04-23-2025 02:26 AM - edited 04-23-2025 03:03 AM
Have sold for a real selling career for over 41.5 years. Here are two guiding principles sets that helped me succeed. Yes this was in tete-a-tete seling situations vs online selling but you are still dealing with humans of all types of experiences in life and many generational changes that will continue on. As I see it and did apply them to my eBay selling years where my Listings was my best sales person. You have to be a bit creative to do thats it is easy to do. The goal is to get the watchers to stop and put eyeballs on your listing and stop and read in a very short period of time and become convinced they may want your stuff.
1. The Man (or Woman) In The Chair - wants know stuff about who they are dealing with
2. What are the added value benefits of the products and /or services you are peddling to day - there are books on this at your local library and else where. But you need to be short,sweet and to the point. Ditch those cool words like Awesome an Amazing - they are empty means - benefit is why people buy (and those reasons are many and varied - be concise. You only have a limited time to get a buyer or they will do a walk on by. Kinda' like going Bass fishing keep casting until you find what lure they like today.
In my younger years I read a lot of books and attended seminars on selling techniques - not certain what this Z group is/all about - that's your job.
Recall a situation where a buyer called me on an order that she just placed and had a few questions- one was need it for B'day gift by such and such date, answered her questions and then she asked how much room was left in the box in a large fixed rate box - she added 7 more smaller items in the- box all at my listed price but were shipped free. I assured her it would be delivered on or before her delivery time. Put in the USPS hands on a Saturday (a non business day - but USPS keep moving stuff). She was pleased when it arrived. Customer first approach is always best - yeah it is once in a Blue moon event but they came back for more later.
04-23-2025 05:21 AM
@johnrj1226 wrote:As I see it and did apply them to my eBay selling years where my Listings was my best sales person. You have to be a bit creative to do thats it is easy to do.
*Just playing devil's advocate here. -It's easy for you to say it's easy to do when you're no longer having to do it, especially if markets have changed since you last did it, like buyers having less money to spend, for instance.
And although your post made some good points and has an encouraging feel overall, I don't see any specific advice about being creative with listings, nor can anyone look at your listings to see what you mean .... because you don't have any.
04-23-2025 06:29 AM
Some Nice advice, But I agree with gurlcat, Most of that does not apply to online selling, Or selling in these Current & turbulent times.
04-23-2025 07:15 AM
The goal is to get the watchers to stop and put eyeballs on your listing ...
Most sellers have a crooked trapezoid photo. My straight, level, parallel photos with the excess space around the perimeter removed is the listing the buyer is more likely to click on.
... and stop and read in a very short period of time and become convinced they may want your stuff.
People watch Elvis impersonators and Kiss tribute bands. The goal is a performance as close to the OG or Real McCoy as possible.
Early on, I realized that is how my descriptions should be. I include all of the text from the retail package. That drastically reduced the number of Questions to Seller I was receiving. Looking through Sold Items indicated I was getting a larger share of sales compared with identical items with lame descriptions. The features, benefits, compatibility and specifications I include within the description seal the deal.
04-23-2025 07:15 AM - edited 04-23-2025 07:16 AM
In your 41 year career of "tete-a-tete" selling, were you ever selling
I'm not sure most eBay buyers are pondering the value add of my service or what my company stands for, because eBay will give them a 100% refund if they so much as think an unhappy thought.
04-23-2025 09:04 AM
Like the OP, I too subscribe to similar standards of selling, which have benefited me in my early B&M retail businesses. HOWEVER, as mentioned , they can only be applied in "principle". Because no matter what a person is selling, their success is based on their ability to identify, plan, implement and adapt.
Those of us who sell primarily on this platform must navigate through the ever-changing rules and playing field.
Yet, no matter what a person is selling, their success is based on their ability to do simple math. Unfortunately, many new sellers must have skipped that class. 🙄
04-23-2025 09:13 AM
Honestly I think you might be missing the biz a bit, yeah? Even a little? If so you should come back, whether you "need" to or not, just have a few listings going, of only the things you enjoy selling the most.
The boredom of retirement is a real health hazard for people with real grit in their blood, I truly believe that.
04-23-2025 09:25 AM
'awesome an amazing'...true...these are not items and useless to use in my mind.
counter point...'antique or vintage'...why sellers continue to use these words is beyond me.
Any smart buyer will know it is antique or vintage or old.
Your business plan maybe worked in the past...but changes have happened.
Goal is 'repeat buyers' and should be in a mission statement.
And more and buyers use a iPhone or smartphone for a purchase...where a quick purchase comes into play without any other added features.
Watchers are basically nosey people to me.
You either buy it or move on...
04-23-2025 09:39 AM
Worthy advice. Bad analogy.
I've won three boats bass fishing. If you've resorted to throwing the tackle box at em', you're in trouble.
04-23-2025 10:34 AM
Your advice is better suited for some products in some categories than other products in other categories.
What has worked in some businesses does not work in other businesses even in the real world.
For many of us, it is meaningless to tout the benefits of our product. There are none other than self-gratification. The product performs no meaningful function, it is want not a need.
Some products which are wants can have an enhanced chance of selling by providing a story that is relevant to the product. Many people want items which are collectible and are more likely to buy from a seller who puts it in context for them.
Buyers may know if an item is antique or vintage but may not know its actual age, who made it and how it was used. Some items are of historical significance - local or national. Some have ties to celebrities of their time whose story can be shared.
If one is a good story-teller one can do a low keyed "no sell - sell" effectively. You can give the impression that you know about this stuff and you are selling it because it is valuable in ways the buyer was not aware.
04-23-2025 10:58 AM - edited 04-23-2025 05:11 PM
Gave you that advice for free - now do your own home work and read, read whatever you wish as 85% of what we remember/recall comes thru our visions, 12% by doing and ~8% through our hearing.. But it looks like you have all your need figured out.
Since I started working in 1967 all the way thru to Oct 2007 have seen more ups and down that a Duncan yoyo. Retailed capital goods. Capital goods and Advertising are the first items cut in an economy down turn. The largest recession happened in the1982 it was proceeded by 2 smaller recessions in 71 and mid/late 70s. It took 4 years to recover from the 82. Do some googling research and bone up on the mortgage rates, inflation and unemployment rates of that yesteryear. When money gets tight and good jobs got harder to find people people buy necessities. I had to work smarter and harder to maintain our living.Found what was selling cause people dont stop buying
PS: Have 3 children ages 55 to almost 39 - gave them my advise on life things and they said thanks many years later They are experiencing the changes and believe the strong will survive and accept they will have to change tactics to maintain a slice of the that need w/o cutting into savings.
Still shop at Walmart like I did in1983 at a small Country size unit out side of Waco, TX today I can buy more thinks but Walmart has a significant issue with losses theft - it has doubled from 3 billion bucks/year to 6+ billion. Profit dropped from. 6.5 to 3.5%- volume is every thing to Sam Walton the Founder - met/talked with him briefly in Houston area - town of Katy
04-24-2025 12:35 AM - edited 04-24-2025 12:45 AM
Worked for two Japanese companies over 14 years Mitsubishi & Komatsu. They were keen on what the termed "Plan - See - Do" method of continuous improvement in the business model.
Also Know As the PDCA or the Deming Cycle or Deming Wheel
Very similar to a motivational phrase a seasoned mentor ( the late J.R. Barber.) of mine laid on me when I was a young guy fresh out of college with my eyes wide open to the world- "Good, better, best. Never let it rest. 'Til your good is better and your better is best" Worked well for both business and personal improvement. Those gray haired ole foxes are great teachers (his name the late J.R. Barber.) - .
Ciao
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04-24-2025 03:39 AM - edited 04-24-2025 03:46 AM
@johnrj1226 wrote:
Gave you that advice for free - now do your own home work and read...
What advice was that, exactly? That selling takes effort?
I'm 65 and don't require homespun "wisdom" to know that, and something tells me that I am not the only one.
Your single anecdote about shipping on Saturday is a customer service insight. And delivering good customer service is just plain common sense.
No offense, but I don't see much value added here. Not sure that even Gen Z folks would either. regards
04-24-2025 04:09 AM
To each there own view point - personally found there are many common threads between selling of anything - as have experience with selling stuff on eBay, Craigs List , our own garages sales, worked in retail stores (Sears Country stores), drugstores, used car lots heck even fresh vegetables and fresh eggs at our farm stand. And obviously have had a life long experiences as a buyer and had all types of experiences from top shelf service to just lousy service with lousy products Sellers with an attitude will find me moving under the exit sign or hear. In the end selling & buing is of any thing is a people to people exchange. Many on line sellers like to flex their "internet muscles" - like kinda' like they do at the bar on a 4 or more Friday night.
04-24-2025 11:36 AM
Value added service example shipping time - getting it scanned in by carrier 1 day or sooner easy to do with USPS and shipping on a Saturday - a non Business day per eBay rules. It worked for me, eBay - eBay provable data - shipped 1665 items, received 1006 FB as a seller all but one Positive. Value added offer s tube the other guys that may be of value. Can't figure out why so many sellers have a no return policy when there is a 30 day eBay Money back Guarantee policy. Always had return policy never a free one.
Getting the shoppers to stop & look at your listing is key, Your key shot may do the trick to separate you from the masses where ever I could I took an interesting shot of the item but not the whole item e.g. if it was a shirt, I'd crop the shot showing the collar, size and brand label, pocket, a couple buttons, shirt pocket, brand name or logo & size - I termed these my show'em a little leg view - being creative (aka thinking out side the box) has some benefits - anything beside a shirt just handing on hanger and hanging on a closet door
FYW 41.5 years I sold forklift - lots of competition 200-250K new units sold in decent years in the US with more than 10 name brands plus low $ Chinese brands