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Request to Void USPS shipping label REJECTED even though never used

I purchased a USPS priority mail shipping label that cost $60.  At the post office I asked if there was a cheaper way to send; lady said absolutely and had me buy a flat rate box for $12.  I tore up original $60 label, went straight home and voided it on ebay.  A couple days go by and USPS now says "Void Rejected" on shipping page so I was not given a refund.  I NEVER shipped the package using that much too expensive first label.  I tore it up so it was never used.  USPS reports a package went out with that first label and then disappeared or something.  Check out the tracking data below for both numbers.  What the heck is going on here?   Am I really screwed out of $60 by the USPS?   Who do I even contact to get this sorted out if USPS already rejected my void request?  Why would they reject it in the first place?  It shouldn't be this hard to void a mistakenly purchased label that was never used.  Very frustrating.

 

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$12 flat rate label that I used$12 flat rate label that I usedLabel I tore up and voided on ebayLabel I tore up and voided on ebay

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Request to Void USPS shipping label REJECTED even though never used

It looks like the clerk scanned your first label into the system before you opted to ship flat rate and tore the first label up.

That scan would be an acceptance scan, and I assume the following ones are just automatic scans (not actual physical scans) and as far as USPS is concerned, the package is in a container in transit.

If it was scanned, the void would be rejected.

You need to go back to the PO and try to get the clerk and/or Postmaster to fix it somehow.


On a side note I'm puzzled about you "buying a flat rate box" - USPS Flat Rate boxes are free. Or did you just mean you obtained a free medium flat rate box at the PO and bought a $12 label for it online at home?

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Request to Void USPS shipping label REJECTED even though never used

It looks like the clerk scanned your first label into the system before you opted to ship flat rate and tore the first label up.

That scan would be an acceptance scan, and I assume the following ones are just automatic scans (not actual physical scans) and as far as USPS is concerned, the package is in a container in transit.

If it was scanned, the void would be rejected.

You need to go back to the PO and try to get the clerk and/or Postmaster to fix it somehow.


On a side note I'm puzzled about you "buying a flat rate box" - USPS Flat Rate boxes are free. Or did you just mean you obtained a free medium flat rate box at the PO and bought a $12 label for it online at home?
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@berserkerplanet wrote:

You need to go back to the PO and try to get the clerk and/or Postmaster to fix it somehow.

OP, I would follow this advise.  The postal clerk made a mistake, but it may be too late to do anything about it.   Still, it wouldn't hurt to ask.

 

The other option you can follow is to file a lost package claim.  It is a long process.  But, the postage fees associated with a lost package are refundable.

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Request to Void USPS shipping label REJECTED even though never used

>>The other option you can follow is to file a lost package claim. It is a long process. But, the postage fees
>>associated with a lost package are refundable.

Now that is the clever observation of the day !

The pkg doesn't exist, so it is by definition lost. If USPS balks and says there is/was no pkg, then the question becomes why did they scan the label. Delicious. USPS is logically hosed if it comes to that.

Hopefully the Postmaster can do something (ideally ability to override or add info to the rejected void request or contact a human who can do so, but that would be too easy and therefore doubtful USPS systems/protocols permit it.)

Curious to see @a_c_green input on the details & meanings (or lack thereof) of those phantom? USPS scans.
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@berserkerplanet wrote:
Curious to see @a_c_green input on the details & meanings (or lack thereof) of those phantom? USPS scans.

Well, there's really only one later scan that genuinely occurred, a container scan of the outbound accumulation at the end of the day, when the truck came by to pick up the day's load. That occurred at 6:09 p.m. on July 20th.

 

Every package receiving an Acceptance scan on the 20th (i.e. since the last outbound container went out, probably on the previous night) is assumed to be in that container, so the container scan is applied to the tracking history of every package handled that day.

 

Here's where things got sticky: the OP plonked the package on the Front Desk, the clerk moved it to the scale and scanned it in, and then the OP asked about alternate Shipping choices. The clerk did not cancel the Acceptance scan, either because it was not an option (I'm not sure; I'll ask later), or because no one thought it was necessary, since no money had changed hands in that moment.

 

When presented with a Pre-Paid Mailpiece, there's not much for a clerk to do besides select the proper icon on their terminal and then zap the package, so that would have happened immediately, probably before the OP even got his question out. After that, the package is assumed to still be in USPS custody, so it is also assumed to have gone out at 6:09 p.m., and the later "In Transit" filler entry is in the record because it hasn't been seen anywhere else yet.

 

I think this is going to take some diplomacy and human intervention to sort out, beginning with a trip back to the post office with tracking numbers and receipts in hand. The OP needs to at least prove that the $60 label to be voided is from the same package that went out with Flat Rate postage later on. I don't know if a Flat Rate receipt logs the package weight (it should, since there's an upper limit), but the $60 label should have a similar weight, and (perhaps more importantly) both were going to exactly the same address.

 

Any and all paperwork that the OP can generate with details on each shipment will help, but at the end of the day, it's going to come down to whether the postmaster is willing to help sort out the mess. I would at least start with him, as a first step. I don't think calling the 800 USPS Help line is going to be a solution here. Good luck.

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Request to Void USPS shipping label REJECTED even though never used

It was scanned accepted. It was too late to tear up the label and void it. 

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$60.00 was the best option you had at home?

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I appreciate all the help and advice.  To fill you in more exactly on what happened I actually went up to the helper on the side who isn't in a window and who helps you if you're just there to ship quickly and get a receipt.  I showed her my package and asked if there was a cheaper method.  She was the one who told me without a doubt to send flat rate.  I can't believe I didn't think of that to begin with but I then asked how do I make sure this current label is voided and get my refund.  She said you do that online via ebay's shipping.  I even then asked so I rip this up and void online and we're good to go.  Lady answers yes.  Package was never given to clerk to send to the back or anything like that.  I'm guessing she must of scanned it on accident or something.  Either way they never took the package so it never was scanned to go anywhere else...

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Request to Void USPS shipping label REJECTED even though never used

The pkg doesn't exist, so it is by definition lost. If USPS balks and says there is/was no pkg, then the question becomes why did they scan the label. Delicious. USPS is logically hosed if it comes to that.

That's brilliant, if I can't get a postmaster or somebody to refund the charges.  File a lost package and see them try to chase down something that doesn't exist. Haha!  Is there a default insurance amount like $100 or something for  a package that completely disappeared and was being tracked via a tracking number?  That would be nice but I doubt it...

 

Thanks for all the help, I'll update with their response.

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Thanks for the suggestion.  I'm going to have to drive down to that post office and talk to somebody in charge and see if they can fix the problem.  It makes sense the system would automatically void a refund if a clerk accidentally scanned the package like it was being taken in.

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Request to Void USPS shipping label REJECTED even though never used

Oh, I got a free flat rate box and bought the label via ebay at home online.
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@cyb3rkid wrote:

Is there a default insurance amount like $100 or something for  a package that completely disappeared and was being tracked via a tracking number?  That would be nice but I doubt it...


You don't claim value ... that would be insurance fraud.   You are just trying to get back the postage cost.

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