03-07-2022 11:07 AM
This guy just send me a message from ricben299067.I called ebay and they dont answer their phoneThis is his message
03-07-2022 01:32 PM
@tex-421 wrote:There is a 99.987% probability that Roche does not follow up with any eBay seller that is the gets one of their "love" letters.
Judging from the sheer quantity of other, similar products that eBay showed me when I looked at the OP's listing, I would definitely say that is the case.
03-07-2022 01:42 PM
If it's legit, you might get a registered packet in the mail from their legal department in a few days.
03-07-2022 01:49 PM
Always 2 spaces after a period. No debate in my book! I've tried the 'new' way, I wind up with a hodgepodge, so I'll stick with my fuddy duddy ways & you know what...get off my lawn. Oh, yeah, one other thing...I went to the best concerts 😊
In regards to OP, if it were me, I'd probably just call it pre-owned & then explain in the description, that's it's new but been tried on or something like that. Frankly, if they had a VERO-able case, they would have gone after it that way. They clearly don't, so they're trying to intimidate you. You can even consider continuing to call it NEW & just adding details to your description ie; bought it new, but it's been sitting in my closet or my husband didn't like it or whatever, that way you are adding more description, but still maintaining your highest $$ potential.
03-07-2022 01:52 PM
What's really maddening about the letter, they don't even have the courtesy to put a human name on it and sign it.
"Respectfully, Roche Brand Enforcement". What gigantic load of **bleep**
03-07-2022 02:00 PM
Yes rights holders can force ebay to protect their products. You see if you sell it new and the customer complains to them it can cause a lot of problems they do not want. They can simply force trademark/copyright rights upon you and get you in a lot of trouble. Best to comply and not embellish listings.
03-07-2022 02:09 PM - edited 03-07-2022 02:12 PM
@chapeau-noir wrote:That may be, but I would never consider the older two-spaces to be 'wrong' - it's a publication convention.
Agreed. I seem to remember an 'autocorrect' system that changed all my double-spaces to single ... so maybe it has become 'wrong'.
03-07-2022 02:10 PM
@chapeau-noir wrote:
@iart wrote:I know this is picking nits, but I'd have thought that a big company like this would have learned, by now, not to put two spaces after a period.
Two spaces after a period, one space after a comma per every style guide I've ever used.
@chapeau-noir wrote:
@iart wrote:I know this is picking nits, but I'd have thought that a big company like this would have learned, by now, not to put two spaces after a period.
Two spaces after a period, one space after a comma per every style guide I've ever used.
Which style guides have you been using?
03-07-2022 02:27 PM
old is not only that, old is not having a smart phone nowadays. Our grandkids call us Dino's......now that is old!
Balck & White TV with rotary dial and rabbit ears.......lucky to get more than 5 channels
One rotary phone in kitchen and a huge upgrade was the super long cord. (great for use on siblings)
Toll House cookies where Mom is locked in bathroom and kids eat the batter
Gas coupons/rationing notes/called many different things limiting the amount of gas you could buy in a month.
Gas only pumped by Gas Station employee who checks your oil, wiper fluid, and cleans your windows
Going to the Butcher for meat, Ben Franklins for cleaning supplies (while tugging on Mom's dress (not slacks/tights/etc.) for a nickel to buy 1 cent candy.
Going to the Dentist, Dentist smokes while working on teeth. No type of pain medicines used and the smell of your teeth burning as they are grinded.
It is great being a Dino........so many life experiences.
03-07-2022 02:32 PM
@house*of*paws wrote:
@chapeau-noir wrote:That may be, but I would never consider the older two-spaces to be 'wrong' - it's a publication convention.
Agreed. I seem to remember an 'autocorrect' system that changed all my double-spaces to single ... so maybe it has become 'wrong'.
I've used autocorrects that have remained two spaces. My phone probably corrects to one, but I only us one space on that LOL.
@pburn Every company I've edited for has had their own style guide, the two academic societies I've written for have had their OWN style guide, plus the MLA (that one changed recently, I'll admit, to saying 'be consistent'), APA and a bunch of others. I've also had to swing between British usage and American usage.
03-07-2022 02:49 PM - edited 03-07-2022 02:53 PM
I'm most familiar with the MLA, but I've noticed there are certainly variations among the different style manuals, as well as through the years they've been published. I'm aware of some of the differences between American and British English, so that's always of interest to me, too.
I'm always so hesitant to correct other people's posts in regard to grammar and/or punctuation--and even spelling--for those very reasons.
My father was a proofreader for our local newspaper, and he would have my sister and I go through both the morning and evening editions to look for errors. While that may sound like punishment, it was actually great fun. It not only made us better at spelling, punctuation, and grammar, but also made us aware of current events. It was a win-win at our house!
Thanks for your reply!
P.S. Threw that Oxford comma in just for you!
03-07-2022 02:54 PM
That's when using a typewriter. Computer programs automatically add extra space after a period.
@chapeau-noir wrote:
@iart wrote:I know this is picking nits, but I'd have thought that a big company like this would have learned, by now, not to put two spaces after a period.
Two spaces after a period, one space after a comma per every style guide I've ever used.
03-07-2022 02:55 PM
Exactly, when using a typewriter. Computer programs add extra space after a period automatically.
@evry1nositswindy wrote:@chapeau-noir Agreed with 2 spaces. Anyone who took typing class in HS knows this (back when there were typewriters).
Way back when...dang I'm old.
03-07-2022 03:01 PM
You would normally insert a space by pressing the spacebar on your keyboard. Your browser will truncate consecutive spaces. Sometimes a paragraph or a table created with HTML code will look funny without forcing extra spaces.
You can use Alt Codes to insert other characters, including what appears to be a space.
Press and hold down the Alt key
Type the numerical Alt code, from 1 to 4 digits
Release the Alt key
spacebar spacebar will result in 1 space, because consecutive spaces get truncated.
spacebar Alt255 will result in 2 spaces. Notice there are 2 characters. (displayed as blank spaces)
spacebar Alt255 spacebar Alt255 will result in 4 spaces.
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03-07-2022 03:06 PM
I Googled the rule:
Unless you are typing on an actual typewriter, you no longer have to put two spaces after a period. Or a question mark. Or an exclamation point. The rule applies to all end punctuation.
Plenty of others say the same. I think sometimes, lawyers still purposely use the 2 spaces for some reason.
It is a hard habit to break. It took me a couple years. But that was about 20 years ago.
03-07-2022 03:14 PM - edited 03-07-2022 03:19 PM
@chapeau-noir wrote:
@house*of*paws wrote:
@chapeau-noir wrote:That may be, but I would never consider the older two-spaces to be 'wrong' - it's a publication convention.
Agreed. I seem to remember an 'autocorrect' system that changed all my double-spaces to single ... so maybe it has become 'wrong'.I've used autocorrects that have remained two spaces. My phone probably corrects to one, but I only us one space on that LOL.
@pburn Every company I've edited for has had their own style guide, the two academic societies I've written for have had their OWN style guide, plus the MLA (that one changed recently, I'll admit, to saying 'be consistent'), APA and a bunch of others. I've also had to swing between British usage and American usage.
Using two spaces after a period was only for monospace fonts, fonts where each and every character is the same width. In pre-computer days, that meant two spaces were used with a typewriter (always monospace), but not with typeset printed material. With proportional fonts (each character can have a different width), there's no need to use a double space after a period, because the eye can more easily see the ends of the sentences when the characters are not all spaced out at the exact same width for each letter.
This font is called Courier New. Courier font was based on the font developed by IBM for their IBM Selectric typewriters. Its one of the few monospace fonts that are widely available on computers. I am using double spaces after the periods here, because that makes it easier for the eye to detect the ends of the sentences. This is the correct way to do spacing with this monospace font.
So, when using a computer, you only need to use a single space after the period (between sentences). It was correct to use double-spaces when using a typewriter, but it's not necessary with most computer fonts.
Unless you really want to date yourself.