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IF your an Ebayer, and you quote a shipping cost  REMEMBER...the REAL shipping cost will be on the label on the box that goes to the buyer.

 If there is one thing that just infuriates me as a buyer it's the Ebayer who quotes...let's say $14.00 shipping. Then when you receive the purchase it has $ 9.80 on the shipping cost label.  That's WRONG...making money off shipping is plain WRONG. You make money off the item your selling, don't be sneaky, cute and try and pull one over on a buyer by making an extra $3, 4 five or even $10 bucks off the ship cost quoted w/ your item vs actual shipping cost. 

 Heck USPS boxes are free, packaging and time are a part of the shipping cost, not a part of making profit.

 I hope Ebay muckety mucks start putting an end to this practice, and those who buy start responding to this chicken s$^t nonsense with a negative feedback if seller won't refund the difference ....

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Smart sellers use stealth shipping. They choose to not have the postage cost displayed on the label.

 Shipping costs are more than just postage. There are many things to consider when calculating shipping costs.  Sellers are allowed to charge for packing materials, their time spent on preparing the item for listing, cost of gas to take items to the post office, etc.  handling fees are also allowed.

 If you think the shipping cost shown on a listing is too high, you will find that the BACK button works just fine.

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 Kathy,

 

I am an eBayer.  I have been for 19+ years.   (this is a posting ID)  I am both seller and buyer.

 

This is always the eternal question for buyers.   You want to pay exact postage.   If I quote $14.00 and it cost $9.80 you expect a refund.   Okay.  What if I quote $14.00 and it actually cost $18.00?  Are you willing to pay an additional $4.00 for shipping?    Most buyers say "tough luck, you quote $14 and that's all I am paying".   

 

Fair is fair,  what's good for the goose is good for the gander.   If you want a refund for 'overcharging' then you should pay more for 'undercharging'. 

 

 

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@chinohighcowboys1963 wrote:

 

 If you think the shipping cost shown on a listing is too high, you will find that the BACK button works just fine.


Smart sellers simply list their items as priority mail shipping, then add handling & packing costs.

Seller then downgrades shipping to a cheaper &slower service, parcel select, first class, or media mail& pockets the overcharge.

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Heck USPS boxes are free, packaging and time are a part of the shipping cost, not a part of making profit.
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Not everything fits in USPS free boxes, sellers need to buy PADDING for your item, and they deserve something for the time effort and energy to pack.

It's called shipping AND handing.

You start dropping negs for sellers who charge shipping and handling, your going to find a lot of sellers unwilling to do business with you.
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@ed8108 wrote:

@chinohighcowboys1963 wrote:

 

 If you think the shipping cost shown on a listing is too high, you will find that the BACK button works just fine.


Smart sellers simply list their items as priority mail shipping, then add handling & packing costs.

Seller then downgrades shipping to a cheaper &slower service, parcel select, first class, or media mail& pockets the overcharge.


No. Stupid sellers do that. Smart sellers use the stealth option to hide postage cost.

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Most buyers have absolutely no idea of the cost involved in dispatching and shipping an item, you say heck even USPS boxes are free, well the ink to print your label is not free, the paper it's printed on is not free, the tape that secures it is not free, the gas to run it to the PO office is not free, and more importantly my time is not free, if you are quoted a cost and you are happy with it why complain after ? And also do not forget 10% E bay fees + 2.9% + .30c Paypal fees, a lot more to consider than you think.

And no postage prices are easily removed from any label, your post is exactly why it is removed, no understanding of actual costs involved.

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@chinohighcowboys1963 wrote:

 

 If you think the shipping cost shown on a listing is too high, you will find that the BACK button works just fine.


Smart sellers simply list their items as priority mail shipping, then add handling & packing costs.

Seller then downgrades shipping to a cheaper &slower service, parcel select, first class, or media mail & pockets the overcharge.

 

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Again Ed, only stupid seller do that. Smart ones use stealth.
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@ed8108 wrote:

@chinohighcowboys1963 wrote:

 

 If you think the shipping cost shown on a listing is too high, you will find that the BACK button works just fine.


Smart sellers simply list their items as priority mail shipping, then add handling & packing costs.

Seller then downgrades shipping to a cheaper &slower service, parcel select, first class, or media mail & pockets the overcharge.

 


Smart sellers do not downgrade the shippingservicestuck_out_tongue_winking_eye

 

The may list at "retail", and ship with "online" savings, but no "smart seller" downgrades the service offered in the listing.

 

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  • "let's say $14.00 shipping. Then when you receive the purchase it has $ 9.80 on the shipping cost label."  $14.00 shipping less a 10% eBay FVF on the shipping, less a $2.9% PayPal commission, less a $.30 PayPal transaction fee leaves $11.89. If the funds are international then PayPal will get 4.4% instead of 2.9%, which would leave $11.68.
  • "Heck USPS boxes are free." Ordering them and picking them up are not free - it involves labor and use of a vehicle, both of which cost money. USPS only provides a limited range of box sizes and does not provide boxes for 1st Class Mail, Parcel Select, or Media Mail. In many cases USPS's boxes are the wrong size, thus the seller will need to purchase them or try to obtain used boxes from a store or other location. Even a small 6" x 6" x 4" box might run you $.25 each in bulk. Perhaps you should checkout the price of some boxes. Digging through a store's box dumpster for "free boxes" involves labor and use of a vehicle, both of which are not free. Then we have the cost of packaging supplies. You can use newspapers, assuming you can secure a supply of newspapers from other sources as your own daily newspaper is simply not going to go that far. To secure a larger supply of newspaper you might ask family and friends to save them for you or pay a local group such as Boy Scouts to save them for you - once again we have labor and the use of vehicle which ar enot free). Have you checked the cost of packaging peanuts that go inside the boxes lately? Obviously no! How about the cost of tape? Did you check the cost of producing shipping labels - consumables such as printer toner cartridges, paper, adhesive labels? How about the cost of packaging tools such as tape guns, tape dispensers, scissors, carton knives, scales, printers, etc... How about the cost of metal shelving units to store these packaging materials as well as inventory on?
  • Storing shipping supplies not free - every square foot of storage has a fixed cost per month  - you know, little things like rent, a lease payment, a mortgage payment, various types of insurance, property taxes, maintenance, and a host of other expenses. Where might we find this mythical land you speak of where such things are free?
  • "packaging and time are a part of the shipping cost, not a part of making profit." What are you complaining about then? $11.93 less $9.80 = $2.13 for the seller to pack your item, print and apply a shipping label, take it to USPS, and cover a whole other set of fixed costs the seller has each month associated with just shipping. Where exactly is the profit? I suggest you take a package to a packaging service offered at some retail office supply outlets - they definately are not going to charge you $2.13.
  •  You make money off the item your selling, don't be sneaky, cute and try and pull one over on a buyer by making an extra $3, 4 five or even $10 bucks off the ship cost quoted w/ your item vs actual shipping cost. You are way out of touch with reality on this matter. You really need to obtain some practical experience in running your own business or at least take a cost accounting course where you can learn what what costs are exactly involved in running a business or producing a single product. Consider the diagram below that I made as a response to eBay sending out SPAM message to sellers telling them that they should lower their item prices by 5% because ebay was so concerned about lowering prices for buyers. You complain about the twigs in some seller's eyes (who trying to make a living) and ignore the forests in the eyes of eBay managment.

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If saving money is a goal, then always sort for total price.  That way you get the best deal without wasting time thinking about shipping costs.

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@kathym9342 wrote:

 

 Heck USPS boxes are free, packaging and time are a part of the shipping cost, not a part of making profit.

Packaging and time are part of the shipping cost?

 

That's not how it works.  I can't walk into the post office and just hand them an item and have them wrap it up for me with all the proper materials for free.   The SELL packing materials at a premium.   

 

While some places, like UPS, will do that, there is a hefty charge associated with it.  It's more cost effective for me to carry the supplies myself, but they still cost money.

 

The charge you pay is for shipping.  Shipping isn't just postage.  It's the cost of getting the item to you safely.  

 

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@kathym9342 wrote:

IF your an Ebayer, and you quote a shipping cost  REMEMBER...the REAL shipping cost will be on the label on the box that goes to the buyer.


Sellers who print their own Shipping labels on-line have the option of whether to show the postage paid on the label. The default setting is Off.

 


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If there is one thing that just infuriates me as a buyer it's the Ebayer who quotes...let's say $14.00 shipping. Then when you receive the purchase it has $ 9.80 on the shipping cost label.  That's WRONG...making money off shipping is plain WRONG.


You're confusing Shipping cost with postage cost. The price paid for postage ($9.80 in your example) is not the seller's only expense.

 


@kathym9342 wrote:

Heck USPS boxes are free, packaging and time are a part of the shipping cost, not a part of making profit.


Right, packaging and time are a part of the Shipping cost; they are not part of the postage cost.

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I forgot to add that Priority Mail comes with $50 or $100 free insurance. However, if the seller is going to insure the package for more than the free amount they don't get credit for that free insurance - they have to buy insurance as if they hadn't gotten any free. First Class, Media Mail, & Parcel Select don't include any free insurance.

 

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