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USPS POSTAGE ADJUSTMENTS

I received two notices today that eBay charged me for postage adjustment cost. I was charged $1.22 and $1.20 for these adjustments.

 

However concerning these two items, both were below 4 oz. which means the postage cost is automatically set by eBay shipping program depending on the zone they are mailed to. The difference between the zones for under 4 oz is pennys from zone 1 to 8.

 

These adjustments are totally wrong. I paid the correct postage for both of these items.

 

What the hell is going on ?

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It’s not Ebay. It’s the usps and the new postage verification system. You’ll have to call the PO about this.
Patricia
eBay member for 25 years
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@texxcomm wrote:

 

 

These adjustments are totally wrong. I paid the correct postage for both of these items.

 

What the hell is going on ?


Given those adjustment amounts, the USPS must think that your packages weighed 9-12 ounces instead of under 4 ounces.   You can appeal the decision if you want.

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Were the packages 3/4” thick OR rigid? If not they’re cracking down on that. Must be 3/4” thick or rigid to qualify as a package.
Patricia
eBay member for 25 years
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Obtain a zone chart from USPS:

 

https://postcalc.usps.com/domesticzonechart

 

Write down the package information on some paper or in a document on your computer.

 

Origin Zip

Destination Zip

Weight

Dimensions

Zone

Price you paid for labels, price USPS charged you, the total price of the two.

 

Take a look at USPS pricing guides:

 

https://pe.usps.com/cpim/ftp/manuals/dmm300/notice123.pdf

 

Consult USPS size standards on USPS's site or use a 3rd party site like this to get a general idea:

 

https://www.nerdylorrin.net/jerry/postages/

 

Retracing the steps yourself will be a learning experience.

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I just was charged an additional $5.30.  I shipped a small flat rate box and they said I shipped a medium.  I even took it to the post office and got a receipt, so not sure how they say I used a different box.  This is a joke!

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Does this acceptance receipt show the package details such as this example:

 

https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/us-post-office-phoenix-29?select=igOkSNFgSXmBkVq2cXIcLQ

 

If so, then you may have proof of what you shipped verses what they claim you shipped.

 

A lot of post offices will not provide such acceptance receipts for prepaid dropped off packages. One of the ideas behind discounted online labels is that these are suppose to lower labor costs for USPS. The only intereaction with the USPS clerk that USPS expects is that you drop off the prepaid packages and leave. The postal clerk will scan the packages at the time he receives them from you or later. The largest post office in this areas has a rear service door where you can drop packages off in bulk with no clerk in attendence since everything is under video survelliance from the time you drive onto their property. The packages are later scanned. I routinely drop packages off at the service door at my local one clerk post office and he / she scans them when they do not have customers at the front counter.

 

Wanting a dropoff receipt, waiting for the items to be scanned with a hand held scanner, asking the clerk to add additional postage to the package because you messed up the label and other interactions go beyond what these discounted labels were intended for. The scanned tracking number is suppose to act as your receipt.

 

If they don't fix the issue then go up another level within their management. If you get nowhere file a chargeback with your credit card or dispute with your bank for unpurchased services of $5.30. I've had to do that with eBay several times when they thought they had the right to randomly add Gallery Plus fees to me invoice even though I never use Gallery Plus and all my listings use the same base template without Gallery Plus enabled. Apparently they finally got the message!

 

Your package may have run into a improperly trained postal employee on its journey. Every organization has these. A few years back a postal employee said I owed Priority Mail rates for items sent Media Mail. She was wrong and was not following postal regulations. I took care of it quickly and got it fixed and went on to other things.

 

 

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There is a USPS screwup working with some incorrect SFRB barcodes on boxes, but not exactly your situation.

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Shipping-Returns/USPS-Cost-Adjustment-is-out-of-control/m-p/29626907#M...


What is the human readable barcode number on your SFRBs?

PS00011000003 (correct) or PS00010000022 (incorrect 1096L number)

 

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Sounds like this is the same issue as mine, thanks.
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It's only the same issue as yours if the Small Flat Rate box you used had a Medium Flat Rate Box barcode mistakenly printed on it, and nobody has demonstrated that yet.

Just a theory at this point until someone shows proof - an image of a SFRB with a MFRB barcode on it like the SFRB with 1096L barcode image in that referenced thread. At this point it's an as of yet unphotographed Bigfoot - a think of legend.

Unless somebody shows such a barcode, it is more likely that there is a USPS software bug working.

Do you have another SFRB from the same batch? If so, what is the barcode number on it?
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@anthology-of-treasures wrote:

One of the ideas behind discounted online labels is that these are suppose to lower labor costs for USPS. The only interaction with the USPS clerk that USPS expects is that you drop off the prepaid packages and leave. The postal clerk will scan the packages at the time he receives them from you or later.


There is no such expectation. USPS expects each package to be scanned at the time it is presented for Acceptance. Discounted on-line labels (when or where they are discounted; for some rates you pay full price now anyway) are a timesaving convenience for the buyer, but that does not mean that they cannot present the package over the counter for Acceptance, with or without a receipt.

 

The fact that the package is prepaid does not mean that the customer is not entitled to full service like anyone else; it simply reduces the interaction time, since there is no payment to be made, to about the shortest possible duration, a matter of seconds between walking up to the counter and walking away again. "Pre-Paid Mailpiece Acceptance" is a standard front desk transaction on the POS terminal, the left-most icon on the second row of the main screen.

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Thank you for this information.  I prefer a receipt when I have time to wait in line because it proves that I dropped it off. Without it, I can only prove that I printed a label.   The woman at the post office closest to me refused to do it. It would have taken her maybe 45 seconds but she refused.  I told her another location does it and she told me to go there. Are they allowed to just refuse to give you a receipt? 

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@swimbikerunrepeat wrote:

Thank you for this information.  I prefer a receipt when I have time to wait in line because it proves that I dropped it off. Without it, I can only prove that I printed a label.   The woman at the post office closest to me refused to do it. It would have taken her maybe 45 seconds but she refused.  I told her another location does it and she told me to go there. Are they allowed to just refuse to give you a receipt? 


Of course not; the receipt is for your package, not your payment, which is why the receipt carries extensive details on its weight, destination, and date and time of Acceptance, but nothing about price, since that transaction occurred previously. The fact that no money changes hands is irrelevant; Package Acceptance is the second half of a transaction that was begun when you purchased the label on-line.

 

Even the hand-held scanner has an accompanying hand-held printer (presumably communicating via Bluetooth) that can generate receipts as needed.

 

The clerk was simply wrong. The Point of Sale terminal handles Pre-Paid Mailpiece Acceptance like any other transaction, generates receipts if desired, and the fact that no money changes hands during that transaction doesn't matter.

 

P.S. Your time estimate of 45 seconds for one package acceptance was generous. Smiley Happy I have a receipt on my desk here showing six Acceptances in one visit (yes, I did not have a SCAN sheet), and the timestamps for each package are, on average, eight seconds apart.

 

In addition, at the same time that the packages were going through Acceptance, we were also having a brief but in-depth conversation about summer vacation plans and the dismal state of Chicago Cubs pitching, although neither of those topics is shown on the receipt.

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You have to call and actually speak to someone. If you see prompts to leave message with proof do not do this. I was overcharged $40+ for 2 items and left 6 messages with no call back at all. Once I spoke to the guy I was refunded my money in 2 days time.

 

 

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>>You have to call and actually speak to someone.

For eBay created labels you are supposed to submit an online appeal via the eBay label management page
https://www.ebay.com/ship/lmng

or if that doesn't work, via email or a call to USPS

"Who do I contact with questions?
If you have questions about your notice or Automated Package Verification, please email verifypostagehelp@usps.gov. For any questions about your account, please contact your PC Postage provider directly."
https://www.usps.com/business/verify-postage.htm

Specific details here: https://postalpro.usps.com/node/4111
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