05-12-2020 09:27 AM
hello i sold item in february to taiwan, due covin its huge delay, it should arrive in 10-14 days priority and its 80 days already, item from 2 days is in taiwan FINALLY
problem is buyer open a case and won 2 months ago cause item missing
ebay refund all money, buyer never respond to my emails after that, he probably wont loggin or buying, i dont care
i contacted ebay and they told me i should contact with buyer and he maybe he refund or sent item back (LOL)
so please talk to me straight, in this case, i see money from ebay or they dont care?
05-13-2020 07:48 AM
05-13-2020 08:16 AM
It's stupid that ebay can take money from your account and pay the buyer but cannot take money from a buyer to pay you.
05-13-2020 09:24 AM
Appeal the refund through paypal if you are able to, if the tracking shows it was finally delivered paypay will refund you.
05-13-2020 12:05 PM
@wujawitczak wrote:ok but isnt delay cause covid19 is the thing that ebay, buyers and sellers could take into account? thats why is easily scam at this moment, i bet that cases like mines are lot more, yes i believe some buyers are honest im telling all of people are scamers, but this dude open a case and didnt care about covid, he just simply won and from yesterday receive item for free, of course he didnt loggin to ebay immediately and didnt contact me
Yes and they are but that doesn't mean it is open ended. I do understand your frustration and concern. I would feel much the same way if I found the buyer to have received the item at a later date. I fully agree that the buyer should step up and pay you or return the item. I don't disagree with that at all.
05-13-2020 12:08 PM
@animal-house-8 wrote:It's stupid that ebay can take money from your account and pay the buyer but cannot take money from a buyer to pay you.
Ebay has never had buyers set up their accounts in that way to allow for this. While I know blaming Ebay for this problem seems to be popular, are you aware of any other site that does this? There are other similar sites out there. So how would they handle this situation?
05-13-2020 12:09 PM
@reallyhardtofind wrote:Appeal the refund through paypal if you are able to, if the tracking shows it was finally delivered paypay will refund you.
Now that is an interesting idea. I like it. I hope the OP tries this and lets us know how it turns out.
05-13-2020 07:26 PM
05-13-2020 11:16 PM
@pinksakura2000 wrote:
While I agree that the buyer should get the money refunded when the item has never reached them, sellers should be compensated after showing tracking of successful delivery. Ebay is the medium who should be responsible since it was the one who took your money in the first place.
In any case, if you have time and want to do the right thing, you may write to the following agencies to seek remediation/justice.
Better Business Bureaus, Inc.
https://www.bbb.org/consumer-complaints/file-a-complaint/get-started
State of California Department of Justice OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL-XAVIER BECERRA https://oag.ca.gov/consumers
Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) www.ic3.gov ArbiClaims Dispute Resolution http://www.arbiclaims.com/bbb
California Department of Consumer Affairs
1625 North Market Blvd., Suite N 112 Sacramento, CA 95834
(800) 952-5210
Contractors State License Board PO Box 26000 Sacramento, CA
(800) 321-CSLB (2752)
What other sites similar to Ebay do this? I personally have never ran across one that handles it any different that Ebay does but I'm willing to learn.
05-15-2020 03:29 PM - edited 05-15-2020 03:30 PM
ppal doesnt care, they claim that case was provided by ebay and i need to contact with ebay, and ebay want me contact with buyer who stop responding on my messages 60 days and didnt contact me after receive item which is a scam at this moment
when item still was in transit, i contacted ebay and they told me item need to be delivered if i want them to step forward, i was pretty sure they mean refund, apperently after delivered they forward me to buyer, it doesnt make any sense, to be honest i prefer to item burn in hell instead encourage scammers like buyers to have item and money
i just dont understand why ebay didnt see nothing wrong that i lost everything and they told me they dont refund even after delivered, i thought its pretty obvious that in this kinda type of cases like delay delivery they backup seller when item finally arrive and just take money from buyer account or just cover it with their money
is there any seller who was in situation like mine?
05-15-2020 03:41 PM
It isn't that Ebay doesn't care or doesn't see anything wrong with the buyer not repaying you. It is there is nothing they can do to make the buyer do that.
I'd be upset too. That is completely understandable.
05-15-2020 03:51 PM
I would email the buyer and say " I see your item finally arrived. When may I expect repayment for this item"
I would say report the buyer, but because the item remained MIA for such a long period of time,(which is the key element here) and because ebays system, by design, is set up for this type situation to end in favor of buyer, I dont really see anything thats reportable.
05-15-2020 03:54 PM
@paradiso*bella*a*venire wrote:I would email the buyer and say " I see your item finally arrived. When may I expect repayment for this item"
I would say report the buyer, but because the item remained MIA for such a long period of time,(which is the key element here) and because ebays system, by design, is set up for this type situation to end in favor of buyer, I dont really see anything thats reportable.
Things are more complicated because it is an international sale. They have already tried to contact the buyer and the buyer isn't responding. There isn't a lot left to do as a seller except move on. Frustrating to be sure, but not much of anything that can be done about it.
05-15-2020 04:56 PM
If you shipped via USPS priority mail, I am not sure why you didn't file an online insurance claim for lost package with USPS a long time ago. Priority mail comes with free insurance. I believe it is a free $200 for priority international and you can file as soon as 7 days after shipment. Now that it shows delivered, you won't be able to file a claim.
And it is not that eBay doesn't care, it's just not eBay's responsibility to refund you. I understand this scenario is frustrating, but lost/delayed packages are legally the responsibility of the seller. It is out of the seller's control most of the time, but it is still the seller's responsibility. Shipping insurance protects sellers from loss or damage. If you want to protect yourself in the future, shipping insurance is the way to go. You have to put yourself in the buyer's shoes - 80+ days is an extremely long time to wait for a package. I don't think the buyer should keep it for free without talking to you, but I personally (as a seller) wouldn't expect a buyer to re-pay (at least not full price) for such a long delivery time.
If I were you, I would start insuring all of my packages (US and international, no matter the class) through a third party shipping insurance. I use Shipsurance, but there are other companies. It's cheap and easy to file a claim. Lost/delayed packages are at a much higher occurrence right now than ever before, so even if you don't do it long term it is wise to do right now.
05-15-2020 08:25 PM
05-15-2020 10:55 PM
@cjsupplies1980 wrote:
If it was an international sale and you used the global shipping program you should be covered. Once the item reaches the GSP center you are no longer responsible.
That question has been asked, but the OP never answered it.