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This guy just send me a message from ricben299067.I called ebay and they dont answer their phoneThis is his messageThis is his message

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that letter looks legit.  you better take down your accu-check listing.  It is not worth the fight for a lower cost item like that.  They are saying if you listed it as not "NEW" it might be OK.  Maybe used in sealed box?

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Sounds as if you are attempting to sell Roche Brand products, but they claim you are not a licensed seller or distributor.

 

This resembles a VERO dispute, and eBay will promptly side with Roche Brand, and remove all of your associated listings.  This has happened with quite a few eBay sellers (me included); and there's nothing we can do about it.

 

Sorry for the bad news.

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From an overly legalistic point of view, “new” merchandise means it’s never been subject to a retail sale with the collection of sales tax.  Roche might be taking that position rather than a more common understanding.

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I know this is picking nits, but I'd have thought that a big company like this would have learned, by now, not to put two spaces after a period.

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@iart wrote:

I know this is picking nits, but I'd have thought that a big company like this would have learned, by now, not to put two spaces after a period.


Two spaces after a period, one space after a comma per every style guide I've ever used. 


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Do not obey in advance." Timothy Snyder "On Tyranny"
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I wouldn't take it down, I'd post the letter they sent with my posting. Advise them product isn't guaranteed by the company. If you want a guarantee, buy direct from them, if you want a good deal buy from me.  

 

You'll have to accept returns anyway.   

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@chapeau-noir wrote:

@iart wrote:

I know this is picking nits, but I'd have thought that a big company like this would have learned, by now, not to put two spaces after a period.


Two spaces after a period, one space after a comma per every style guide I've ever used. 


@chapeau-noir 

I think that anyone who has learned to type since the invention of a pc only puts one space after a period.  [I think it's easier to read print with 2 spaces ... so I never tried to train myself out of it.]

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@house*of*paws wrote:

 


@chapeau-noir wrote:

@iart wrote:

I know this is picking nits, but I'd have thought that a big company like this would have learned, by now, not to put two spaces after a period.


Two spaces after a period, one space after a comma per every style guide I've ever used. 


@chapeau-noir 

I think that anyone who has learned to type since the invention of a pc only puts one space after a period.  [I think it's easier to read print with 2 spaces ... so I never tried to train myself out of it.]


That may be, but I would never consider the older two-spaces to be 'wrong' - it's a publication convention. 


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Do not obey in advance." Timothy Snyder "On Tyranny"
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@chapeau-noir Agreed with 2 spaces.  Anyone who took typing class in HS knows this (back when there were typewriters).  

 

Way back when...dang I'm old.

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I do know that spacing changed when technologies changed, but only quite a while after - I was an editor right around when the tech began to shift - there were still the older electric typewriters but word processors were being heavily used and PCs just coming in.  Two spaces/one space is pretty much to do with mechanics and not getting bits of words in the wrong places because one hits a carriage return.  Style manuals stayed with the two spaces up to and including when I finally retired not that long ago - but I should say that I was strictly in science/medicine.  The last two papers I published required the two spaces, though, and they were academic.

 

What I was focusing on in that letter was that it was a rather clumsy writing job. I almost wondered if it was real.


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Do not obey in advance." Timothy Snyder "On Tyranny"
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I had to laugh over the one space/two space - I remember a prolonged shouting argument in our office over the Oxford comma, with one or two of my staff nearly strangling with rage.  I was the senior editor and found that the person who had the job before me had been driven to drink lol.  Fortunately, my nerves were stronger.  But man, there were times....


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Do not obey in advance." Timothy Snyder "On Tyranny"
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Hurmppphhhh...there is no debate, rational discussion, or point of view, regarding the propriety of the Oxford comma.

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@chapeau-noir wrote:

What I was focusing on in that letter was that it was a rather clumsy writing job. I almost wondered if it was real.


I agree; that's a weird use of the word "recite," for starters. It's also unsolicited and unsigned, so while it may be "real" in terms of being sent by Roche, it's a clumsy and amateur attempt at business writing.

 

In addition, it drones on and on about eBay rules and regs that seem to have been copied from eBay help pages, attempting to add an air of authenticity to a letter that doesn't have much of its own. It ends with threats to have eBay impose penalties on the seller's account if the seller does not respond to their unsolicited message, though it does not appear (from the way this is shown) that eBay knows much if anything about it.

 

@angelheart1435 : How exactly did you receive this? The user ID you mentioned does not seem to exist. Did you receive a PDF and print it, or did you receive that image of a printed letter as you have posted here? If it was an image of a letter, it sounds as if the sender was making a deliberate attempt to fly undetected under eBay's radar. That is not a sender that I would respond to.

 

P.S. Double-spacing at the end of a sentence does live on in our modern world. 🙂 If you type two spaces in a row when texting or emailing on your phone, it will usually convert that into a period/space, and initial-cap the next word as the beginning of the next sentence.

 

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@chapeau-noir  But lets be perfectly clear about the Roche letter.  There is an intern in the Roche legal department, who is paid $10/hour and wrote that letter and who's job it is now is to sit at a computer all day and search listings on eBay for Roche products.  When he/she/it/them finds one, he/she/it/them sends the seller a nasty gram.  There is a 99.987% probability that Roche does not follow up with any eBay seller that is the gets one of their "love" letters.

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