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Any plans for fighting tariffs?

These tariffs are going to impact all of us either directly or indirectly, I am curious if any sellers have a plan for fighting this problem outside of just surrendering & lowering your prices to ridiculous levels just to make a sale., It's going to be a tough road ahead, No Doubt!

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@chariot_badges wrote:

@gone.c-33 wrote:

Yea, the rest of the world is wrong and only Truth Social is telling it like it is. 


The rest of the world is trying to convince us that we are wrong, and should continue to give away all our stuff, ALL - until we're broke, so China and Russia can walk in and clean up.  

Hey ... how much you got in your checking account right now?   Will you give me $1000?   

If I can prove that I need it more than you, will you give it up?

If you don't, ya know, I'm gonna call you all kinds of names:  racist, sexist, nationalist, nazi.  

If you DO, I won't even say thank you, but I will ask for more later.

 

 


Actually, the rest of the world is trying to make the few who still don’t see it that the current administration’s grasp of economics and foreign policy is inexistant and creating damages and ruining relations in a way that may take years or decades to fix.

 

America wasn’t giving away its wares, trade deficits simply mean it was importing more than it exported which is absolutely normal for a country of 340+ million in a society that decided to reward those who provide the capital instead of those who provide the labor.

 

China doesn’t care about America and wouldn’t want to touch it with a ten foot pole, let alone invade it. Meanwhile, Putin does have a boner for everything Soviet era yet seems to be one of the very few government heads Trump doesn’t want to antagonize (most likely because of certain alleged shower footage).

 

MAGAs aren’t called all those because they’re not giving away free money but because they’re sieg heiling, quoting Goebbels and backtracking on women’s rights, science and race relations like the 1930s are back in style. 

Trump never cared about America or Americans, it’s always been a popularity contest for him: after being a socialite in the late 80s/90s and a reality tv star in the 00s, becoming president was the next logical step. And he went the easiest way, which was the crowd that was easily swayed by conservative talk radio, YouTube and angry rants filmed in cars and posted on Facebook. 

And since his first time won’t be remembered in the history books as the best mostest excellent presidency of all the presidencies and still hasn’t gotten over being made fun of on hot mics by other world leaders and actually making George W. Bush look competent, he’s let an unelected foreign national gut national programs in the name of fighting corruption without making any type of analysis first or proving said corruption, started an economic war with its closest ally because of his personal dislike of its former PM, peed off veterans, brought healthcare back 75 years, has signed so many executive orders that go against the constitution everyone’s lost count and is seriously talking about seeking a third mandate like it’s no big deal.

 

Sure, maybe in hindsight calling Bush and Reagan fascists was a bit much, but as people in other countries watch on, we all start wondering how long after watching a previously extremely defeated politician come to power and pretend all he did was for “his” people and “his” people’s economic well-being and in the name of nationalism did people realize ish was about to go down in Germany…

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Tariff Definition

A tariff is a government-imposed financial charge on imports or exports designed to influence trade policies, protect local industries, or generate revenue. (https://www.buske.com/what-is/tariff)

 

With all due respect, I think we may need to wait and see how this plays out.  Tariffs aren't actually taxes, they're duties. They're fees that are imposed on the trading partner being tariffed and their goods.  We've accepted these "taxes" from the world since 1945, but not required other nations to pay them in kind.  That strikes me as extremely odd, and quite unfair.  It may have made sense 80 years ago when most of the world was in shambles after WW2 and we were thriving, but it hardly makes sense in our current state.  When we agreed to let the world parasitize us during that period, we had plenty to give.  We no longer do.

 

As to your other questions, the tariffs haven't yet been settled so the question of lowering income tax is totally premature at this point.  I think your questions will be answered once the new tariffs have been put in place.

 

On the matter of tariffs being tacked onto imports, well don't buy those imports.  I've provided a list of companies that have already agreed to bring their businesses back to the U.S. in an earlier post. Those would be some of the companies that we should focus on giving our business. 

 

As to the other nations we're currently stuck with, if they're in need anything from us, they should be paying reciprocal tariffs at least until we can get the need they're meeting met at home.  Watch how quickly we figure out a way to get that need covered once we get serious about doing so and there is no longer an incentive to have someone else meet it.

 

At the moment, it appears your cart is way in front of your horse.  No one can give you a penny in terms of a tax break until the money starts getting collected from all of the countries who have never given us a penny (while simultaneously bleeding us) or have paid so little it doesn't even cover the cost of the energy required for the import.

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Who is "she"?  Just curious.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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@kensgiftshop wrote:

@meme6253 wrote:

Those tariffs are going to raise your cost of living, I hope you realize that.


 

Will it be as bad as the last 4 years?


It will be a lot worse.

The last 4 years was global inflation, no country escaped it. Only the fed can control that type of inflation with interest rates.

This current inflation is flat out self-inflicted inflation caused directly by POTUS due to tariffs.

We went from a growing economy to the stock market plummeting with people's investments and retirement funds. There will be a lot of pain going forward with layoffs and foreclosures. I'll be fine, I worry more for other people and the younger generations.

 

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“When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.” - Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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Hi everyone,

This discussion has gotten a bit off topic. Please bring the discussion back to subject established in the original post.

Thank you.

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@gone.c-33 wrote:

MAGAs aren’t called all those because they’re not giving away free money but because they’re sieg heiling, quoting Goebbels and backtracking on women’s rights, science and race relations like the 1930s are back in style. 



Did you really just call half the country nazis? Wow.  That is utterly disgusting.

 

 

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Half the country didn’t vote for republicans and most republicans are not MAGA.

 

And for the sake of clarity, I called people who throw Hitlergrußen, quote Josef Geobbels in congress and strip people of their rights Nazis. 

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Yep, plan is: Make my big foreign inventory purchase now, so I only have to pay a 10% tariff when it gets here, then stop importing foreign made products until Trump realizes his plan isn't going to work (might not ever happen, as that usually doesn't stop him), or until the next president repeals the tariffs. 

 

I will list the items I just purchased, as well as all other foreign imports at inflated prices, and wait for the market to adjust to the tariffs, so I can hopefully make a larger profit and offset the 10% more I have to pay.

 

In the meantime, I will continue to locally source items, and sell domestically, without counting on any international sales, as countries respond to Trump's tariffs.

 

I see two potential problems with my plan. The first being the crazy inflation that is about to occur due to it taking years and years to build manufacturing capacity, and with supply chains destroyed due to tariffs, even domestically manufactured items are going to see a jump in cost. There is also going to be additional inflation as people do what I do, and charge more, in anticipation of even more inflation. Inflation is going to mean constant reinvestment of all capital, as the purchasing power of the dollar drops over time. Otherwise, I lose money just from having liquid cash. Also, as the pool of goods effectively shrinks the bottom end of existing goods will see a sharp increase in cost. So we will see inflation on the bottom end more than the top end. That needs to be accounted for as well. Not to mention the federal governmnt is creating trillions every year in new money, and with a smaller pool of goods for that money to chase, it will drive inflation even further.

 

The second issue is, as people realize things are getting fiscally worse, they will start holding their money more, and focusing on necessities. So sales are likely to slow down domestically in response to increased financially pressure on the average American. If inflation does get bad, we may see a shift on ebay towards goods that are necessary, rather then entertainment for purposes. Car parts will likely have a surge in demand, as more people fix their car, rather than replace it, but retro video games are likely to tank.

 

We live in interesting times. 

 

Oh, and one real fun related fact, the tariffs and DOGE efforts probably wont be enough to come close to balancing the budget, which is why the government keeps creating more money. Due to compounding interest on the national debt, the government was going to reach an unsustainable breaking point in about 10-15 years. We may see a domino effect due to the tariffs, and we could see the financial collapse of the US well within 10 years. On the other hand, by gaining tariff money, the government may get more than they lose from the economic slowdown that the tariffs will cause, and won't be falling so far behind on the national debt. Also, the inflation that will occur is going to effectively devalue the existing debt, which is good for the federal government, just bad for the citizens.

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I totally agree with what you said.  

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@tarotfindsandmore wrote:

Tariffs aren't actually taxes, they're duties.


"I'm not a fan of taxes... but tariffs are simply a tax,"  - Rand Paul

 

"JPMorgan now predicts a 60% chance the U.S. will sink into recession this year, and called the impact of the proposed tariffs “the largest U.S. tax hike since 1968.”

 

Fed Chair Jerome Powell says Trump tariffs are ‘likely to raise inflation’—and the economic hit will... 

“When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.” - Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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@tarotfindsandmore wrote:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/MAGA-movement

 

https://news.vanderbilt.edu/2025/02/24/majority-of-republicans-nationally-identify-as-maga-for-first...

 

I'm sure you realize there are plenty of independents who identify as MAGA as well

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/05/07/opinion/trump-speaker-libertarian-party/

 

and even a few democrats

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rise-maga-democrat-064900403.html

 

Again, wow.  Gotta love that leftist tolerance.


All of those sources are from before Trump’s second term except the Vanderbilt study which questioned ONE THOUSAND AND THIRTY SEVEN people.

 

And once again for the sake of clarity, can you point to the lack of tolerance? Is it calling people who quote Nazis Nazis you’re having an issue with? Or calling people who make Nazi salutes Nazis? 

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