06-04-2020 11:54 AM
I want to warn people that all selling platforms on the internet will be selling a bunch of Looted- Stolen items from the Riots. A whole bunch of new sellers will make accounts to sell their stolen goods.
It makes me sad that some will want stock prices to reflect increased sales of stolen items as genuine profits.
God bless
06-08-2020 09:29 AM
@turquoisetulips wrote:Those comments might make sense if there were no African American adults who grew up poor but now enjoy a normal successful life with a good job , home , car etc . The trouble is there are millions of them. If there was true generalized racial discrimination going on throughout the nation then none of those people would exist as they do. Tulips
In any population, you're going to have a few who manage to make a success of themselves, but that doesn't mean EVERYONE OR EVEN MOST in the community will. Also, from what I understand of the successful blacks, they had ASSETS. Oprah Winfrey's ancestors owned property and so they had "bootstraps"
06-08-2020 10:13 AM
@goldenmeowie wrote:Thanks for those links, mam. I actually have no SPECIFIC beef with gucci but a beef in general with big businesses who hide their taxes, hire third world employees instead of americans when they don't need to, and they manipulate/bribe governments into giving them lots of subsidies(paid by the common taxpayer like you and me), shrink their taxes to $0 using "foundations" and other "legal" devices like offshoring, and then giving nothing or next to nothing back to the communities.
It's good gucci is giving to scholarship funding for the diverse low income students, but in a sense, they COULD do more. If they REALLY cared about poor blacks and not just want to chant the "black lives matter" mantra, they could fund schools with better equipment & teachers in low-income black communities. They could help fund healthcare for them. They could DIRECTLY apprentice black youths in the projects to go into fashion and make more money rather than turning to stealing or selling drugs.
Look the information I previously provided for you completely contradicts everything you have been saying about Gucci. I can only provide you with the information. Clearly you are firmly set in your beliefs and the facts don't matter.
06-08-2020 10:44 AM - edited 06-08-2020 10:47 AM
@mam98031 wrote:Look the information I previously provided for you completely contradicts everything you have been saying about Gucci. I can only provide you with the information. Clearly you are firmly set in your beliefs and the facts don't matter.
No, I don't see any contradiction. I read those linked articles. I saw how gucci donated for covid and for the scholarships and my only MINOR point is that $20,000 a year to scholarships is a DROP IN THE BUCKET to what they really COULD do for the poor black communities.
I'm actually not trying to force any beliefs on anyone. I saw the poster immible (spelling?) was a more OPEN THINKING poster than most members on the boards and I wanted to discuss his interesting thought of how stealing from a high profitable corporation by blacks was protesting. That's all!! The problem is when the other members on the board keep posting against me when I really don't want to get into an argument against THEIR FIXED BELIEFS!!
06-08-2020 01:24 PM
" The problem is when the other members on the board keep posting against me when I really don't want to get into an argument against THEIR FIXED BELIEFS!!"
Doesnt that work both ways?
06-08-2020 01:31 PM
@bonjourami wrote:" The problem is when the other members on the board keep posting against me when I really don't want to get into an argument against THEIR FIXED BELIEFS!!"
Doesnt that work both ways?
I found that statement so interesting by the other poster. From time to time we come across posters that feel that way. For some reason they think that posting on a public DISCUSSION type thread that whatever they say no one should comment on or DISCUSS. It is an interesting outlook on the nature of these threads.
06-08-2020 01:33 PM
Very true..Ive noticed that myself.
06-08-2020 10:14 PM
Actually, always thinking stealing is supposed to divined to "pulling up by the bootstraps" is LAZY thinking. goldenmeowie
That comment doesn't make any sense . Perhaps you're just unaware of what the phrase means ? Tulips
06-08-2020 10:30 PM
The blacks WERE FORCED to come here. The whites FORCED THEM HERE TO BE THEIR SLAVES!! It's easy to say "pull your bootstraps" except when you DON'T HAVE ANY. Imagine if ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS HAD NO MONEY. Your school's a mess and hardly anyone there has ever attended high school or college? Your parents have never gone to high school or college?? Where are bootstraps then?? goldenmeowie unquote
Okay I'll tell you because you asked . The bootstraps can be found by pounding the pavement for a job ,, any job . Then work hard , be an asset and work your way up . Get some job experience under your belt and if you choose to look for something else that pays better you have your previous employer put in a good word for you . My mother was born into a dirt poor family in the deep south in 1921 . She had nine siblings until two succumbed . She told me there were days in school she couldn't concentrate on her work because she was so ashamed of her tattered clothing . She never got over the psychological damage until the day she died . But ,, when she was old enough she got a job and worked very very hard at it and she succeeded . A person just has to believe in themselves enough and she did . Tulips
06-09-2020 08:31 AM
Hello everyone,
This thread is getting a bit heated. Please remember that it’s fine to disagree with others, but discussion should always remain courteous and respectful.
Thank you for your cooperation.
06-09-2020 09:41 AM
06-09-2020 09:57 AM
This will be my final entry.
Medicine/Truth never tastes good, but is intended to cure the ailment!
1) Compensation in the USA is being siphoned by the wealthiest. That's why they want Stock Shares, not paychecks. 60% of public can not afford to buy stock, pay bills, exist. They're not being fairly paid.
Employees get paychecks, pay taxes every two weeks, and pay raises of 1% to 3%. Cost of living goes up 2% to 5% every year. Who wonders why they continue to fall back? Truth?
Corp Top take shares, don't pay taxes every two weeks, have corp expenses accounts used to pay other personal bills? When they finally DO pay taxes, it's around the 6% area.
I'm a CEO/ Senior Staff and take 1 mil to 100 mil shares. I never purchased that compensation on the open market. I also get to siphon more cash out of the corp, that needs to go to employees, when the dividend is paid?
A $1 per year div pays the CEO an extra $1 million to $100 mil? Truth?
The employee gets to pay paycheck taxes every two weeks, gets to buy shares at the market, and gets a 5% match? When the employee gets to finally enjoy the spare change tossed their way, they get to pay 3 times the tax rate of the Corp Top. Truth?
Creative Destruction was invented to shed employees for the top to make Billions! It's not creative, it's destruction, though!
CO A buys CO B and fires/cost cuts 15% to 40% of employees? Can they exist on their 50 shares, after being fired to boost stock prices for the Top who own the 100's of millions of shares? Theirs a perverse incentive!
They get a "Golden Parachute" clause. It states they get to leave with millions and Millions when fired. Do you?
The incentive is to fire employees, make a huge bundle, get fired, walk away laughing. Truth?
Good luck. God Bless. We're not in this together!
06-09-2020 07:37 PM
Some of the looters are advertising and selling over on facebook.
Fortunately, the FBI and various PD detectives may be some of their first customers.
06-09-2020 10:47 PM
Careful! More truth coming!
Blacks were first sold by other Blacks of Africa. Hate to break the story. The early Dutch Traders got them from Waring African Tribes that used to invade other tribes and kill them all. They then discovered that the new Dutch Ships would pay for them with shiny objects and trinkets. They stopped killing all of them.
The first slaves were sold by the Blacks of Africa. immiscible
I'm not sure why you addressed this message to me because I never said anything to contrary . I know Africans were first rounded up by other Africans and sold into slavery .. You're not really breaking a story ,, certainly not to me at least. It took a Republican president in Abe Lincoln to declare that ''All men are created equal '' and thus began the end of slavery . What followed was the bloodiest war ever fought on American soil . As a matter of fact more people were killed in the civil war than in all the wars combined that came after with U.S involvement . I'm pretty certain of this but you can research it for clarity . White and black men by the millions fought side by side to end slavery . They risked life and limb for the cause they believed in and legions never returned home . Tulips
06-09-2020 10:58 PM
Fortunately, the FBI and various PD detectives may be some of their first customers. binderzz
Yes that is fortunate for the innocent victims . I'm relieved some will be getting their merchandise returned . We seen one young woman standing in the middle of the melee one night shouting out to some of the other looters that she had 3 gold bracelets so she wanted a few silver ones too .. Pretty nasusating . Tulips
06-10-2020 06:17 AM