mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
Look Out. Things could get far worse before things get better about getting our packages delivered.
Doge is slated to fire 10,000 postal employees. It is unclear as to what positions or when this would start happening. This is likely to be a significant issue for all us sellers that use USPS as our carriers.
Here are some links to various articles about this subject. I gave a variety as I know some have a preference as to where they get their news from.
https://www.newsweek.com/how-usps-layoffs-could-impact-mail-deliveries-2044678
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/13/us/politics/postal-service-musk-doge.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/usps-signs-agreement-doge-agrees-081008330.html
https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/03/doge-work-usps-find-efficiencies-dejoy-says/403739/
@chilie68 wrote:Another interesting fact to go along with the discussion of eliminating 10,000 employees and how that will affect us is the USPS reported for FY 2024 a NET LOSS of 9.5 Billion. 6.5 Billion in FY 2023. Sounds like they need someone's help!
That is how it has been for a very long time. The losses have been much higher than that in other years.
The question that I posed was not how these layoffs affect the USPS financially but how they affect the services they provide.
@chevymontecarlo88 wrote:
@inhawaii wrote:
@chevymontecarlo88 wrote:
@inhawaii wrote:
@tarotfindsandmore wrote:I'm looking forward to this.
You're looking forward to this even though you have no idea what the changes will be and how it will affect the general public, you and your business. How intelligent.
I am glad you edited the response, but those types of comments are the reasons why threads get locked or removed. Your better than that @inhawaii and you don't have to agree with @tarotfindsandmore opinion. Like it or not they do have the experience and do make a compelling argument.
Maybe sellers need to choose a different shipping company if it is as dire as the OP is suggesting. YMMV
You are absolutely right.
I just had to argue my point against someone who is looking forward to the changes when they have no idea what those changes will be or how they will effect ebay sellers.
In fairness the changes have not been implemented and may not, so it does go both ways. @mam98031 had framed this as fact when it is just more hearsay.
It's the name calling that should be left out.
You are misrepresenting what I said, yet again and I gave everyone plenty of links to different outlets stories on the subject so there was some different points of view on the subject. I don't want to fight with you as it is simply non productive. Form you own opinion and don't worry about mine.
@carlmarxx wrote:What happen to No USPS delivery's on Saturday's that had been talked about back 2002 right after Both controlled GOP houses and signed by GW that forced USPS retirement funding for employees not born .
Congress stopped requiring USPS to fund the retirement fund for potential employees not yet born a few years back. I have no idea as to why that took them so long unless the Congress was borrowing from that fund.
Saturday deliveries is an interesting question. There are real pros and cons to that. Especially for those that get their meds through the mail or their SS checks or other retirement checks.
@stainlessenginecovers wrote:Ridiculous-
1st, USPS employees are NOT federal employees (paid by the Fed Gov) so DOGE can't do anything.
Per the 'reuters' article, as example:
USPS, an independent government agency with 635,000 employees that lost $9.5 billion last year, has been exempt from DOGE-directed federal employee reductions.
The story is 10k being asked to retire because Dejoy is trying to make USPS profitable.
Lastly, 10,000 out of 655,000 employees is a TINY drop in the bucket. With all the new 'sorting machines' they are able to do this.
Those 10k are NOT foot soldiers delivering.
So, let's stop the 'sky is falling' stuff...huh??
USPS is a Federal Agency and the employees are Federal Employees.
I Don't think most posters are acting as if the "sky is falling". Most are trying to have a civil conversation.
@tarotfindsandmore wrote:🤣🤣🤣 A court ruling is a decision based on a judge's OPINION, and that my friend is why they are subject to appeal....which is precisely what is happening with these brilliant decisions you all are referencing.
Just because a Judge's ruling can be appealed doesn't mean it will get reversed. It ONLY means that it can be appealed to a higher court. That is the way the Justice system is structured all the way up to SCOTUS.
Are you also of the opinion that when SCOTUS makes a ruling that it is merely an opinion?
@kds99 wrote:Yes, given that USPS delivers about 348,767,123 mail-pieces a day, I personally have seen VERY few failures. It's really quite amazing.
I agree. I've been very happy with the service I get from them. There will always be exceptions and issues that come up along the way. But the vast majority of my shipments get to my buyers safe and sound.
@ekmadonna wrote:"But if you need to have another thing on your list of worries, that is totally up to you. It helps no one and least of all yourself" Might want to take your own advice! Your post is nothing but Projecting Negativity.
You have every right to take it that way. But it was meant to be informative, especially for those that did not know this was on the table. Personally I think it will work out. Likely most of the layoffs will come from people retiring early. Still they do have serious issues at some sorting centers that has nothing to do with these pending layoffs.
As I've said many times, you may have missed it, USPS does a great job for me. The vast majority of what I ship gets to my customers just fine. I don't just sell here on Ebay either.
@richard1rst wrote:
@kds99 wrote:In my experience, the assumption that private entities can be more efficient than government entities is not well founded. I have in my government career seen extensive detailed analyses which proved very significant increased cost of contracting out government work. The simple need to factor in profit for the contractor is a starting point for consideration but that's just one item. Are there exceptions? Possibly. Why don't we hear about the higher cost of "contracting out"? Because it's a sensitive topic and not popular.
Then how is that UPS, FedEx, DHL, Asendia, et al make a profit while the USPS is constantly losing money (hint hint USPS objectives are politically motivated not business oriented)
Surely you have seen the reports on the fraud, abuse and corruption that DOGE has exposed in various government agencies. No private business could tolerate that AND continue to exist. Surely you remember Enron, Solyndra and others that collapsed almost immediately because they were funded and run by politicians not business men.
That is not quite an even comparison. USPS handles letters, magazines, flyers, newspapers, etc. etc. The other companies you are calling out do not. It is simply more complicated than that.
@richard1rst wrote:
@chapeau-noir wrote:
As well, the opinion needs to be grounded in the law. We are still, God save us, a country of laws.I am reminded of a quote by Frank Zappa:
The United States is a country of laws - badly written and randomly enforced.
This is a wonderful country and I feel very blessed to live here. Is there room for improvement, absolutely. Still the USA is like no other country and I love my freedoms, even though they are getting a little more challenged now. But we will get through all of this.
