mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
I'm well aware of what eBay service provides for taking a % of the items we sell. I did not complain about that. WE DON'T MAKE MONEY OFF OF SHIPPING SO NEITHER SHOULD EBAY!
I think you are mixing up two different things. The FVF on the total sale is because Ebay is our Money Processor. That is one thing.
Any money that Ebay makes by us purchasing our shipping on the site is a separate issue. They get some kind of a fee from the carriers for selling their products, just as ANY other site does that sells shipping labels. If this is something you don't want to give to Ebay, then it is simple, Don't buy your shipping labels on Ebay. You have the right to purchase them elsewhere if you want.
We make our profit on the items sold. So, on top of paying a fee for selling an item, we are paying a fee for shipping it. WE package the item(s). WE deliver them to the PO. WE pay the PO to ship them. Ebay does nothing to aid in this service that only the sellers provide.
Like I explain above you are mixing two different things. We don't pay Ebay any money at all to buy our shipping from them. That is something that is between Ebay and the shipper, just as it is on all other sites that sell online shipping.
If you feel that giving us the computer software to purchase shipping labels and have the tracking numbers auto upload has not value. The just don't buy your shipping on Ebay. There is no rule that requires it.
Those fees are called money processing fees - previously PayPal was the money processor, they collected 2.9% + 30 cents of every penny they processed for each transaction now eBay via with Managed Payments and an agreement with Ayden is the money processor. Ayden wants $ for their efforts for certain just like PayPal did.
There was a time when American Express was the only credit card company that charged a processing fee. Many business would not accept AX cards for that reason. Soon Master Card & Visa joined in the fee charge program -price of items went up and AX was accepted around the world. Life Is Good.
I do not buy my shipping labels from eBay. I have no idea what you are talking about regarding my complaint. You seem to be completely lost on the point I am making.
I'm fine, but thank you for your concern.
The money processing fee is in the % we pay for the FVF. I know that! It should only be applied to the sale of the item. Period. The S/H funds are to pay for the shipping cost. Everything you commented on was not relevant to what I'm talking about.
Why? I respect your opinion, but no other Money Processor does it that way, why would you think Ebay should?
If a buyer pays me $20 for S/H & I pay $20 to the PO, why should eBay get almost $3.00 of that $20???
It is up to the seller if they give the discount given for shipping back to the buyer. It is also a decision by the seller if they are going to charge a reasonable handling fee. Each seller makes these decisions for themselves, usually knowing what the rules are for how FVFs are applied.
Now it takes $3 out of my pocket to ship.
Well that is completely up to the seller. If a seller chooses to charge the buyer the exact amount the seller pays for shipping and does not charge a reasonable handling fee, then that seller should be adding into the basic cost of the product being sold the costs of the FVF on shipping and shipping supplies. Then they develop the price they need to sell the product for covering ALL their costs plus profit.
The seller is in control of this.
As far as I'm concerned, adding that fee to the buyer's cost will also damage sales because buyers do not want to pay an inflated price for shipping. It is already too expensive.
I know there are some sellers here just selling for the fun of it. But most are likely trying to make money. And if you don't cover your costs, you can't/won't make money. That of course is completely your choice and you have every right to make that choice. But there is NOTHING wrong with sellers that don't agree with the way you price your items.
Each seller makes these decisions. Each seller will find out in time if their items sell or not. Each seller will eventually find what works for them.
@sakic92710 wrote:Fine. Then I'll give eBay the 2.9% of the S/H funds I receive instead of the exuberant 13.25% they take from it. 🙂
Actually I think this is a valid point. In August of 2020 Ebay went to a Simplified Fee for Managed Payments. That means instead of two different fees, one for money processing and a different one for the Selling fees, they combined them into one fee.
In doing that, Ebay makes more money. No other site does this like Ebay. What this means is that we no longer pay just a money processing fee on the amount of money a buyer pays, we also pay the selling fees on that same amount.
No other site other than Ebay applies their selling fees to sales tax. So on the sales tax portion of a sale we pay 13.25% on that tax instead of 2.9%. That is the difference.
We have paid the FVF on shipping for 13 years. And most if not all similar sites also charge their selling fees and money processing fees on shipping.
