04-23-2018 06:39 AM
This will be the third time I've sold this bumper: https://www.ebay.com/itm/152966975425?ViewItem=&item=152966975425&ppid=PPX000600&cnac=US&rsta=en_US(... here on Ebay over the last 2 years. The first two times they also paid with Paypal but were long distance and never came to pick up, so basically I have nothing in the part right now. This last buyer is local but paid with Paypal even though I put in the listing that Paypal is among my accepted payment options except for local pickup. So do I refund the Paypal payment now and tell him cash on pick up? Wait until he contacts me for pick up arraingments and then tell him?
04-25-2018 11:33 AM
@carlmarxx wrote:
@couldabeenworse wrote:
And Yes I have had Ebay Reps Tell to do this in the Listing ( Cash Payment's Only On Local PickUp Only!)
Yes, we have discussed before that eBay reps advised you to violate written policy. If it's working for you, it's ok by me, but it is still specifically not allowed.
It doesn't make since to take any online payments on a Local Pick up ! . In item listing payments section you can mark pay on pickup . also There is no Violation of policy since you don't have to take Online payments in ebay motors for local pickup option.
Hi @carlmarxx, eBay Motors has different payment policies and is not the topic being discussed on this thread. It does make sense to take online payments when you consider the buyer's position - paying electronically ensures they are eligible for protection if needed. The option to pay upon pickup is available if the seller would like to offer it and the buyer chooses it, but an electronic payment method must still be available and a seller cannot discourage a buyer from using this option if they would like.
04-25-2018 11:40 AM
@AnonymousIs it acceptable to put best offer on a local pickup listing and state in the listing that you are more amenable to offers if cash payment is used? That's not discouraging electronic payment, but it is offering savings to the buyer if they are comfortable with cash payment.
04-25-2018 01:07 PM
I don't believe that you are allowed to solicit cash payments.
04-25-2018 02:26 PM
@lovtaco0 wrote:
@AnonymousIs it acceptable to put best offer on a local pickup listing and state in the listing that you are more amenable to offers if cash payment is used? That's not discouraging electronic payment, but it is offering savings to the buyer if they are comfortable with cash payment.
Hi @lovtaco0, it is acceptable to indicate your preference for cash payment, you just aren't allowed to discourage electronic payments. Comments such as, "I will cancel a PayPal payment for local pickup," is not acceptable, but "Cash is preferred for local pickup and may factor into my consideration of a Best Offer" would be fine, as it is along the same lines as "I offer combined shipments and Best Offers for multiple items are encouraged"
04-25-2018 02:53 PM
@Anonymous wrote:
@carlmarxx wrote:
@couldabeenworse wrote:And Yes I have had Ebay Reps Tell to do this in the Listing ( Cash Payment's Only On Local PickUp Only!)
Yes, we have discussed before that eBay reps advised you to violate written policy. If it's working for you, it's ok by me, but it is still specifically not allowed.
It doesn't make since to take any online payments on a Local Pick up ! . In item listing payments section you can mark pay on pickup . also There is no Violation of policy since you don't have to take Online payments in ebay motors for local pickup option.
Hi @carlmarxx, eBay Motors has different payment policies and is not the topic being discussed on this thread. It does make sense to take online payments when you consider the buyer's position - paying electronically ensures they are eligible for protection if needed. The option to pay upon pickup is available if the seller would like to offer it and the buyer chooses it, but an electronic payment method must still be available and a seller cannot discourage a buyer from using this option if they would like.
Since when On a local Pickup does a buyer need any protection with a online payment ,since Buyer is going to have the goods right in front of them in their hands and Looking it over first before making the payment ! Instead of having it shipped which has much higher risk ! . Cash payments have always been the norm for local pickup since Ebay has been around and removes any risk of buyer fraud issues , SNADS And No Buyers Remorse !
04-25-2018 02:54 PM
@Anonymous wrote:
@carlmarxx wrote:
@couldabeenworse wrote:And Yes I have had Ebay Reps Tell to do this in the Listing ( Cash Payment's Only On Local PickUp Only!)
Yes, we have discussed before that eBay reps advised you to violate written policy. If it's working for you, it's ok by me, but it is still specifically not allowed.
It doesn't make since to take any online payments on a Local Pick up ! . In item listing payments section you can mark pay on pickup . also There is no Violation of policy since you don't have to take Online payments in ebay motors for local pickup option.
Hi @carlmarxx, eBay Motors has different payment policies and is not the topic being discussed on this thread. It does make sense to take online payments when you consider the buyer's position - paying electronically ensures they are eligible for protection if needed. The option to pay upon pickup is available if the seller would like to offer it and the buyer chooses it, but an electronic payment method must still be available and a seller cannot discourage a buyer from using this option if they would like.
Since when On a local Pickup does a buyer need any protection with a online payment ,since Buyer is going to have the goods right in front of them in their hands and Looking it over first before making the payment ! Instead of having it shipped which has much higher risk ! . Cash payments have always been the norm for local pickup since Ebay has been around and removes any risk of buyer fraud issues , SNADS And No Buyers Remorse .
04-25-2018 02:55 PM
@Anonymous wrote:
@carlmarxx wrote:
@couldabeenworse wrote:And Yes I have had Ebay Reps Tell to do this in the Listing ( Cash Payment's Only On Local PickUp Only!)
Yes, we have discussed before that eBay reps advised you to violate written policy. If it's working for you, it's ok by me, but it is still specifically not allowed.
It doesn't make since to take any online payments on a Local Pick up ! . In item listing payments section you can mark pay on pickup . also There is no Violation of policy since you don't have to take Online payments in ebay motors for local pickup option.
Hi @carlmarxx, eBay Motors has different payment policies and is not the topic being discussed on this thread. It does make sense to take online payments when you consider the buyer's position - paying electronically ensures they are eligible for protection if needed. The option to pay upon pickup is available if the seller would like to offer it and the buyer chooses it, but an electronic payment method must still be available and a seller cannot discourage a buyer from using this option if they would like.
Since when On a local Pickup does a buyer need any protection with a online payment ,since Buyer is going to have the goods right in front of them in their hands and Looking it over first before making the payment ! Instead of having it shipped which has much higher risk ! . Cash payments have always been the norm for local pickup since Ebay has been around and removes any risk of buyer fraud issues , SNADS And No Buyers Remorse issues .
04-25-2018 03:10 PM
@Anonymous wrote:@lovtaco0 wrote:@AnonymousIs it acceptable to put best offer on a local pickup listing and state in the listing that you are more amenable to offers if cash payment is used? That's not discouraging electronic payment, but it is offering savings to the buyer if they are comfortable with cash payment.
Hi @lovtaco0, it is acceptable to indicate your preference for cash payment, you just aren't allowed to discourage electronic payments. Comments such as, "I will cancel a PayPal payment for local pickup," is not acceptable, but "Cash is preferred for local pickup and may factor into my consideration of a Best Offer" would be fine, as it is along the same lines as "I offer combined shipments and Best Offers for multiple items are encouraged"
Trinton ; We are talking about local buyer pickup, where Buyer has far more control by paying with cash ! Fact is they are going to have their hands on goods looking over item they are going buy. This means No chance of buyer fraud , Or Snads or remorse issue . Also no returns for local pickup . I have no Need for Online payments for a local pickup by my buyers .
04-25-2018 03:21 PM
Trinton I have 2 id's And I have been a ebay member for 20 years ! And have a lot more experience on this site. Back in 2003 ebay decided on buying Paypal and became the own in start of 2004 ! in 2008 ebay pushed online payment 's ,However Ebay never forced it on pay on local pickup ! Not one seller Update ever said you had to take Online payments on local pickup.
04-25-2018 03:29 PM
@Anonymous
If the buyer went to pick up the item and found it was not described accurately, they would be protected in a return request.
That's good, however it is in direct contradiction to the written policy
Not Covered:
Local pickup items that were not collected by, or on behalf of, the buyer
Hilariously, that wording recently replaced wording that said exactly the opposite: that there's not protection for items that WERE picked up by the buyer. Maybe eBay should just eliminate all the wording on the policy pages and just say: See Trinton.
04-25-2018 03:52 PM
@couldabeenworse wrote:@Anonymous
If the buyer went to pick up the item and found it was not described accurately, they would be protected in a return request.
That's good, however it is in direct contradiction to the written policy
Not Covered:
Local pickup items that were not collected by, or on behalf of, the buyer
Hilariously, that wording recently replaced wording that said exactly the opposite: that there's not protection for items that WERE picked up by the buyer. Maybe eBay should just eliminate all the wording on the policy pages and just say: See Trinton.
It says local pickup is not covered if the item is NOT picked up by the buyer. If the buyer did NOT pick up the item or arrange pickup then they are not covered. They can file an INR or a SNAD but if the buyer did not make arrangements to pick up the item then eBay would rule against them.
Look at the section that says what is covered:
Items collected in person are covered, provided all other requirements are met
SNADs are covered with limitations. Trinton previously told us that items that can be inspected at the time of pickup like a bike or a table are not eligible for a SNAD. Something like a washing machine IS eligible for a SNAD IF the seller does not provide means for the buyer to plug in and test the item before bringing it home.
04-25-2018 03:53 PM
@couldabeenworse wrote:@Anonymous
If the buyer went to pick up the item and found it was not described accurately, they would be protected in a return request.
That's good, however it is in direct contradiction to the written policy
Not Covered:
Local pickup items that were not collected by, or on behalf of, the buyer
Hilariously, that wording recently replaced wording that said exactly the opposite: that there's not protection for items that WERE picked up by the buyer. Maybe eBay should just eliminate all the wording on the policy pages and just say: See Trinton.
Well Said!
04-25-2018 03:56 PM
@lovtaco0 wrote:
@couldabeenworse wrote:@Anonymous
If the buyer went to pick up the item and found it was not described accurately, they would be protected in a return request.
That's good, however it is in direct contradiction to the written policy
Not Covered:
Local pickup items that were not collected by, or on behalf of, the buyer
Hilariously, that wording recently replaced wording that said exactly the opposite: that there's not protection for items that WERE picked up by the buyer. Maybe eBay should just eliminate all the wording on the policy pages and just say: See Trinton.
It says local pickup is not covered if the item is NOT picked up by the buyer. If the buyer did NOT pick up the item or arrange pickup then they are not covered. They can file an INR or a SNAD but if the buyer did not make arrangements to pick up the item then eBay would rule against them.
Look at the section that says what is covered:
Items collected in person are covered, provided all other requirements are met
SNADs are covered with limitations. Trinton previously told us that items that can be inspected at the time of pickup like a bike or a table are not eligible for a SNAD. Something like a washing machine IS eligible for a SNAD IF the seller does not provide means for the buyer to plug in and test the item before bringing it home.
Well Said!
04-25-2018 03:57 PM
@lovtaco0 wrote:SNADs are covered with limitations. Trinton previously told us that items that can be inspected at the time of pickup like a bike or a table are not eligible for a SNAD. Something like a washing machine IS eligible for a SNAD IF the seller does not provide means for the buyer to plug in and test the item before bringing it home.
I should clarify the above to say that if the buyer paid in advance with PayPal then goes to pick up the item and upon inspection finds that it is not as described so they don't take it home then they would qualify for buyer protection under a SNAD claim.
04-25-2018 04:01 PM
It says local pickup is not covered if the item is NOT picked up by the buyer
Yes, so if the buyer goes to pick it up, finds it's not as described and doesn't take it with him, the written policy says it's not covered. Trinton's statement says it is. I presume Trinton is correct, but wouldn't count on an eBay rep to allow the claim unless Trinton was called in.