TurboLister is Retiring July 2020

[mam98031]

I just got this message and I wanted to make sure as many people see it as possible.  I'm saddened by this news as no matter what Ebay is saying, the Seller Hub does not have enough features to replace the main uses of TL.  For me I am very unhappy by this news.

Starting July 2020, we will stop supporting Turbo Lister. Downloads of the Turbo Lister listing tool in the US have not been available since 2017.

Because many eBay sellers continue to rely on Turbo Lister to list items quickly and easily, we want to give you plenty of time to transition to other listing options. We’ve already integrated many popular Turbo Lister features in Seller Hub to support you during the change.

We’re committed to providing you with the best tools and functionality possible, and we’re working diligently to develop a solution that will enable you to continue to list on eBay with maximum ease and efficiency. The new solution will offer many of the same popular Turbo Lister features and functionality, including the ability to manage and edit listings offline. We’ll let you know when it is available.

In the meantime, many Turbo Lister features are available in Seller Hub at no cost. You can bulk list, edit, and manage your listings from the Active Listings tab. You also have the option of using other eBay bulk listing tools such as File Exchange. Learn more.

We appreciate your business.
Thank you for selling on eBay.

[slippinjimmy]

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@luckythewinner wrote:

The only part that eBay would be not supporting anymore, would be the uploads and the syncs to eBay. So, you could still store your auctions, descriptions, and pictures in the TL database, and view them on your computer. But you would have to copy and paste them into new listings.

I know, this is far less convenient that just clicking the upload button and waiting while they are automatically copied to the site. I haven't listed anything for quite a while, but it always used to take minutes for an upload, for me. So I would click to start it and then go make dinner or something. 

The automatic bulk uploading is exactly the part I rely on. When I get a free listing special, I select 500 items from my inventory, and click upload all. Sure it takes a couple hours, but I can watch TV, pack items to ship, or have dinner while that happens. The actual time I spend working is about five minutes. 

Even with photos and descriptions saved locally, copying and pasting those listings - along with UPC numbers, item specifics, shipping methods, etc. - is time I am simply not willing to spend. Even at 90 seconds each, it would take more than 12 hours of constant work. That's a 14,200% increase in time spent. 

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You could still use TL to store your old listings, export to csv and upload via File Exchange. This should work until eBay restructures your category or adds new fields etc.

As others mentioned, Wonderlister at $5/month is a good option.

The $40/month I pay for SixBit is a bit excessive for the volume I do (I'm now a seasonal seller at a relatively casual level) but it saves me so much time and helps me to avoid so many of the issues I see reported daily on this board that it's well worth is. Add in 20 years of sales/buyer data at my fingertips, inventory control and almost never having to do very much directly on eBay makes it worth the cost to me.

[rarediecastmusclecars]

Typical GREEDBAY, when it come to customer service, FORGET IT.  If they can save ten cents, you can bet the ranch they will. GREEDBAY was built by the sellers, but here, like the government, the deadbeats have all the rights.  I do not list here unless the listings are free, so I suggest you do the same, and lets see what happens. 

[mam98031]

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@rarediecastmusclecars wrote:

Typical GREEDBAY, when it come to customer service, FORGET IT.  If they can save ten cents, you can bet the ranch they will. GREEDBAY was built by the sellers, but here, like the government, the deadbeats have all the rights.  I do not list here unless the listings are free, so I suggest you do the same, and lets see what happens. 

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Oh stop please.  This has nothing to do with what you describe.  TL has been free for members for many years.  The TL program is now very old and outdated.  It needs to be replaced.  Ebay has chosen not to replace it.  For many of us that is disappointing at best.

[twnpopcards]

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@mam98031 wrote:

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@rarediecastmusclecars wrote:

Typical GREEDBAY, when it come to customer service, FORGET IT.  If they can save ten cents, you can bet the ranch they will. GREEDBAY was built by the sellers, but here, like the government, the deadbeats have all the rights.  I do not list here unless the listings are free, so I suggest you do the same, and lets see what happens. 

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Oh stop please.  This has nothing to do with what you describe.  TL has been free for members for many years.  The TL program is now very old and outdated.  It needs to be replaced.  Ebay has chosen not to replace it.  For many of us that is disappointing at best.

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For once I agree with you that Ebay needs to do something about Turbo Lister.  But once again Ebay has broken a promise it made to its Sellers, that Turbo Lister would not be deactivated until Sellers Hub had all of the same functionality as T/L has.  Truthfully I am surprised that they waited this long to break their promise, but with Managed Payments coming closer and closer to reality and Ebay I am sure being no closer to being able to add all the functionality that T/L has they have decided to just cut bait and once again not care what they have promised to Sellers.  This is right in line with no major changes in the operating platform in the  4th quarter due to the havoc that pushes onto Sellers and we know how that has worked out for Sellers.  

Since Sellers Hub is required to be able to use Managed Payments they no longer have the time nor the talent to keep a promise they made at least 3 years ago.  They have had all those years to try and add those functions to Sellers Hub and now they are once again admitting failure as they need to be able to focus on Managed Payments and maybe someday even the Search Engine that is not exactly what you would consider close to the top of what it could be.

Although Ebay did get a 1 year extension with Paypal on processing for them, they are going to try and force all Sellers into the program by year end so they can start off 2021 with a clean slate and with a realistic idea of how much money they are going to be able to count on from processing all of the sales made on ebay through their new processor.  I may be very wrong but i have a funny feeling that Ebay is going to be surprised at the drop in not only the Sellers and the number of listings on their site but also at the drop in buyers wanting to give them more personal information for Ebay to sell since that is one of their largest money makers.  If I actually do continue selling on here you better believe I will have a brand new stand alone account which will have zero information me or my lifestyle other than my sales on Ebay as i will just transfer that money out to my Paypal account or withdraw the funds by check and then do what i want with them.  There will never be much money left in the account for more than a week and no additional information for them to mine and sell or give to the Chinese who they have been calling their future for many years now.  I do not believe that Ebay has a secure enough site for me to trust them with all of my personal information or financial information they are going to want.  Nor do I believe that Ebay will ever let us know when they have been hacked because of the amount of fallout the one time they did admit it.  Ebay lost all of its transparency with any of its customers (both buyers and sellers) immediately after that as everybody was horrified that Ebay had not done a better job protecting their information.

I still find it interesting that Managed Payments requires Sellers Hub but China has never had that rolled out on them.  I wonder how Ebay is going to continue working with their Chinese Partners once MP is put into place or if MP really does not require using Sellers Hub?

[jdbok]

its bad for me

I'm from the MisterLister days....

when they first announced a few years ago I tried sixbit and it was a disaster.

the architect I think used to be on the turbo lister team but complicated it so much it functions nothing like TL.

it is focused on multiples and inventory while I list one of a kind vintage across 2 platforms, etsy and eBay and use both auction and FP with daily new listings via 100+ templates and daily relists that I can track according to my own system within TL.

I don't kill but I have steady income using this business model.

6bit was relisting and ending things out of control and there was no way to work around it. The CS didn't even comprehend how vintage works. I tried a few others as well, crazy lister wonder lister--no go. If your selling 1000 Iphone skins in multiple colors its for you.

for all its glitches Turbo Lister is more robust because it is so minimal and hack-able to my own system .

why doesn't some tech nerd copy it?

I would pay anything for TL or software like it--$20 is nothing I pay $50 pr month to esa just to synch my ebay listings to etsy without cutting and pasting.

as a full time seller I don't look for free listings, I need automation and it is reasonable to make it part of overhead costs.

the hub only has 50 templates! I asked and asked if they were going to add more but there is no dialogue. I think my 15 yr old neighbor could figure the code out for that.

I don't need to hold on to drafts myself but I really feel for those who do.

Etsy still has my 1st listing pictures and all from I think 2008--ebay should be able to do at least a year.

I will give Hub another try but its just not really suitable for anything more than part time or hobby listing as far as I can see and I can't figure out how file exchange works?

has anyone found an alternative for large quantity one of a kind listing?

I never thought the day would come when my etsy sales topped ebay but that day is here and I'm not really sure what to do.

[torindy]

I'm gutted by this since I got the email yesterday.

I really have nothing of value to add other than I honestly don't know what I am going to do.  Random things sell at random times and I have about 500 auctions saved in TL.

For no apparent reason whatsoever, I had about 11 items sell in 1 day the other day.  Out of nowhere.  No rhyme or reason.  Some of them I've been holding on to for so many years that it took me a few days to find them.

The bit of income that i get from this does help and make a dent.  But now I don't know what the point of this will be.  I don't even know what my options are.  And I don't make enough to spend on another service.  

Again...just gutted.

[zamo-zuan]

To all of the TurboLister users here, might I ask all of you which are the very most important features that you will be missing most when it is gone? Are there any that you think you couldn't live without? 

We will likely be going public with our (currently in-house) software sometime this year, and I would be happy to try to integrate any of the needed features that are missing in the void left by TL. I just need to know which features are most in-demand and I could put together a plan!

[mvls1]

I would need the ability to store listings with pictures for 5 accounts, be able to move inventory from one account to another, schedule listing starts and would like to be able to list the items on multiple venues. I do not use TL but am looking into which services are available as I will be moving to one soon. Oh, I think all sellers would need the ability to get reports showing all costs/fees/sales taxes on a  monthly, quarterly and yearly basis.

[mam98031]

I think if you read through the thread that you will get the idea of what are the important issues here to many members.  I don't think having them repeat it would be necessary.

Or if you prefer, start another thread specific to your program, what it offers, etc.  As that would be very important information to share as well.  

With that said, if you want to send me the website address in a PM, I will add it to my list I posted up thread of the various alternative programs for TL.

[mvls1]

Would you mind reviewing Crazy Lister and Wonder Lister a little more? What were the short comings of each especially for one of a kind sellers using multiple venues? Thanks for your help.

[papermoneyforme]

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@mvls1 wrote:

Would you mind reviewing Crazy Lister and Wonder Lister a little more? What were the short comings of each especially for one of a kind sellers using multiple venues? Thanks for your help.

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With what you are asking for, you would be at the more expensive range for both of those and any other listing software.

[jdbok]

it was almost 3 years ago so I don't remember a lot of specifics

but there was a problem with how often I list and relist

sometimes the same thing other times a similar thing

cashmere black turtle neck size L

cashmere black turtle neck size M etc

and I don't think they could distinguish

I think they didn't really have templates it was more about coppying?

also the synchronizing was off

but I could be wrong

it just didn't work and then TL kept going so did I

they were a lot better than sixbit which was completely invasive double listing things and you can't even begin without this extensive set up

if you like tracking every expense it might be good for you

jdb

[jdbok]

I do remember thinking the prices were reasonable but I have said before I beleive in paying for functionality

[jdbok]

hey zamo z
hard to verbalize its such an automatic work flow

• it needs to work offline
• current upgrades when ebay makes changes-- not broke for 3 weeks when they redo item specifics.
• ability to schedule ebay uploads very important to all of us.
  ( if it could upload to etsy drafts a bonus, if it could schedule uploads to etsy live --pure gold!)
• the ability to make 100s of non graphic templates and keep them and copy them and edit them and search them
• synchronizing with ebay on demand--not a timed "sweep"
  every time you edit offline you then sync with ebay to make it happen.
• ability to edit live, scheduled, sold and ended listings
  the ability to search and see details in each of those categories like price, end time, watchers, notes, type, custom label
• custom label field is how I track EVERYTHING
  do you have the program?
  you should be able to see how it works pretty easily.
  a lot of folks want to save listing--thats very important
  I personally delete sold listings every few months and delete ended listings as soon as I relist them.
  it would also be worth a lot if etsy sales were synced to end ebay listings
  right now I pay a service esa $50 to sync my ebay listings and sales to list and end in etsy  but have to manually end ebay listings when they sell in etsy which can backfire if you take a day off.  the esa tool requires a pretty complicated one time "mapping" of lots of attributes and then it works on autopilot.
• one nifty thing in TL is that there is a way to have pictures reside in a folder on your computer and not bog down the program
  when they had a team it really was a marvelous tool its very rusty and wonky now but still great

[yourloislane]

Sorry, but I am not for paying anything more.  Might as well just put the stuff on the curb.