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What are your numbers ?

With all the people who come here saying Ebay is dying just curious to show it is not necessarily true. I know many including myself use posting i.d.'s, but what are your 90 day totals. Obviously it is different for everyone but in my case, I sell in around a dozen different collectable categories which helps my sales. Those only in clothes, jewelry, etc. obviously will have lower numbers.

 

90 Day Total:  212 Active  143 Sold

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I'm always more than happy to share my numbers. Every time I do my numbers, I end up making a lot more than I would at a regular job and most importantly(for me anyway) I have freedom of time to do whatever I want when I want without anyone telling me that I can't.

 

eBay takes up maybe 25 hours a week of my time.

 

Regardless of what I can prove or show to anyone, nobody will every believe, like yourself so I try not to waste to much time on that because I could really care less about what other people think. Making money selling $10-$20 items isn't that hard either. My average cogs is $5.41 and I still manage to make between $8-$15 profit per item selling on average 14/day right now and is only going up. Average revenue per day is $323.11 at a 40% GPM, $129.24/day profit pre tax. At the end of the month, as of right now, I make about $3200 or close to $50/hour, calculating this month hours thus far. Most of my time is spend sourcing the items. Taking photos and actually listing doesn't take that long once you have your processes down. At my current rate that number is going to be closer to 7k-8k mark by end of year and continue to go up.

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How many listed verses sold is a very inexperienced way of looking at your business.  It means nothing really. It only shows how many widgets moved as opposed to those offered for sale. An important metric in the pie, yes, but only a small SLICE of the pie.

 

AS others have pointed out, profit is what the major slice of the pie is. If someone is making a 130 dollars a day "profit" that's not really much money. It's a wage you can easily earn working for someone else. The hard fact is MOST sellers are not calculating their time right. I would venture to say that they only actually account for 50-75 percent of their actual time worked on the business. 

 

McDonalds pays 15 bucks an hour. That's $120 a DAY. A factory job can easily pay $20 an hour, which is $160 a day. Both of these jobs offer BENEFITS which have value as well. 

 

People back slapping themselves over the crumbs they get, are hilarious. It's obvious they have no real concept of money or how to make money. And they sure don't have a true handle on their numbers. I wonder, if they were paying someone to work for them, if they would be better at numbers?  Labor is the biggest expense for any employer. Every employer I have ever known, is laser focused on those numbers. 

 

This whole discussion makes me shake my head. How many here ACTUALLY run a business? How many here ACTUALLY are full time self employed? I am one who IS full time self employed and I know you can't play creative accounting to make yourself feel good. If I don't make money, I don't eat or have the ability to pay bills.  I have to be REAL about my time and all my business financials. If I were only making say, 150 a day, I would be getting a JOB. The pay and the benefits would be FAR better working for someone else. 

 

A hundred dollar bill is NOT much money anymore. The $100 bill is about as valuable as a $20 bill was 20 years ago. People do not start a business to be in and enjoy poverty.... Though I would have to question that, given some of the responses I have seen. Maybe some people do enjoy not having money.

 

The folks that want to "play" business owner, are different than ACTUAL business owners. A hobby is not really a business. 

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@coolections wrote:

 what are your 90 day totals.


I measure my success by calculating my net profit (after all expenses, including cost of goods sold) as an "hourly wage" based on the time I spend selling. 

 

To me, that is the only measure of whether eBay works for me

 

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I sent six boxes last week. 

Just my Two Cents...
Thank you for being here!
Penny
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@inhawaii wrote:

@sin-n-dex wrote:

90 Day total:

12K Active (I am not checking exactly...)

1862 Sold

 

C.


No need to brag!    😉

What are you going to do with all that money?

Trip to Hawaii?


We will go to Hawaii one of these days... I haven't been since 1989.

 

Don't get too excited about 12K listings, about 5K are just postcards. Part of what's selling to make my sales numbers look big is the weekly token auctions that the regulars bid on, and that's around 90 items a week (when running).

 

C.

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McDonalds pays 15 bucks an hour. That's $120 a DAY. A factory job can easily pay $20 an hour, which is $160 a day. Both of these jobs offer BENEFITS which have value as well. 


Yes, BUT you have to show up when they tell you to show up and work for as long as they tell you to work in order to make that money. If someone can make a comparable amount for less time invested per day while working whatever hours they choose to work, how is that not a better option?

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     Not really sure how to provide a "active" number since I use the auction format almost exclusively and the number of active listings I have at any given point in time varies. As for sold 17 but that too probably means little since I was on an extended 6 week vacation to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Sweden, Finland, Norway and Iceland mostly chasing the northern lights. Which we found. 

 

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As others have said, those numbers are not important at all.  The only important number is NET PROFIT.  Who cares if it took 1 item or 100 items.   These are certainly NOT the 90 Day Totals I expected to see in this thread, as they don't matter, except for STR.   

This one goes to Eleven - Nigel Tufnel

Simply-the-best-for-you Volunteer Community Mentor
eBay Seller since 1996

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There is a frequently misunderstood difference between  items shopped for by searching, and items shopped for via browsing.  The brand name clothing sales are more search driven, but collectibles are more driven by browsing.  Browsing works a lot better in a brick & mortar setting than online.  I have always wondered if there was some way to address that via creative site design.

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Are you comparing currently active listings count to 90 day sales count?

In that case yay we have 409 currently up and sold 287..

But in the real real we have had 400-500 every 30 days of the 90 days and still 287 sold.

Must be buy it now talk going on here..maybe 5

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@farmalljr wrote:

 

McDonalds pays 15 bucks an hour. That's $120 a DAY. A factory job can easily pay $20 an hour, which is $160 a day. Both of these jobs offer BENEFITS which have value as well. 


Yes, BUT you have to show up when they tell you to show up and work for as long as they tell you to work in order to make that money. If someone can make a comparable amount for less time invested per day while working whatever hours they choose to work, how is that not a better option?


Somehow you think eBay is different? You need CONSISTANCY to have any level of success here. 

 

That means sourcing a certain amount of items weekly, photoing and listing them, shipping on time, ect. This means you need to keep regular hours. This means you need to do X work every day, and it needs to be at a consistent time period of the day. If you bounce around, eBay isn't going to reward you.....

 

You are STILL doing what eBay TELLS you to do, just like a boss who would pay you a consistent paycheck and offer you benefits. The idea that the world works "whenever I feel like it" is a silly notion. No job works like that. No business operates like that. 

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The Rah rahs posting to reassure themselves that everything is still OK, and ebay will continue forever.

Soon it will be Just them posting and patting each other on the back...

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All things considered - I'm winding down on ebay since it has virtually no traffic like it used to. 90 day total: 12 sold - 70 active. A year ago - 90 day total: 52 sold - 187 active. 2 years ago - 90day total: 51 sold - 261 active.

 

Post pandemic ebay is returning to where it was heading - a dying format more interested in harvesting upon the corpse of itself for profits than rejuvenating the community. The recession & depression heading our way will hopefully spark new & exciting opportunities for us all.

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I'm always more than happy to share my numbers. Every time I do my numbers, I end up making a lot more than I would at a regular job and most importantly(for me anyway) I have freedom of time to do whatever I want when I want without anyone telling me that I can't.

 

eBay takes up maybe 25 hours a week of my time.

 

Regardless of what I can prove or show to anyone, nobody will every believe, like yourself so I try not to waste to much time on that because I could really care less about what other people think. Making money selling $10-$20 items isn't that hard either. My average cogs is $5.41 and I still manage to make between $8-$15 profit per item selling on average 14/day right now and is only going up. Average revenue per day is $323.11 at a 40% GPM, $129.24/day profit pre tax. At the end of the month, as of right now, I make about $3200 or close to $50/hour, calculating this month hours thus far. Most of my time is spend sourcing the items. Taking photos and actually listing doesn't take that long once you have your processes down. At my current rate that number is going to be closer to 7k-8k mark by end of year and continue to go up.


I looked at this when you posted it and left it alone knowing these numbers weren't right - Something I read in another post brought it back to mind and made me come back to it:

 

I remembered your statement of "eBay takes up maybe 25 hours a week of my time - I have freedom of time to do whatever I want when I want without anyone telling me that I can't." I knew it wasnt right when I saw it, and again, just left it alone, but it didnt sit well with me...

 

So after reading this other post, I decided to do some quick calculations regarding your statement that you "sold 1988 items in 90 days" in an earlier post on the same thread - Now, just in accounting for the time to list and ship 1988 items (assuming you are working alone and considering just the time to lay items out to take pictures, remove spots and/or lint, measure, create a listing, store the item, retrieve the item, print & ship, plus minor variables) one could very conservatively consider an average of 20 min per sale to do that, which is 3 units per hour.

 

If you take 1988 sales and divide it by 90, that amounts to approximately 22 sales a day  - 3 sales on avg per hour amounts to 440 minutes to list and ship 22 sales which is over 7 hours per day 7 days a week - Thats 49 hours per week...

 

Lets say you are fast and you can list and ship on avg in 15 min per sale(4 per hour) which amounts to 5.5 hours per day, 7 days a week - Thats 38.5 hours per week...

 

Now, thats not even accounting for the time it takes you to source your items, which by your own admission is the most time consuming thing of all - It also doesnt account for your travel time to and from your sourcing locations, your time to and from the post office, your time fixing the printer, your time answering questions, your time setting up promotions, your time revising listings & marking down, your time accounting, your time ordering supplies, your time dealing with returns and after-sale issues etc etc etc etc.

 

And then I look at your average COGS per sale of $5.41? With your 10+% Promotions(which you mentioned is your normal promotion rate in another thread) on top of the already high FVF on the entire sale, my guess is you are paying close to $5.00 in ebay fees alone on average per item - That leaves me wondering where the purchase price of your item is in that $5.41? - It leaves me wondering where the price of gas is, the cost for storage, office supplies, shipping material, wear and tear on assets, TAXES, etc etc etc etc, let alone Health Insurance which runs most single people $300 to $600 a month...

 

Here's my guess - My guess is I cleared more money than you working 20 hours a week for UPS with full health insurance, a generous 401K and 3 weeks paid vacation than you did struggling to jump through the fiery hoops of selling here - My guess also is that I made more than 80% of the full time sellers who struggle here working 25 to 60 hours a week - And Me? I truly did have the time to do what I want, when I want - I also had the peace of mind that my business wasnt at the mercy of the next bad company decision, or the next thief or scammer - Here is a title of a thread you started back in 2020 - "Sales have dropped off/come to a screaming hault since beginning of month & getting very worried" - I dont see that peace of mind you eagerly promote in the post I'm responding to in that thread - And guess what, there is no telling when you may need to post something just like that again - could be right around the corner...

 

Really after all is said and done, my point is not to hit you up for what you wrote, but more so to show that a huge percentage of sellers here dont account for their time or their expenses properly and if they did, they likely would be doing something else - Like getting a job - So if I've offended you, my apologies...

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@kalyoth wrote:

All things considered - I'm winding down on ebay since it has virtually no traffic like it used to. 90 day total: 12 sold - 70 active. A year ago - 90 day total: 52 sold - 187 active. 2 years ago - 90day total: 51 sold - 261 active.

 

Post pandemic ebay is returning to where it was heading - a dying format more interested in harvesting upon the corpse of itself for profits than rejuvenating the community. The recession & depression heading our way will hopefully spark new & exciting opportunities for us all.


Sobering and realistic for a lot of sellers

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