01-15-2020 11:32 AM
I recently posted about slow sales on Ebay and how I believe problems with Ebay's site are at least partially responsible for subpar sales. While I wholeheartedly believe this to be true, I also feel like something is up with the economy. Within my circle of friends and acquaintances, I see a lot of people either barely holding their own or struggling with finances. When times are good, I typically see people doing remodels, buying big ticket items and going on vacations. I see very little of these activities going on in my community. Is it my imagination or just a local thing, or are you seeing the same. Just wanted to get the perspectives of the Ebay community throughout the U.S. Thanks!
01-16-2020 09:01 AM
I am not a rich man by any means. Raised my family in the nineties took them on vacation every year, some times twice and retired a few years ago. Never had a high paying job. Always worked my job and held a second job even if that second job was this site. I now live on social security and the little bit of money I make with my part time restoration business. I go all the places that the rest of my retired friends go to and have not touched my IRA yet.
A few years back when I rolled my 401K into a IRA the financial advisors told me that that they had never met any one like me and asked me how I did it. Easy reply. First, worked my fingers to the bone. Second, I cut my credit cards up thirty five years ago. Third, I paid off every thing I owned decades ago, house, cars, boats, every thing. Only borrowed money for a couple of car loans. Paid them off promptly. Basically I have lived within my means.
Now I watch my younger friends struggle. These young people are making upwards of eighty thousand dollars a year! They know my situation and ask me how I do it. My reply to them, It's not about how much you make. it's about life choices. Live within your means and fight the urge to keep up with the Jones'!
It's disappointing to me to see people who hate Trump so bad that they actually root for a recession.
CNN is the biggest spreader of **bleep** that there ever was. Glad to see that they have been held accountable for this one incident and I hope others that have been wronged my the media mob follow suit.
Is it my imagination or has CNN become a little more truthful since they got sued for two hundred and fifty million?
As far as the 2008 collapse, I saw it coming and moved my 401K to a trust and held the bleeding to a minimum. A lot of people did not and lost it all.
The collapse was actually caused by the housing market when Clinton thought that owning house was for every one. When a borrower didn't meet the criteria for home ownership Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac fudged the numbers so they could qualify. When these borrowers defaulted on those loans the wheels came off the bus. Just happened to be on George Bush's' watch.
01-16-2020 09:09 AM
The fundamentals of the boom/bust economy have not changed, so to think the cycle will magically stop is foolish. Consumer debt is a trillion higher than it was right before crash. The top 10% now hold 70% of the wealth. 50% of housing has surpassed bubble levels. There was no offset effect from the Trump tax cuts, that was simply added to deficit spending. Historically, we head into a recession with higher interest rates, lower to stimulate the economy, and raise to curb inflation as things boom. This time, we will be going in without that buffer. In my opinion, this is the end result of Keynesian economic theory dictating fiscal policy, and things could get real ugly this time around. Just my opinion, and I hope I'm wrong, God knows I've been wrong before, but I don't see this leading to anything but disaster.
01-16-2020 09:12 AM
@turquoisetulips wrote:. CNN is the biggest culprit of all these fears. collections
Yes but let's hope with the fact that CNN just lost a lawsuit for lying and now must pay millions of dollars in damages will send out a clear message to all other forms of media that if you continue to report garbage you WILL be held accountable . Tulips
Let's hope so. Fox "News" should pay good attention.
01-16-2020 09:24 AM - edited 01-16-2020 09:25 AM
One day our feeble power grid will fail. It won't take much for that to happen, either - a couple of unfortunate lightning strikes in the right places, a massive equipment failure somewhere, or a CME. Our grid is horribly antiquated and in bad condition, even in the best of areas. The JIT supply chain is another huge problem. One break in the chain and you'll have people rioting because they can't get their new phones...or their new Nikes...or their FOOD.
This is not a problem caused by the Trump administration, or the Obama administration. It's been happening for decades as the government and the companies involved have turned a blind eye to the issues. Meanwhile, our consumerbot society carries merrily along, spending money they don't have for stuff they don't need.
How many people are prepared to go months without power, water or food? Most people can't even go a week without having to go to the grocery store. Y'all see what it's like when a hurricane or snowstorm is forecast? Hordes of people clearing out the store shelves for basics they should have already had on hand.
Recession? Yeah, that's the least of my worries.
Oh, and news? Forget FOX, forget CNN, forget all those mainstream places. Read it from Reuters, or don't read it at all.
01-16-2020 10:05 AM
What % of the population do you think cares if the stock market is doing well? Economy is not great. Those without $ are falling more & more in debt. Rich get richer; poor get poorer; middle class is shrinking. Greed rules the world.
01-16-2020 10:12 AM
01-16-2020 10:26 AM - edited 01-16-2020 10:27 AM
"Wow! Until I read this thread, I had no idea so many Economic PhDs doubled as Ebay sellers. Who needs CNBC when we have this forum?"
You do know, I have the ability to read opinions of experts and to study economic history. Additionally, you have no idea of the background of any particular Ebay seller. You are making broad assumptions, with little knowledge.
01-16-2020 11:19 AM
I'm not an economic PhD, but I do watch CNBC every weekday morning as they tend to offer differing views of all things economic. I am also among those that lived below my means my entire adult life and have no debt so I can live comfortably on my social security check and small pension. My required IRA withdrawal goes to charity.
I don't worry about a recession, but I do worry about the electrical grid and other infrastructure that has not been maintained. I worry about the environment - mainly because of the carelessness of humans - not so much because of fossil fuels. I am concerned about our education system that focuses far too much on pieces of paper and not enough on preparing young people for life in the real world.
I have little respect for any of the current crop of political critters - they aren't trustworthy and I don't think any of them have the best interests of this country as a whole at heart.
I'm not normally a pessimist, but the longer I live the more concerned I am about what the future will bring, because we're just accumulating problems not solving them. eBay is a perfect example of that.
01-16-2020 11:27 AM
01-16-2020 11:28 AM
01-16-2020 11:37 AM
If CNN is so honest why did we all have to listen to Russia/collusion made up story from them for two and a half years. Oh and lets not forget all the other "bombshells" they drop on us. Oh and by he way in case you weren't paying attention the poles are a bunch of whoie. Same ones that said Trump didn't have a chance.
01-16-2020 11:44 AM
Concur with that one. Our local stores are full of buyers. You can inspect what you are buying, see what type of quality you are getting and the only fault is your own if you don't like your item. You can even try a clothing item on. No waiting, no shipping and no chance of loss in the mail. Done.
01-16-2020 12:25 PM - edited 01-16-2020 12:29 PM
The economic experts you see on the MSM are nothing more than paid shills who tow the line of the people handing them a paycheck. The majority of those "experts" failed to call the 2008 crash, even though it was obvious that disaster was looming. Anyone of reasonable intelligence can spend a couple of months with their nose in books on economic theory and see the house of cards being rebuilt here. No PHD needed. Once again, the economy is not being fueled by savings or productive capital investment. It is being fueled by debt, and rampant speculation. The too big to fails are already leveraged way past 2008 levels. 0% for 8 years, and easing is going on again. It does not matter if it's loans for housing people cant afford, student loans, cars, unsecured credit fueling the consumer economy, or keeping people off the street. The burst is proportional the the amount of artificial stimulus used to create it.
01-16-2020 12:28 PM
01-16-2020 12:35 PM
@richards*rock*collection wrote:
Top ramon will still be delivered to your door by the case so I think we all will still be ok.
And American Idol is still on to watch while eating that ramen. Nothing could possibly go wrong.