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no sales in almost 3 days, 1000 items with best offer

what a joke, seems something is going on here... i made some nice sales friday from auctions i had, and zip since. almost 3 days and no sales, no best offers. NOTHING. Nice... I guess its true, have heard people say that ebay sometimes hides or turns off peoples listings or something like that. who knows.

 

PS - I hate amazon. i hate apple too.

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@coolections wrote:

@equid0x wrote:

I posted an example thread here of an item that was not showing up in standard search immediately after posting, and could only be found by typing in the item number directly. I know another one took a full 24 hours to show up, but I paid for a 30 day listing, and only got 29 days of exposure. 


It has been like that for years. I'm surprised you didn't know that. And to the Zumozan or whatever his name is I never read those long winded posts and never saw a screenshot with Ebay hiding his stuff. With that said I have shown him several times that is listings ARE there. His competition sells the same things for cheaper and his only other problem is he used to be on top of search and thinks he is the only one allowed to be on top. Yes, search changes daily and sometime items may go from page one to page 20.


Okay, I'll try to remember to look that up tomorrow then 🙂

 

So you're admitting you argued with my posts, without even reading the evidence I provided...?

And btw, we're still #1 in search and the category.

 

If "the competition sells the same things for cheaper than we do", then doesn't that disprove your theory that the problems everyone's facing are from prices...?

 

I guess the entire category we're in has top sellers with prices that aren't competitive, huh? Considering they all dropped... 

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As a experiment we have been revising a few liatings and adding some listings each day. We all then went on a 5 day vacation only coming by the shop to pack out orders each night. During that time nothing was added or revised except for out of stocks. During that 5 days views took a nose dive after day 2. After the second day of coming back and revising or listing views started climbing again. We are only seeing this thru the promoted listings.

 

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Another example... people selling video games or DVD/BluRays for $2.99 w/ free shipping and returns. Doesn't make any sense. The shipping alone is at least $2.66. Bulk #0 mailers are something like $0.17/pc. Add in fees, advertising... you're in the red. 


That's assuming they're shipping it with tracking and not just in a plain old manila envelope for 49 cents or whatever the cost of a stamp is these days.  I can get CDs and DVDs by the bin for a nickel each at my local thrift store.

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@kathieskorner wrote:

Last July was my best month of 2018 - this July I've sold a total of 6 items - only one of which was over a weekend - also highly unusual.   

 

I do believe that not paying extra fees by using sponsored listings is part of the reason my sales are almost non-existent, but I refuse to give eBay any more in the way of fees especially with so many technical issues plaguing the site. .... Those paying those fees are just encouraging eBay to come up with more ways to squeeze sellers.  


Last July (2018) was my 2nd best month ever at the time. I'm a starter store growing each month, until last May. This July I have made 5 sales, all under $10, and am facing the probability of having my worst month since I opened the store 2-1/2 yrs ago.

 

I did a lot experimenting in my first year, tried the sponsored promotions for 2 months (25/75) and only made 1 sale vs dozens of those non-sponsored. This all seems like I'm having a really bad dream.  

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@yuzuha wrote:

@equid0x wrote:

Another example... people selling video games or DVD/BluRays for $2.99 w/ free shipping and returns. Doesn't make any sense. The shipping alone is at least $2.66. Bulk #0 mailers are something like $0.17/pc. Add in fees, advertising... you're in the red. 


That's assuming they're shipping it with tracking and not just in a plain old manila envelope for 49 cents or whatever the cost of a stamp is these days.  I can get CDs and DVDs by the bin for a nickel each at my local thrift store.


Good point. The thrift stores around here are selling them for $2-$3/pc but you can get them half off one day a week. You can get them at the clearance center but they seem to be pretty picked over by the time they arrive there. 

 

I couldn't imaging sending no tracking these days. INR scams seem to be quite prevalent from what I've read around the internet. 

 

Same thing with the packing... the PO around here plays football with all the packages before they go out. 

 

Assuming you paid $.10 for the envelope, $.49 for the shipping, and $.05 for the DVD that nets a profit of $1.66 per item. Hardly seems even worth the time to drive to the post office and mail them for that kind of profit. You still have to figure in your time and mileage picking them up from the store and dropping them at the PO. 

 

I've sold some stuff that cheap just to offload it... and it gets sent out with all the rest of my shipments for the day. But I don't really source these, they come in on lots I buy with a bunch of other stuff. I see some sellers that seem to operate in that niche and the numbers just don't scale for me. even if you sold 100 a day... that's $166... if you spend 7 hours packing it is $23-$24/hr but that sounds like an extremely tedious way to make money. Somehow I doubt they sell anything close to 100 a day - probably more like 20 at most. 

 

 

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@equid0x 

 

How long have you been selling? I don’t mean that in a snide way - but, this has always been the case (listings not organically appearing in search immediately or even up to 24 hours). 

 

It was commonly understood 10 years or so ago that listings often took time to index and were not immediately visible.

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Completely agree. Search is broken. And users are funneled into very narrow search parameters with no way to learn about related items in other categories they might like to explore. Cassini killed cross category browsing and sales around 2008.

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@this*old*attic wrote:

@equid0x 

 

How long have you been selling? I don’t mean that in a snide way - but, this has always been the case (listings not organically appearing in search immediately or even up to 24 hours). 

 

It was commonly understood 10 years or so ago that listings often took time to index and were not immediately visible.


I've sold on and off the whole time I've had an account here.

 

I really don't remember how long listings took to index 10 years ago. I certainly don't remember it ever taking hours or days. Maybe minutes at most.

 

If you understand how databases work, there is really no reason for items to take very long to index. If your database cluster is exceptionally slow, it might take minutes. The only other reason it could take longer would be slow replication due to resource problems, or a node that's actually broken.

 

That said, I'm not going to claim to know anything at all specifically about eBay's backend infrastructure, but I have operated database clusters on some of the largest networks in the world, and replication times are typically (practically) instantaneous to a few seconds at most.

 

If eBay infrastructure is taking hours to days to replicate then it's either seriously oversubscribed or something is seriously malfunctional.

 

As an example, think about how many transactions Visa runs in a day. Transactions show up pretty much immediately. So, it's definitely possible to process in real time. If every other company in the world can do this, why can't eBay?

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Exactly! We can't just put all the blame on ebay, the economy, etc, sellers need to own up to their shortfalls and find ways to do better. I'm crying because my sales aren't great either, but I know there's things I can do to improve my odds of making more sales.

 

I sell mainly video games and movies, and not much else. By doing this I know I'm limiting myself only to the buyers who're looking for my specific products. But I didn't expect to come back to ebay after 3 years and magically make a living overnight either.

 

Since January I've grown my store to over 800 listings, mostly those games and movies, and now I'm looking to invest in more new products to diversify what I have to offer. I'm willing to try new things and see what works, and I know I'm on the right path.

 

Selling on ebay is also a matter of trial and error. A lot of sellers who do really well knows what will sell, and what wont. It comes with experience.

 

As sellers, we need to be willing to take a chance, be willing to adapt to the ever changing world of e-commerce, and be willing to make a solid effort. Looking at this sellers listings, I don't see the effort at all.

 

Everyone wants to make money, but not everyone wants to make the effort. As an example, all last year I waited tables in a restaurant, earning 3X to 4X what my co-workers did. My co-workers would cry about how broke they were every night, while I was walking out the door with $300 in cash for an 8 hour shift.

 

You only get what you put in.

 

 

 

 

 

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OMG, I so agree.

 

 I waited tables myself many years ago, and also made 3-4 times more in tips than coworkers who had seniority and 25 years experience. It’s all in the perception customers have regarding how well they’re being attended to - and they’ll be quite patient so long as you greet them, make sure they have something to drink (even if it’s water), etc.

 

My sales here are very consistent, too. Tiny at the moment because I’m not working the tactics many of us know do work (full time job and some real world issues in the way at the moment), but I know my stuff and put together tight listings with quality pictures. I’m covering a couple of utility bills every month floating off work I did months ago.

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I think it's a combo of lots (@djdaniel2015 is right), poor photos (dark, distant, things in hands, many are so fuzzy I can't tell what it is) and the usual June slump.  Most of the sold items are train collector/railroad items, which have a year-round cache and I think are really worth photo upgrades.  There are also so many dark photos to wade through that I suspect buyers get burned out, yet I suspect there's a lot of cool stuff there.

 

We can't control eBay's wonkiness, and I do agree there are problems (I don't think indexing is one of them, I've had stuff sell minutes after it goes live), but we can control what we do on our end.  There are also things we can't get away with as well in an increasingly competitive venue and presentation is huge.  I sell in a crowded area and I'm always hustling to try to do my best and stand out a bit - I consider photos to be important - especially if you're selling items where the photo is integral to the actual condition of the item.

 

My 2 cents, anyway.


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Do not obey in advance." Timothy Snyder "On Tyranny"
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What I'm basically saying is believe in your merchandise, have pride in your selection and show that pride.  OP's cool, eclectic selection is exactly what distinguishes ebay from its competition - it's important to really show that off.


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Do not obey in advance." Timothy Snyder "On Tyranny"
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Interesting. He's definitely the most informed seller I've come across in this forum. You ought to read his posts sometime. You might learn something. Smiley Wink

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@coolections wrote:

@equid0x wrote:

I posted an example thread here of an item that was not showing up in standard search immediately after posting, and could only be found by typing in the item number directly. I know another one took a full 24 hours to show up, but I paid for a 30 day listing, and only got 29 days of exposure. 


It has been like that for years. I'm surprised you didn't know that. And to the Zumozan or whatever his name is I never read those long winded posts and never saw a screenshot with Ebay hiding his stuff. With that said I have shown him several times that is listings ARE there. His competition sells the same things for cheaper and his only other problem is he used to be on top of search and thinks he is the only one allowed to be on top. Yes, search changes daily and sometime items may go from page one to page 20.


Okay, here you go: 

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Mortified-That-Lowest-Price-Sort-IS-NOT-LOWEST-PRICE/m-p/29223...

That thread has evidence provided of what you're telling other sellers "does not happen", and you clearly have seen it as you were commenting and arguing in that thread. 

 

You're saying now you never read it and did not see it... yet in the topic you literally replied to it. If you click my name in your response, it takes you to the post where I posted the screenshots.

 

You can see even back then, I was asking you not to mislead community members as well.

 

Again, please do not mislead community members.

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I have experienced the same search results numerous times.  Me thinks Cool, it might be time to get some glasses? 👀

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