04-04-2025 01:28 PM
These tariffs are going to impact all of us either directly or indirectly, I am curious if any sellers have a plan for fighting this problem outside of just surrendering & lowering your prices to ridiculous levels just to make a sale., It's going to be a tough road ahead, No Doubt!
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04-05-2025 10:16 AM
Yep, and Trump was a democrat. That's kinda the point. The left doesn't actually care about this issue at all. It's just another means of trying to undermine their number one enemy. Folks on the left who actually believed in it (raises hand!) still believe in it, even if they no longer believe in the party.
04-05-2025 10:42 AM
"The same thing can be said of Canada. For some strange reason we allow them to manufacture automobile parts for us. Why are we doing that? I have no idea. It has something to do with that goofy NAFTA thing but we're not saving any money by having a labor force that gets paid more than the American labor force create parts for us. ( those parts seem to be exempt for some reason) so that needs to stop.
And they already had huge tariffs on any dairy or lumber products that America produces. And for some reason we except lumber and dairy from them with no tariff. NOW there is a tariff on those products. We support their economy they don't support ours. So for all their bluster they are the ones that are gonna be harmed the most. There is not a single thing that Canada produces that we don't produce here in the United States. We are supporting them".
I won't get into too many specifics but your comprehension of the facts regarding Canada seem to be very limited (actually your world view facts are extremely limited as well and the correct spelling of Chine is China)
Unfortunately your very wrong, I will just touch on Canadian energy the USA uses to function on a daily basis... 62% of oil the US imports is Canadian crude. The US oil refineries are set-up to process Canadian heavy crude. The light crude the US produces cannot be used as the refineries cannot process it. That is why the US exports it.
The province of Quebec supplies over 30 million American homes and businesses with hydro power and 60% of aluminum the USA needs and imports is from Quebec.
This is only a small example of what the US needs to import from Canada.
Buckle up if Canada decides to limit or cut off energy to the US.....
04-05-2025 10:58 AM
@cardxcraft wrote:
The globalists own the news agencies, which in turn are broadcasting doom and gloom because they're about lose their golden goose. Turn in it off and focus on opportunites and improvement.
Just a gentle reminder that you are amongst educated and even some sophisticated people here.
Please try to be respectful.
04-05-2025 11:32 AM - edited 04-05-2025 11:37 AM
@chariot_badges wrote:
This is a problem 50 years in the making -- it's gonna take a few weeks to get it straightened out.
1 day is up.
A few weeks is up.
Check back in a few months and you'll be saying "Give it a few years".
04-05-2025 11:41 AM
@cardxcraft wrote:What matters is Trump's tariff plans, not the experts and talking heads, as you put it. Trump's admin is not saying, we think, or this may or may not happen. Trump has been emphatic with his tariff goals, which he should be, as they're working as intended.
Tariffs are a tool, in this case, primarily being used to prevent the practice of domestic companies manufacturing their products in cheap, overseas markets and selling back to the domestic market (offshoring), incentivizing reshoring and foreign corps building in USA, and as a bargaining tool with foreign nations.
1. American (USA) companies are reshoring and will continue to do so as they have no choice, rightfully so.
2. Foreign companies that want to do business here in USA must build here, hard stop.
3. Trillions of dollars have, are and will be invested here, with millions of good paying, full-time jobs.
4. The increased wages and infrastructure investment will lead to a better quality of life and higher standing of living, thereby offsetting increase costs (normalizing), in a reciprocating, cyclic manner.
5. Jobs report for last month: 228,000 new jobs. The lost government jobs were intentional: an economy built on government jobs is a failing economy, lacking innovation but rife with waste and bureaucracy.
6. It's working!!! Be optimistic, we have trillions of dollars of new investments with tons of new jobs in $25-$45/hr range. The increased prosperity will lead to more community investments and small business openings, which in turn furthers prosperity. There's no downside, for us.
The globalists own the news agencies, which in turn are broadcasting doom and gloom because they're about lose their golden goose. Turn in it off and focus on opportunites and improvement.
Yea, the rest of the world is wrong and only Truth Social is telling it like it is.
04-05-2025 11:47 AM
@inhawaii wrote:
@chariot_badges wrote:This is a problem 50 years in the making -- it's gonna take a few weeks to get it straightened out.1 day is up.
A few weeks is up.
Check back in a few months and you'll be saying "Give it a few years".
It was already "about six months ... maybe a year" (last night):
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04-05-2025 01:12 PM
@gone.c-33 wrote:Yea, the rest of the world is wrong and only Truth Social is telling it like it is.
The rest of the world is trying to convince us that we are wrong, and should continue to give away all our stuff, ALL - until we're broke, so China and Russia can walk in and clean up.
Hey ... how much you got in your checking account right now? Will you give me $1000?
If I can prove that I need it more than you, will you give it up?
If you don't, ya know, I'm gonna call you all kinds of names: racist, sexist, nationalist, nazi.
If you DO, I won't even say thank you, but I will ask for more later.
04-05-2025 01:42 PM
Will you pledge to let us know if you decide not to post here anymore, so we'd know your absence isn't due to you losing your ability to get those life-sustaining medications you mentioned? Whether or not you care about commie libtards like me, I do about you, and I'm scared for you.
04-05-2025 02:04 PM
04-05-2025 02:11 PM
I think most of the conversations about tariffs have been respectful which is nice for a change. (not including any doomers)
Everything is going to be ok.
04-05-2025 02:38 PM - edited 04-05-2025 03:18 PM
You really don't understand the value of foreign policy and nat'l security. It's amazing that one man could change the face of the US in less than 3 mos. Trump projects everybody is out to rip us off which stems from his own ambitions to rip everyone off. One of Trump's former professors at Wharton College, Prof. Kelley, said that Donald was "the dumbest gd student I ever had."
The other day what Obama stated at Hamilton college is so true :
“People tend to think, eh, democracy, rule of law, an independent judiciary, freedom of the press—that’s all abstract stuff because it’s not affecting the price of eggs,” Obama said. “Well, you know what? It’s about to affect the price of eggs.”
This is 1930's Germany repeating. Our allies are now becoming adversaries. and vice -versa, and our global dominance is gone forever. America became dominant after world war 2 because we were 50% of the global GDP, now it's only about 26%. The global economy will continue to flourish as they create new trading partners.
He has left the door wide open so "China and Russia can walk in and clean up."
The real issue is not spending, it is the tax cuts for the rich and corporations since the 80's. But don't worry as this recession nears the GOP are hard at work on the next tax cuts for the rich...
Trump’s ‘masochistic’ tariffs will cost $300,000 per family of four
Trump’s tariffs the ‘biggest policy mistake in 95 years’
04-05-2025 02:50 PM
@gurlcat wrote:Will you pledge to let us know if you decide not to post here anymore, so we'd know your absence isn't due to you losing your ability to get those life-sustaining medications you mentioned? Whether or not you care about commie libtards like me, I do about you, and I'm scared for you.
Ahhhh, I appreciate that @gurlcat.
There isn't much in the way of empathy in the world these days.
We disagree - but we want the same things, I think.
Don't be scared for me. I've lived my life, and it was a wonderful life.
I have been places and done things that would curl your hair, if you believed me. You probably wouldn't.
I've loved, and been loved. I have been all over the world, and had many adventures. I have faced death ... and worse. I wouldn't trade a minute of my past 72 years for anything.
And, lets be real here ... I don't have a lot left. What do I have to lose?
I'm just coasting to the checkered flag.
I have stockpiled six months of meds ... with some difficulty (the doctors and pharmacists don't like that, so ya gotta have some skills there).
If some government mug tells me to lean up against that wall so they can shoot me ... I won't GAF. I might ask him for his best marksman - no need to suffer. Pain hurts. I have already spent my equity. It can't be taken away.
It's you kids I worry about. I am glad I'm old, I won't have to put up with what you are going to have to put up with. I worry for YOUR future because you have more of it than I do.
Enjoy every minute.
The only regrets I have is when I did NOT 'go for it'. The chances I didn't take. The job I didn't accept, the girl that I was too shy to ask out. It's the misses haunt me.
Grab life by both hands and shake it, wring it out ... till somebody says 'sit down'.
04-05-2025 02:53 PM
@chevymontecarlo88 wrote:I think most of the conversations about tariffs have been respectful which is nice for a change. (not including any doomers)
Everything is going to be ok.
We need to stick together.
I heard a talking head say something this morning that I really agree with.
She said something like, "The people are the foot soldiers in an economic war."
She's right.
Even those of us who disagree with the Commander in Chief, have to hope he's right and that things work out ok.
04-05-2025 03:15 PM
@tarotfindsandmore wrote:
You did raise one other interesting point btw. The left did not roll back Trump's previous tariffs. Why do you think that is? If they were the nightmare that the leftist kooks are decrying them to be, why weren't those tariffs removed when the left attempted to demolish every other policy enacted by OrangeManBad? Not a word was spoken about them.
Well, like I said, its a tax. Brings in more revenue right? Even crazy people understand that you can't keep writing checks when you got no money in the account. You can't borrow forever. At some point, no one wants your checks.
That revenue was just delaying the inevitable. Even democrats accepted the revenue with glee.
Question: What proposal have they made to lower our taxes, now that tariffs are implemented? Trump said that tariffs would eliminate income taxes. Yeah? For who? I have not heard how my quarterly taxes are now going to be lower. Did I miss that part? Where is all that new tax revenue going? Where is the legislation directing the spending of those funds? Because we are talking about many billions of dollars. If we have to pay these tariffs tacked onto the imports, why am I still paying the same taxes? Where is the benefits he campaigned on?
04-05-2025 03:26 PM
Committing to build/move isn't the same as doing it. It's politics, these corporations have no real desire to invest all that money, when the next administration could change things. Even this one could change it's mind tomorrow, as is often the case. Business does not work like that.
You and others keep saying high wages. Compared to what? Are people that silly to think all jobs coming back to the USA will pay 30-40 bucks an hour? Lol. They left when wages were 10-15 an hours and the labor was too expensive for them THEN. How many new retail or factory jobs are starting off that high? They do not unless the position requires a degree or high skills (and the person HAS those skills already).
And all of his plan, will actually take 10-30 years for it to be done. Yes, at least a decade. Businesses only need to hold out for 3.5 years at most. Next administration will have a different plan. And I suspect at the next midterm, when things have been sour, it will not be republicans that will hold majority anymore.
While I do agree we need changes, and something MUST change, this was the wrong way to do it. It's like having a disagreement with your friends and enemies alike, and deciding to drop a nuke on them to get your way. Bigly indeed. But it's us that suffers because of it...
There is a stark difference from some, slight pain and the equivalent of being put in a body cast.