Ty beanie boo manufacture errors question

[crystals1953]

Just a question i need an answer to.  Can a seller sell a TY beanie baby product they know that it is a manufacture error but they dont list it as such and they list it as new because its not been played with.?   The swing tags were removed and tush tags cut off but the seller is listing them like i said as new and no mention they are manufacture errors although it does state no swing tag or tush tag in their listing description.  And selling them as a regular price.  Can a seller do this?    I am not the seller but the buyer.

[chrysylys]

Manufacturing errors can sometimes make things more valuable.  If the tags were left off by the maker, it could still  be 'new'.  If they were removed later by someone else, no.

[crystals1953]

Unfortunately i have found out they cannot be authenticated because there is no way to know whether the swing and tush tags were removed later.  I guess as a buyer i would want to know up front on the seller’s listing these are manufacture errors or rejects.   Someone told me TY would not allow these to be resold.  Anyways someone did literally cut the tush tags and removed the swing tags, when and where is the question but the fact is the seller said nothing about these were manufactor errors so as a buyer i learned something new. Lesson learned. Thanks for your response!

[chrysylys]

Your posts are not very clear as to the issue.

Did Ty originally distribute items without the tags in some sort of manufacturing error?  If so, they have nothing to say about resales.

Or are you suspecting the seller to have removed them and claim a manufacturing error?

Or both?  Were there manufacturing errors and you suspect the seller of simulating that error in hopes of getting a better price?

[crystals1953]

 No what i am asking bottom line question is if the seller KNOWS these are manufacture errors but do not state that on their listing so the buyer knows what they are buying, can the seller leave that particular information out?  Are they obligated to let the buyer know that these are manufacturer errors?  That is my question.  That is all i was asking.  If they don’t have to then its buyer beware.  Sorry was not trying to be confusing at all.

[jamehewlet_1]

If the seller knows about a flaw, they are obligated to disclose it. However, the seller may not know

[crystals1953]

Ok thank you that is what i was looking for.  They knew it was a manufacturer error but i don’t know if they knew they were suppose to disclose that.  That have over 3000 feedback so i guess i would think they do but no matter.  You answer my question and thanks for all the reponses.  They were a big help!

[roryriver]

I'm a little confused. Don't the manufacture errors usually have to do with the swing tag or tush tag? If they are gone how would anyone know if there were errors or not?

[crystals1953]

That is why i sent them in for authentication.  They could not authenticate them because there was evidence of tampering.  Someone cut the tush tags and there was evidence also the swing tags were deliberately removed by evidence of the holes found where the swing tags are attached.   I would not have know this otherwise and when I ask the seller about it, they said these are manufacturer errors but they did not state that in their listings.

[chrysylys]

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I'm a little confused.

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I'm a lot confused.  I don't understand this issue at all.  Maybe because I'm not a Beanie-file. 

Like I said, known errors on collectibles can often increase value, so why wouldn't a seller note them if known?  If it's something that poses a danger or risk, it can make the item subject to recall and un-sellable however.

[chrysylys]

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That is why i sent them in for authentication.  They could not authenticate them because there was evidence of tampering.  Someone cut the tush tags and there was evidence also the swing tags were deliberately removed by evidence of the holes found where the swing tags are attached.   I would not have know this otherwise and when I ask the seller about it, they said these are manufacturer errors but they did not state that in their listings.

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So, then that makes it a lie by the seller.  UNLESS they acquired them second hand and did not know whether they should be there or not.

Including that kind of information in your original post would have helped clarify your question.

[crystals1953]

Sending them in for authentication can legitimized them and they can be sold as authentic odditys/ errors  but in this case there was evidence of tampering to make it LOOK like they could have more value so they are worth nothing and cannot be resold as a authentic error or oddity.  Hope this makes sense.

[crystals1953]

Sorry but i did include some of that in my original post not everything i should have but Anyways i got my question answered.

[emerald40]

In the case of Beanie Babies, manufacturing errors is what made those stuffed animals more valuable.

Remember the elephant with the different colored fabric.  Or Punch the Lobster.

She is actually cheating herself if they came new out of the factory missing those tags - which is quite different than her taking scissors and cutting them off.

[emerald40]

As I continue to read -

She is probably not mentioning it as she is not sure if it was a factory error or someone cut it out afterwards.

A true Beanie Babie expert will ask.  But yes she really should have stated that in her description and taken close up photos to make for a more informed buyer.

Omission is not really being honest.