03-27-2022 03:30 PM
My buyer has opened an INR case on March 25th of which I uploaded tracking to show Item was delivered Feb 25. My funds that were put on hold were released but the case remains open. So I'm positive the case will close in my favor. Just for the heck of it I clicked on the tracking, and it shows "PACKAGE RESEARCH CASE CREATED "on March 25th.
I have never seen that before. Why did it appear and how long is it there for? Do I need to do anything?
03-27-2022 03:37 PM
Speculation.........
Package was delivered but the buyer did not receive.
On the same day they opened the eBay claim they also put in a trace with USPS.
Reasons the buyer might not have the package even though tracking shows delivered.
1 - USPS mis-delivered
2 - Package was delivered correctly then stolen
3 - Package was delivered correctly, another party at the address set it aside and forgot to ever tell the actual recipient
The USPS "research" would be retrieving the GPS information to confirm if the delivery was made at the correct location.
03-27-2022 03:41 PM
Most likely your buyer submitted a "where is my mail" notification to USPS to search this package. USPS will track, find that parcel was delivered, and close their case. This is just their internal mechanism to search. What may have happened is that buyer may have been a victim of porch pirates. At this point, you did all that you could as far as eBay is concerned, you uploaded the tracking info, and it shows that is was delivered.
The one thing that could happen, is that once eBay close the case in your favor, buyer may file against his credit card and do a chargeback.
03-27-2022 04:12 PM
Most likely your buyer submitted a "where is my mail" notification to USPS to search this package. USPS will track, find that parcel was delivered, and close their case. This is just their internal mechanism to search. What may have happened is that buyer may have been a victim of porch pirates. At this point, you did all that you could as far as eBay is concerned, you uploaded the tracking info, and it shows that is was delivered.
The one thing that could happen, is that once eBay close the case in your favor, buyer may file against his credit card and do a chargeback.
With regards to the chargeback if the buyer has already filed an eBay case and lost if eBay stands behind it's policy the seller is protected from a subsequent chargeback. EBay may elect to refund the buyer but not at the sellers expense.
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-policies/payment-dispute-seller-protections?id=5293
03-27-2022 04:28 PM
@slippinjimmy wrote:Speculation.........
Package was delivered but the buyer did not receive.
On the same day they opened the eBay claim they also put in a trace with USPS.
Reasons the buyer might not have the package even though tracking shows delivered.
1 - USPS mis-delivered
2 - Package was delivered correctly then stolen
3 - Package was delivered correctly, another party at the address set it aside and forgot to ever tell the actual recipient
The USPS "research" would be retrieving the GPS information to confirm if the delivery was made at the correct location.
That is correct - DH worked as a CCA for almost a year and they scan the parcel at the time of delivery and it captures the data/info. Doesn't tell them "where" at that location they left the parcel, but it does show date/time/where.
03-27-2022 04:44 PM
I've had many of them. Usually initiated by me, but since you didn't call to open it, likely your buyer did. It's what the USPS opens when a pkg is missing. It's usually good news since they often shake the pkg loose.
03-27-2022 08:53 PM
This is what happens when you suspect a package is missing, and open a case with the USPS. I've done it multiple times, and it actually seems to speed things up with packages that seem stuck.
If a package isn't delivered by the expected date, you can go to their website and file a missing package case. Once they receive that, your tracking info in Ebay will read "Package Research Case Created".
03-27-2022 09:16 PM
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:I've had many of them. Usually initiated by me, but since you didn't call to open it, likely your buyer did. It's what the USPS opens when a pkg is missing. It's usually good news since they often shake the pkg loose.
In this case, the OP says that the tracking shows as Delivered, not missing. There's nothing to stop the buyer from opening a case on the USPS site, but the USPS can certainly slam it shut again once they look at their own tracking data.
I don't think the buyer's USPS Package Research case is going to have any effect on the eBay sale or the INR dispute, which I would expect to see closed shortly, as the OP says that the tracking has been uploaded to the dispute, and the Delivered scan from Feb. 25 should be showing in the log.
03-28-2022 12:39 AM
@a_c_green wrote:
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:I've had many of them. Usually initiated by me, but since you didn't call to open it, likely your buyer did. It's what the USPS opens when a pkg is missing. It's usually good news since they often shake the pkg loose.
In this case, the OP says that the tracking shows as Delivered, not missing. There's nothing to stop the buyer from opening a case on the USPS site, but the USPS can certainly slam it shut again once they look at their own tracking data.
I don't think the buyer's USPS Package Research case is going to have any effect on the eBay sale or the INR dispute, which I would expect to see closed shortly, as the OP says that the tracking has been uploaded to the dispute, and the Delivered scan from Feb. 25 should be showing in the log.
@a_c_green Yes. I understand that. Just b/c the USPS says it's delivered, doesn't mean it's delivered to the correct person. I see it constantly, in my own subdivision. Constant misdeliveries, esp with cluster mailboxes & run into it at least once a month with my buyers. So it IS still missing as far as the buyer is concerned.
I don't think it will have an effect on the INR case either. Did I say that? I simply think the item was misdelivered & the buyer is doing the right thing to get their own pkg to them. The USPS can often further track a delivery using their GPS data. Just b/c a seller wins their INR case does not mean the pkg was actually delivered to where it was supposed to go. Misdeliveries are rampant.
03-28-2022 03:33 AM
I've opened a few of these through USPS and it has always worked and they eventually find it. It starts at the post office of the city it should have been delivered to and they work their way backwards. Real postal employees do the legwork.
I'm not saying that it will be successful with you, but they have never failed finding a package that is buried or slowed down (like stuck at the Media facility in Pennsylvania) somewhere for me.
Fingers crossed......
03-28-2022 09:09 AM
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:
@a_c_green Yes. I understand that. Just b/c the USPS says it's delivered, doesn't mean it's delivered to the correct person. I see it constantly, in my own subdivision. Constant misdeliveries, esp with cluster mailboxes & run into it at least once a month with my buyers. So it IS still missing as far as the buyer is concerned.
Yes indeed, although without some specific prodding to check their GPS data, it will not surprise me if the USPS closes it by simply pointing to the Delivered scan and concluding that it must have been stolen off the porch.
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:
I don't think it will have an effect on the INR case either. Did I say that? I simply think the item was misdelivered & the buyer is doing the right thing to get their own pkg to them.
Right; I was just generally observing that whatever the USPS does at this point, it is not likely to affect the outcome of the INR dispute that has already occurred. According to the OP, the funds on hold have now been released. The case remains open (this again is according to the OP), but unless the Delivered scan has been removed from the package tracking log, I don't think the presence of the Package Research Case Created entry, or its eventual aftermath, will have any effect on the INR. I hope I'm not wrong on that.
03-28-2022 09:39 AM
Postal speak for it's missing and we don't know where to even look.
Package research case created” is a term used in USPS tracking when someone reports a package missing (usually when it’s “stuck” at the sort center)
03-28-2022 11:48 AM
@a_c_green wrote:
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:
@a_c_green Yes. I understand that. Just b/c the USPS says it's delivered, doesn't mean it's delivered to the correct person. I see it constantly, in my own subdivision. Constant misdeliveries, esp with cluster mailboxes & run into it at least once a month with my buyers. So it IS still missing as far as the buyer is concerned.Yes indeed, although without some specific prodding to check their GPS data, it will not surprise me if the USPS closes it by simply pointing to the Delivered scan and concluding that it must have been stolen off the porch.
@simply-the-best-for-you wrote:
I don't think it will have an effect on the INR case either. Did I say that? I simply think the item was misdelivered & the buyer is doing the right thing to get their own pkg to them.Right; I was just generally observing that whatever the USPS does at this point, it is not likely to affect the outcome of the INR dispute that has already occurred. According to the OP, the funds on hold have now been released. The case remains open (this again is according to the OP), but unless the Delivered scan has been removed from the package tracking log, I don't think the presence of the Package Research Case Created entry, or its eventual aftermath, will have any effect on the INR. I hope I'm not wrong on that.
I think we're in agreement with the exception that I would presume the buyer told USPS it's marked as delivered, so they will I hope automatically check GPS data. Who knows what the buyer did though. ITA that it won't affect the INR at all. It's the one place where sellers have protection. Even when the item wasn't delivered to the right location.
Also, I really wonder how much GPS would help if it was cluster boxes, which is where many of the misdeliveries happen. GPS would indicate they were at the right (or wrong) set of cluster, but if it's anything like mine, there are approx 80-100 slots in just the first set of clusters & GPS can't really pinpoint which slot the pkg was delivered in.
03-31-2022 08:51 AM
This topic is now moot as the INR closed in my favor after I escalated this morning. The package research never closed so it has nothing at all to do with the INR case.
Thanks for all the responses.