Ty beanie boo manufacture errors question

[crystals1953]

Just a question i need an answer to.  Can a seller sell a TY beanie baby product they know that it is a manufacture error but they dont list it as such and they list it as new because its not been played with.?   The swing tags were removed and tush tags cut off but the seller is listing them like i said as new and no mention they are manufacture errors although it does state no swing tag or tush tag in their listing description.  And selling them as a regular price.  Can a seller do this?    I am not the seller but the buyer.

[city*satins]

Its nobodies  business what my intent was on buying them. That is not the issue.

You're right it's not.  Lots of resellers scout out deals on eBay. I do it myself. I look for things that don't come up in normal searches because sellers have trouble reading the designer label or misspell it AND offer it at a price I can flip it for a profit.   There's no problem with that.

For instance - I buy an item listed cheap as BANDAGE DRESS  with no pic of the label, in the Herve Leger style, thinking its a Herve Leger dress and get it and find it really has no label and despite it having the correct RN# I can't prove for sure that it's  an authentic dress vs a really good copy of the designer I hope it is.   Do I now gripe that this is the seller's fault for not listing it as HERVE LEGER BANDAGE DRESS, which I thought it was all along and the seller might as well but being unsure did not use the designer name in the listing.   Hey, I win some I lose some but that's on me.  I can't relist it for any more money than I bought it.  I gambled. This time I lost. So it goes.  I move on.

So it's not the intent that's the issue so much as what happens afterward that's the issue.

I'm sure the seller has found it stimulating corresponding with you.

[crystals1953]

With your attitude no wonder buyers dont trust sellers.  Now your just attacking and being a bully and this is allowed on this forum?  As for the seller and i, i told her what happen and i would be returning them case close.  There was no other conversation not that that is any of your business.   Again you are putting accusations out there to make me look like the bad guy why?  I did nothing wrong. Your not going to ruin my day if that was your intent.  

[city*satins]

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You are misunderstanding. It is not what you are saying.  And who said anything about me selling them? I didnt say anything like that.  these are for my own personal collection.  I collect odditys errors prototypes ect.  Whats the use, you dont know me and yet your very hostile and questioning my character.   The seller told me later when i ask them about the tampering that these were manufacturer errors themselves.  They stated this not me.   I only wanted to know should that be disclosed on their listing as such. That was all my question was about.   How much more simple can i make this.   Regards

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@You talked about resale value when you wrote:

Sending them in for authentication can legitimized them and they can be sold as authentic odditys/ errors  but in this case there was evidence of tampering to make it LOOK like they could have more value so they are worth nothing and cannot be resold as a authentic error or oddity.  Hope this makes sense.

As for the rest of it, I don't know you well enough to besmirch your character.  I'm only trying to understand why you repeatedly complain that the seller did not list the item as a manufacturer error when you are 100% aware that it can not be verified as such.  There are a limited number of reasons I can think of. If I picked the wrong breadcrumbs up in this thread, that's unfortunate.  But when breadcrumbs are left lying around somebody's going to think a loaf of bread has been in the vicinity.

[crystals1953]

No!  I was NOT aware that it that it could not e verified as such! I learned this from authentication services.  Sheesh

[lookng2015]

I didn't even realise there were still people out there collecting these things.

[chrysylys]

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I don't know beanies but I do know my head hurts.

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I think they might make good pillows, but you might need a bunch of them.

[chrysylys]

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You are misunderstanding.

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People are confused because your first few posts were somewhat cryptic and confusing.  We didn't really know what you were asking.

[crystals1953]

Lol yes they would.  Thank you for that, i needed a little laugh.  You all take care and have a great rest of the day.

[city*satins]

I'm not going to take responsibility for anybody's day being ruined. I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm just a spectator with a fondness for the truth. I don't always get it right, but I do more often than not.

Stating facts and questioning rationale is not bullying in my opinion.  When people have the right of it, they usually don't get defensive and accuse the other party of attacking them. But everyone is different.

You talked about value. Anyone can look at your listings and see you sell beanies and are not solely a buyer of beanies.   Your complaint about what the seller should have done is illogical in and of itself as it would have exposed the seller to a charge of misrepresentation so it is reasonable to seek a rationale for wanting a seller to put something in a listing that shouldn't be there. 

[crystals1953]

Yeah well that comes from being a newbie here on the board.  Please be patient. I thought i was clear but then all these questions came up andi was trying to explain but my original question got lost in it all.  

[city*satins]

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No!  I was NOT aware that it that it could not e verified as such! I learned this from authentication services.  Sheesh

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Yes but having learned it, you have continued to complain that the seller should have stated it all the same as a manufacture error.   

[crystals1953]

What ever. You think what you want but you are wrong and you were implying i was the one deceiving. And because of your implications on my character and my motives you bet i am going to be defensive.  You were being a bully and making your accusations.   You  are illogical that you can’t grasp a simple question without going way over the mountain with your questions.   Not responding to you any more its so not worth it.  

[a_c_green]

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I didn't even realise there were still people out there collecting these things.

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Not like they used to, perhaps, but there will always be collectors for anything and everything.

My only thought on this topic is that if I came across a Beanie Baby or any similar toy with the tags cut off, I would simply assume that a parent did it after purchase. That to my mind seems a lot more likely than it being a sign of a manufacturer's defect that somehow escaped into the wild, etc. Not all of these were bought as investments; some were simply bought as toys, and of those that were, I'm sure a sizeable percentage had their tags cut off at purchase time.

Heck, for a little while some years ago, our own kids did exactly that themselves with their new stuffed toy purchases, I suspect because it was one of the few times that their parents would let them work with scissors. 

[city*satins]

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What ever. You think what you want but you are wrong and you were implying i was the one deceiving. And because of your implications on my character and my motives you bet i am going to be defensive.  You were being a bully and making your accusations.   You  are illogical that you can’t grasp a simple question without going way over the mountain with your questions.   Not responding to you any more its so not worth it.  

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What ever is always an excellent tool for rebutting anyone's question, argument, or point.

By the way, I posted a lengthy list of questions and did not get an answer to even ONE of them despite their being (in my opinion) reasonable.

[crystals1953]

Lol already been suckered in by you not going there and let you continue your rants. Have a nice day anyways