more money.

Ebay can get away with the increase because there are so many sellers! They make more $ off non TRS seller, so they don't care.

njrtsr · ‎02-28-2017

Well they shut down my thread that emphasized and explained this point...

The new TRS Discount will give you LESS than a Dollar back for every 100 Dollars you sell!

It's chasing after peanuts at this point.

z50com · ‎02-28-2017

I will keep my store open because it makes business sense to do so.

But I'll give up the TRS and move to 3 day handling and paid shipping.

Back to 14 day returns and a small price increase just for the heck of it. . .

No longer is my customer #1, it's my turn to be #1. . .

eBay burned my pom poms this morning 😞

usmc*usnmom · ‎02-28-2017

@z50com wrote:

No longer is my customer #1, it's my turn to be #1. . .

So you're going to punish your buyers for something out of their control?

I love you forever, Christie! Fly high, precious daughter 1/14/1987-12/20/2016

creativecrisis · ‎02-28-2017

@raquel_bayarea wrote:

We have received feedback from Top Rated sellers that they want more tools and options to grow their business. The changes we’re making reflect our ongoing investment in helping them do just that and to ensure the best marketplace health and competition. Your investment in building a strong business that attracts customers will benefit you as we make these investments focusing on growth. Be sure to take a look at what we are doing in store updates and promoting visibility so you are taking full advantage of options available to you.