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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.

My searches that I get emails for don't show me the listings that have rolled over with GTC.  I have searches set up so that I can see what has been listed in the categories I sell.  My listings aren't showing up in those emails when they relist.

How can GTC give us more exposure, when people searching for items don't see that those listings are once again relisted.  

Does a price have to change to get exposure in those search emails?


Is there another reason why they aren't getting in those emails?

Do I have to end the items and relist to get them back in the search emails?

Would like to know what the solution is. 

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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.

When a GTC listing rolls over, that is not a relist.  It's a continuation of an existing listing. The listing number and the start date are the same.  

 

As a potential buyer, I sort my search results according to "Newest first."  It's annoying to have relisted auctions showing up week after week; if rolled-over GTC listings were added to that mix, it would be just intolerable.   When I sort by "newest first," I don't want to be shown a listing that's actually 31 days old, or even longer.  What I'd like is an option to exclude auctions that are relist, so I can se only the really new listings!

 

On the other hand, a sort by "Ending soonest" does sort GTC's according to their next rollover date, so a listing will gradually rise in that sort.

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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.

But all listings aren't seen all the time, even if they have been in an email.  People delete emails without looking at them.  Not everyone uses Newest First.  I search by Price and Shipping Lowest First.  I'm talking about the emails I receive, not general searching.  How are we go get more exposure if it never brought back up?

Does Google searches do this also.  Consider a GTC listing as old and doesn't get rotated in the search?  What exposure are we truly getting with GTC?  My stuff has been dead for a week now. 

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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.

How are we go get more exposure if it never brought back up?

 

I don't know anything about email searches........but I know I've sold a number of year old (or more) GTC listings in the last several months.....so even if those items are left out of emails after one exposure, GTC items still sell.....

 

As proven by your manner of searching and Perfect's observation....there are many ways of searching and just because items are left out of one or more ways of finding stuff, the opportunity is certainly still there to sell the items.  Plus you have 1000's of new buyers and buyers looking for "new" (to them) items.....

 

Tho I'm not a big buyer......I agree that if items that have been rejected by me, as buyer, are continually shown to me, probably no reason I'm going to buy that item.......

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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.



Do I have to end the items and relist to get them back in the search emails?

I assume when you say "get them back into search emails", you really mean "get them back into search emails for users who have already received them in a search email".

 

Because as someone with 100+ saved searches, my experience is that once a listing has been sent to a user in a search email, it will not appear in future search emails for that user unless it is listed with a new listing ID.

 

But all listings aren't seen all the time, even if they have been in an email.  People delete emails without looking at them. 

That may be true. But as someone with 100+ saved searches, sellers should have as little control as possible when it comes to spamming me with the same listing multiple tines. 

 

Would like to know what the solution is. 

So it sounds to me like you want the benefits of a "new" listing when it comes to search emails, but you also want to retain all of the benefits of a GTC listing when it comes to watchers, sales history, etc. Because otherwise, you would just end them and relist them. 

 

IMHO eBay should not let you drink from both those wells simultaneously. 

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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.

I don't  like GTC.  never did and don't believe that there is more exposure with it.  GTC just keeps shoving the listing to the bottom of the pile where people never see it.   I guess to get it back to new the only solution to a new listing is to end the listing, and sell similar.  

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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.


@drusalina wrote:

I don't  like GTC.  never did and don't believe that there is more exposure with it.  GTC just keeps shoving the listing to the bottom of the pile where people never see it. 


If your definition of "exposure" is limited to users who are searching the eBay site directly, I would say you are correct. But I think one of the reasons eBay pushed GTC was about getting more Google exposure, not just exposure in eBay searches. 

 

But I also recognize that the move to force GTC was also are about revenue for eBay, not exposure for sellers. Wall Street prefers predictable recurring revenue over one-time revenue, which I'm sure is why eBay is pushing store subscriptions and GTC. 

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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.


@drusalina wrote:

I don't  like GTC.  never did and don't believe that there is more exposure with it.  GTC just keeps shoving the listing to the bottom of the pile where people never see it.   I guess to get it back to new the only solution to a new listing is to end the listing, and sell similar.  


EBay puts items at the top of the list that are most likely to sell.  That's good for eBay and good for sellers.  But even a stale listing that hasn't sold for a year or more, if it is an item for which there are few listings, will show up when someone searches for that item.  Every item you, or anyone, has listed, no matter how old, can be found if the exact item is searched for, unless it is one of 100,000 such items listed, then it might be in the 37,003rd position and no one will get that far, so perhaps Goodwill is the best option.

 

List more, sell more. Goodwill that other, uh, stuff.

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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.

GTC relists aren't 'new' listings - they retain their sales history and link integrity for external (i.e., Google, Bing, etc.) searches.  The only way to get these emails is to actually end the listing yourself, then sell similar, which then breaks the external search integrity.  So, it's one or the other. I'd vote for leaving the GTC running - as mentioned above, people are coming through eBay all the time and I'd like stuff to be found off-site.  After 90 days if I have any left from a certain cycle I end them and decide what to do.

 

If you sell in a tight niche, it also frustrates potential buyers because they see the same stuff pop up over and over again when they search newly listed, which is a popular way for niche buyers to search. 


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When GTC relists it doesn't consider the listings as new in search emails.

ETA:  If you sell in a tight niche, constant relisting also frustrates potential buyers...


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