05-18-2022 04:42 PM
Please, report here if you recently within a week or so experienced sudden drop in sales. We can then ask Velvet to pass it on to technical team for review of the accounts. https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Updates-are-happening-to-some-item-specifics-and-category/m-p/...
07-14-2022 08:07 PM
add me as well! Today is 9 days in a row with nothing but crickets!
07-14-2022 08:59 PM
add me to the pretend list
07-14-2022 09:43 PM
Ebay cannot solve this issue.......There is no Ebay problem, sales have dropped across ALL platforms. Look to the current economy and try to evaluate it. Education and experience play a huge roll here.
07-15-2022 06:32 AM
My last eBay sale was on 7/7 for $15.35 incl. postage.
Am focusing selling on FB & Flea Mkt & B&M & doing odd jobs.
Hard to think I once had 3 active eBay Accts & eBay'd 7 days a week, 12 hours a day !
07-15-2022 07:46 AM - edited 07-15-2022 07:48 AM
I am honestly getting tired of people not placing any blame on eBay for some of this. Yes, I agree that a lot of this does contribute from inflation, high gas prices, groceries costing almost double at checkout, and USPS raising their prices just recently. But, eBay is also to blame here with the constant changes to the platform. We've been selling on here for 18+ years and I have not seen it this bad until the last few months. We are still getting sales, but our sales have been cut by 50% at times. We also sell on several other platforms, especially the big one across the river and they do not consistently keep making changes that get into the way of their sellers.
We have a pretty decent sized store and always rank in the top 10 within each of the categories we sell in if that tells you anything. The other day there was a nice little glitch that ran rampant for hours where there was no Organic or Promoted listings impressions appearing at all on the dashboard. They equaled to 0. That was the same day this week where a huge drop off in sales occurred. I called support and let them know, the kicker was that they told me nothing had been reported for this issue at all.
Again it is not just the economy here at hand, there are also issues with the platform and those managing it with these constant changes at a time when people are struggling out there.
I will also add @zamo-zuan here, whom also has uncovered countless of issues over the years and we have discussed to great lengths on these boards.
07-15-2022 08:33 AM
Sales have slowed way down
07-15-2022 09:58 AM
@blacktopautoparts wrote:I am honestly getting tired of people not placing any blame on eBay for some of this. Yes, I agree that a lot of this does contribute from inflation, high gas prices, groceries costing almost double at checkout, and USPS raising their prices just recently. But, eBay is also to blame here with the constant changes to the platform.
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Again it is not just the economy here at hand, there are also issues with the platform and those managing it with these constant changes at a time when people are struggling out there.
I understand and also feel your frustration.
Of course, the economy is something to take in to consideration. But it's not responsible for 100% of the blame. It's strange that many use it as a reason to dismiss eBay's part.
Whether we like it or not, eBay is in charge of the visibility of our items. It doesn't have to be a "deliberate, intentional" act as some make it sound. But there's many factors in their AI's and algorithms that could be problematic for sellers.
It's not "normal ups and downs of the economy and/or eCommerce" when you suddenly lost 50% traffic overnight. Or when your items go from the top of search results to #100 on the page overnight.
EBay tweaks things, for better or worse.
EBay also is riddled with bugs and glitches from constantly messing with things.
I've even shown recently that ORGANIC impressions are being altered by how much PROMOTED LISTING investment you're doing! This isn't "normal". This isn't even matching the definition of organic. This is a sign that either A: eBay has some major glitches in their system that are causing PL to have weight on organic impressions when they aren't (which very well might be the case with all the errors in traffic displaying organic traffic) , or B: if it's not a glitch, they are INTENTIONALLY limiting your organic visibility based upon PL investment.
I'll be honest. I'm absolutely shocked that there's almost no alarm from hearing this. Again, I won't hold anything back and I'll be 100% honest/transparent, it makes me wonder how many on here actually sell, because this is something that every seller on here should be concerned about.
Why should we care? Because not only is our organic traffic supposed to be free and based on organic rankings. But also because for this to even happen, it undeniably proves that eBay is controlling/limiting organic traffic. Which is something that many of us knew was happening for years (and some eBay reps had admit) - but some on here have been claiming that it "doesn't happen and it's just competition". Claims of it being competition doesn't fly anymore when you could increase your PL and your ORGANIC visibility increases.
So yes, the economy does play a part. But it's not only eBay receiving less buyers/less buyers spending money. The decrease in spending is a measurable percentage (that is clarified in their stock reports). 20% decreases in spending doesn't explain why sellers stores can receive 90% decreases in ORGANIC visibility unless they invest more in to PL.
07-15-2022 11:05 AM
I consistently average about 30 sales per month with a total inventory hovering around 130 items. For the last two months, my sales have dropped about 33% to about 20 sales per month. I am listing at the same rate as before and I am listing summer items, too, that normally sell.
Listed items that normally sell are not selling, even if i use a higher promotion percentage above my normal 2%, they aren't getting additional views. If an eBay employee is reading this, please take note that I've been selling on eBay for about 5 years with the normal ups and downs but with overall consistency and while I accept that peaks and valleys are the norm for any seller, I merely ask that my store lights aren't turned off mid-way through the day, especially since I've always paid my rent (fees) on time. Thanks for your consideration.
07-15-2022 11:46 AM
I always laugh when I see people on here use the economy or holidays as the problem every time someone creates these threads/posts. Sure it has an effect on sales and traffic, but is not the 100% the problem. These ups and downs that we are getting are not normal and there are no ebs and flows to any of the charting like there used to be. There are days where sales are down a good 50-60%, then we will get 1-2 days in a row with some very scary looking sales spikes. Which is good for those 1-2 days, but the rest of the week gets hammered badly.
Like you, I do feel shocked because there is so much here that I have also pointed out in the forums and even with eBay execs yet nobody does anything about it and I always see finger pointing to someone else in the company. I just think these issues will never be fixed and there is a lot done here that feel are intentional on how the system is designed.
Then add in the issue with the service metrics. I have proven time and time again with support that there is an issue in eBay motors on how these numbers are being calculated and something doesn't seem right. Yet it seems its another thing where "We Don't have enough resources" to do this and do that.
07-15-2022 01:28 PM
@blacktopautoparts wrote:I always laugh when I see people on here use the economy or holidays as the problem every time someone creates these threads/posts. Sure it has an effect on sales and traffic, but is not the 100% the problem. These ups and downs that we are getting are not normal and there are no ebs and flows to any of the charting like there used to be. There are days where sales are down a good 50-60%, then we will get 1-2 days in a row with some very scary looking sales spikes. Which is good for those 1-2 days, but the rest of the week gets hammered badly.
Like you, I do feel shocked because there is so much here that I have also pointed out in the forums and even with eBay execs yet nobody does anything about it and I always see finger pointing to someone else in the company. I just think these issues will never be fixed and there is a lot done here that feel are intentional on how the system is designed.
Then add in the issue with the service metrics. I have proven time and time again with support that there is an issue in eBay motors on how these numbers are being calculated and something doesn't seem right. Yet it seems its another thing where "We Don't have enough resources" to do this and do that.
Yup! And it's not like we can't compare to our competitors to see if they're experiencing the same thing. As well as take in considerations where certain sellers offerings are better or worse than other competitors. Many of our livelihoods depend on researching the categories we sell in.
The economy/etc are used to basically dismiss any legitimate arguments, and to accept that as an answer, it requires the presumption that those who are bringing up the issues don't know what they're doing and haven't accurately assessed the situation. Which is true sometimes. But many of us have track records, experience, and are competitive enough to be confident in our assessments.
It's not just talking about sales that sellers get - or should we say conversion rate. It's the traffic, the impressions. You can't get sales without clicks/views, and you can't get clicks/views without impressions. But once the topic is on impressions, people on here will switch from "the economy" to raise questions on your competitiveness or dismiss it as you selling in a crowded category. Those claims have been quite frustrating for us to deal with, because we're obviously competitive and can sell in a crowded category considering we have a history of performing at the top of our category. And that allows us to pinpoint these fluctuations and spot problems/changes in eBay's algorithms.
This is besides the fact that evidence has been posted here of these type of things, and while some can claim they haven't seen it, it's there for anyone to check.
Service metrics are a whole different ballgame. No transparency at all. Based on OPENED cases and not DECIDED cases is inherently unfair. And the fact that the system is 100% automated and they have NO WAY to remove penalties given in error OR remove glitched service metrics from your record? That's insanity.
We've had eBay errors where our handling time was being ignored and it was allowing buyers to open an INR before the handling time/shipping date! This showed up in the Service Metric reports, and they STILL Couldn't remove them from our record.
Another occasion, our INAD was < 1% - and it says on the same exact page that < 1% is not eligible for a penalty. This was last ~Feb/March when they changed the shipping system to say the "Arrives in 3/4 days" banner. They MISTAKENLY gave us the INAD Service Metric penalty when we were UNDER 1% - which according to the very page, and policy page, is impossible. You're not eligible if you're under 1%. But eBay CONFIRMED the penalty was on us. And we had no choice but to wait for the end of the month for it to expire, because there's no way to remove it.
It's insane to design a system that doesn't even allow the CS or Tech team to repair errors. Especially considering how glitch filled eBay is.
07-15-2022 01:31 PM
One more thing I wanted to mention.
People regularly say they get better results when they "regularly post new listings". That seems to be an accepted fact on here.
Think about that for a moment. For that to even be possible, eBay HAS to be tracking that type of thing in their AI, and either giving you more or less traffic depending on how much listing you've been doing lately.
So it's mind boggling that people can accept that you must regularly post new listings, but don't also accept that eBay is controlling sellers visibility. It's not possible for those two things to be mutually exclusive.
07-15-2022 02:08 PM - edited 07-15-2022 02:08 PM
Another update for you. Hope you're following all of the threads expressing the same problem.
My impressions are now up 24%. I had reasonably consistent sales for several days but still not back to normal. My sales are still down 34% which is better than the all time low of 68% on July 1st. All things considered the 34% down is in comparison to the last 30 days which reflects my worst month ever June.
Still hoping that things will get back to normal. Took another nosedive 2 days ago.... was hoping for a good weekend but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.... but I still hope.
Thanks for anything you and the techs can do for us!
07-15-2022 03:03 PM
@ci1000 wrote:
Another update for you. Hope you're following all of the threads expressing the same problem.
My impressions are now up 24%. I had reasonably consistent sales for several days but still not back to normal. My sales are still down 34% which is better than the all time low of 68% on July 1st. All things considered the 34% down is in comparison to the last 30 days which reflects my worst month ever June.
Still hoping that things will get back to normal. Took another nosedive 2 days ago.... was hoping for a good weekend but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.... but I still hope.
Thanks for anything you and the techs can do for us!
The thing to assess in this case is where your search placement is.
It's good to record this type of thing in to a spreadsheet regularly if you have time. Choose a specific item, and log what place you are in the search results. If you're showing up promoted or not promoted. And it's also useful to log which sellers are appearing at the top of results for organic and promoted listings.
If you do this regularly enough, you'll be able to tell immediately if eBay made any changes and assess what happened.
The reason I mention this is it sounds like if your impressions are up, but sales are down, you're probably getting more impressions (showing up on the first page of search results) but you're not as high in the list.
Also note, it could be conversion rate, but typically for that it would be good to make sure your items are sufficiently competitive. I'm presuming they're already competitive.
If this was the case (higher impressions but worse search placement) it often indicates they changed how the search targeting works. In our category, sometimes MPN is prioritized up top (so an MPN match will come up before all other results), sometimes it's looking for a full MPN match or just a partial match to the MPN. Other times, "Other part number" or "Interchange part number" might be showing equal or ahead of MPN. Other times, searching for a vehicle name will show up ahead of part numbers. And on rare occasions, a completely different item will show up instead of an engine mount (lol).
Figuring this out might help learn what they changed. You might be able to take advantage of it, you might not. Of course, it might also reveal some type of error or issue as you research it further.
Either way, I recommend starting to keep a log of statistics. Because eBay is basically never a help with visibility issues. If you get an answer from them at all, as I've covered in past topics, they will often even lie to avoid finding a clear answer to the problem.
Good luck!
07-15-2022 03:30 PM
I have 2 eBay accounts. The slow down started on Account #1 over a year ago and it has been almost dead ever since. In the meantime, Account #2 has been booming ever since Covid started -- UNTIL about 2 months ago. I no longer have the sales I was having. My views and watchers have dried up. I know for certain that something is wrong with the system. I just don't know what.
07-15-2022 10:04 PM
Kinda makes you scratch your head