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Neighbor using my address

Hi everyone,

This has nothing to do with me selling an item. I received a package with my address but wrong name. It turns out that it belong to my neighbor. She came to pick it up the next day. About 5 days later (today) the man who delivered it came to speak to me about the package. He told me that she put in a claim yesterday that she did not receive her package she did. I explain to the guy that I gave it to her and she has it. It seems that she did that intentionally and I do not know what to do. 

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You probably just shouldn't get in the middle of it.  If there's a delivery scan and it was delivered to the address that was on the package and that was on her order, then the exact name shouldn't matter and she should lose the claim.  You didn't mention which carrier (UPS? USPS?) or whether this was an eBay transaction.

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If tracking shows the item delivered to the address she provided (yours), she will lose the case. USPS delivered to the address she said to, so there would be no reason for USPS to refund her money.

If she tries it again, you cannot legally keep it (even though that may be really tempting). It's actually a federal law, 18 U.S.C. §1703, so it applies across the country and supersedes any state laws. The relevant section:
"Whoever, without authority, opens, or destroys any mail or package of newspapers not directed to him, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

You could cross out the address & name, write "Return to Sender, Not at this Address" somewhere near the address, and drop it in a post box, or take it to a post office.

My guess is that she isn't probably going to try it again if she loses the claim, but you never know.
Good luck!



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That is strange isn't it. And kind of sneaky. Well, not sure what the outcome will be on this given it is now a he said she said case.

 

In the future, when you receive deliveries that are not yours, the easiest, and smartest thing to do is with a big black sharpie "X" out the delivery address, mark return to send, not at this address and send the item back via dropping it in a drop box, calling for a pickup etc. I have done it several times myself. Items delivered to my address that are addressed to my neighbor, I actually write miss-delivered and take it to the post office/FedEx/UPS Store and leave it for them to re-deliver.

 

If asked by a neighbor if you received the package - even if it is still in your house - politely say I did in fact receive something, and I marked it return to sender - or in the case of a miss delivery I returned it to whoever for redelivery. Not like the old days... you just never know who you live next door to.

 

I personally don't like to get involved in my neighbors business and I do have at least one very creepy neighbor. Can't count the number of times the police have visited their house over the last 7 years.... Matter of fact, I keep a loaded gun in my building because of them. One time, the police actually came to my house to use the back yard...the captain said they know him well...lol I know enough to know the husband is quite the drunkard and mentally unstable.

 

Cheers

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Just want to emphasize a statement made by @nobody*s_perfect. Your "neighbor" will LOSE her claim that the item was not delivered properly. It WAS delivered to the exact address she provided when she purchased the item. That's what eBay and PayPal care about.

Anyone reading this thread and considering trying this failed scam should reconsider. It won't work. Find another way to cheat people.
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Thank you! I have cameras around my house which captures her actually coming to get the package so that gives me some relief.
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Actually this would be considered mail fraud, she maybe in a heap of trouble if she can't prove that the sender just mixed up a number like a house number 123 instead of 124. In fact the carrier and postmaster will probably be watching for her to try the same with another neighbors number. 

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You could report the incident to the USPS Postal Inspectors as a suspected mail fraud case.   Your neighbor will probably not be happy about it if you do.  Of course, it sounds like your neighbor is a crook.  You don't leave your doors & windows unlocked, I hope. 

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@pburn wrote:
Just want to emphasize a statement made by @nobody*s_perfect. Your "neighbor" will LOSE her claim that the item was not delivered properly. It WAS delivered to the exact address she provided when she purchased the item. That's what eBay and PayPal care about.

Anyone reading this thread and considering trying this failed scam should reconsider. It won't work. Find another way to cheat people.

WHOA... Back up the truck here. I have an idea that I know what's going on here, and it's not the neighbor (the buyer) who is pulling a scam here, but it could be the seller.

 

To begin with, an Item Not Received dispute does not take into account the exact street address, just the buyer's City and ZIP, so as noted above, the buyer cannot win an Item Not Received dispute by having it delivered two doors down. When the OP receives it, it's Delivered as far as eBay is concerned. There is no advantage to the buyer to do this.

 

The package that arrived was not described here, but if the buyer paid for a laptop and the OP received a lightweight trinket instead, the seller is pulling a fast one. It would be up to the buyer to say if what's in that package is what they actually ordered.

 

If it isn't, then this is the classic scam whereby a seller sells some high-value item on-line, but sends a worthless trinket to some other address within the same City and ZIP. That will fulfill proof of delivery as a defense against an INR dispute, and (unless the buyer gets nefariously creative Smiley Wink) prevents any return as a Not As Described dispute, since the buyer did not actually receive anything for them to return.

 

The only slight flaw in this particular incident is that the neighbor's name remained on the label even though the package was getting sent someplace else. (I'm assuming here that the name on the label really is the buyer, and not just another local name found via Google.) Normally the scammer will address it to a fast-food place or other retail address where it will be accepted as part of the usual business mail.

 

So it might be a misaddressing scam, or just a dyslexic seller. It would be up to the buyer to say whether the contents of that misaddressed package were in fact what was supposed to arrive.

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So there you have it @heartagram1994 do your surveillance videos show a truck inside that same-zipcode scam package?

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I'd suggest you made quite a few assumptions in your scenario.
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@pburn wrote:
I'd suggest you made quite a few assumptions in your scenario.

 

The fact that she came to pick it up from the OP makes me think she probably knew what was going on IMO...How else would she have known where to come looking for it?

 




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@*coins wrote:

@pburn wrote:
I'd suggest you made quite a few assumptions in your scenario.

The fact that she came to pick it up from the OP makes me think she probably knew what was going on IMO...How else would she have known where to come looking for it?


Oh, yuck... Yes, I missed a key detail, so I read the whole thing wrong. The neighbor retrieved the package and then filed the claim (or INR dispute) several days later, so yes, it does sound like she thought she could get away with it. The PO has the GPS coordinates on where it actually went (and possibly its actual street address in their intranet records), and an INR dispute based on delivering the package three doors down wouldn't work anyway, as long as the OP's City and ZIP are the same as that of the buyer.

 

(She's claiming that she didn't receive the package at all, right? She's not claiming that it had the wrong item in it, is she?)

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@a_c_green wrote:

@*coins wrote:

@pburn wrote:
I'd suggest you made quite a few assumptions in your scenario.

The fact that she came to pick it up from the OP makes me think she probably knew what was going on IMO...How else would she have known where to come looking for it?


Oh, yuck... Yes, I missed a key detail, so I read the whole thing wrong. The neighbor retrieved the package and then filed the claim (or INR dispute) several days later, so yes, it does sound like she thought she could get away with it. The PO has the GPS coordinates on where it actually went (and possibly its actual street address in their intranet records), and an INR dispute based on delivering the package three doors down wouldn't work anyway, as long as the OP's City and ZIP are the same as that of the buyer.

 

(She's claiming that she didn't receive the package at all, right? She's not claiming that it had the wrong item in it, is she?)


I read it as she had it shipped to the OP on purpose and then opened an INR (because she claims she shipped it to the wrong address). The funny part is that she provided the OP's address when she checked out, so she would lose an INR since it was delivered to the address she provided. That's what I got out of it and think is going on. 🙂




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@a_c_green wrote:

@*coins wrote:

@pburn wrote:
I'd suggest you made quite a few assumptions in your scenario.

The fact that she came to pick it up from the OP makes me think she probably knew what was going on IMO...How else would she have known where to come looking for it?


Oh, yuck... Yes, I missed a key detail, so I read the whole thing wrong. The neighbor retrieved the package and then filed the claim (or INR dispute) several days later, so yes, it does sound like she thought she could get away with it. The PO has the GPS coordinates on where it actually went (and possibly its actual street address in their intranet records), and an INR dispute based on delivering the package three doors down wouldn't work anyway, as long as the OP's City and ZIP are the same as that of the buyer.

 

(She's claiming that she didn't receive the package at all, right? She's not claiming that it had the wrong item in it, is she?)


It sounds like an insurance claim was filed because of this statement:

 

"About 5 days later (today) the man who delivered it came to speak to me about the package. He told me that she put in a claim yesterday that she did not receive her package she did.". 

 

There is also nothing to suggest the neighbor intentionally had it shipped to her. Sounds to me as if the neighbor is taking advantage of the sender's mistake. The OP also doesn't say whether or not she contacted the neighbor to let her know she had the package. The OP could have done that. Or upon checking the tracking, the buyer could have contacted the seller and discovered the seller shipped to the wrong house. Or.....the buyer is a scammer 😉

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