Ever see a PCGS holder like this? #295379793235

[4pawsup*]

This seller has coins with PCGS & NGC holders i have not seen have you?

[larrys.basement · Accepted solution]

Picture or link?

[4pawsup*]

click the link below.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295379793235

[4pawsup*]

This the link 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295379793235

[rustydalmatian]

It appears, from the description, he's only selling the label.  Strange.

[4pawsup*]

@rustydalmatian Here look at this one he is trying to sell these AS GRADED coins

look at this number 295379826279 check it out and report it is fraud

[ajs_coins_and_alchemy]

I've seen something like this before. It's most likely that individual (or someone) cracked open the slab and put the coin in a cap for their own collection purposes and now are saying "hey, this coin was graded this"

Ive seen collectors do this with type set albums or like barber collections where they may crack the slab and pull a rather lower graded coin (i.e. F12) out and stick it in the album and keep the label for "proof" of grade.

Hokey, yes. Directly against ebay policy, actually i'm not 100% sure. Almost be like selling a broken slabbed coin (including the original broken slab)... Although there is no proof I do believe those coins earned those grades but were cracked out for personal collecting. (Stupid to do if you ask me). Shouldnt be done in any case regardless of policy forbidding or not.

Lastly, you reported the seller. Thats all you can do. I would just drop it. Don't buy from them and move on. If they are able to fool someone, then honestly I'd blame the buyer about as much as I blame the seller. 

[ajs_coins_and_alchemy]

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@ajs_coins_and_alchemy wrote:

I've seen something like this before. It's most likely that individual (or someone) cracked open the slab and put the coin in a cap for their own collection purposes and now are saying "hey, this coin was graded this"

Ive seen collectors do this with type set albums or like barber collections where they may crack the slab and pull a rather lower graded coin (i.e. F12) out and stick it in the album and keep the label for "proof" of grade.

Hokey, yes. Directly against ebay policy, actually i'm not 100% sure. Almost be like selling a broken slabbed coin (including the original broken slab)... Although there is no proof I do believe those coins earned those grades but were cracked out for personal collecting. (Stupid to do if you ask me). Shouldnt be done in any case regardless of policy forbidding or not.

Lastly, you reported the seller. Thats all you can do. I would just drop it. Don't buy from them and move on. If they are able to fool someone, then honestly I'd blame the buyer about as much as I blame the seller. 

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Here is where I addressed this @4pawsup* 

[4pawsup*]

Hello, Well said and i agree with you as well. Did not mean to pester you.All the best. John

[ajs_coins_and_alchemy]

No pester, didn't know you missed the reply.

[worldcoinauctions]

LOL, that is funny! To me that would be a raw coin, probably to ebay too. Once it is not sealed in the slab it is not the certified coin any longer. Considering which coins they are doing that with, well 1 ounce of silver is what they are.

[*smedley*]

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@4pawsup* wrote:

This seller has coins with PCGS & NGC holders i have not seen have you?

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mostly because they are not PCGS & NGC holders... just the labels from cracked slabs...

definitely a seller to stay far away from...

[clarkbaker]

That is seriously scary.. and basically it isn't a graded coin. No holder... other than his hand.. stay away.

[pgh_pen]

It is a violation of eBay's numeric grade policy.  Numeric grades may not be assigned to raw coins.  These coins are not in approved TPG holders, thus are considered raw.