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So I will have to pay the IRS for selling over $15k of my comic book collection on ebay this year?

Not sure how this works but the future worries me. I AM NOT a reseller. I just sell stuff in my collection, toys, comics, etc and I do spend a lot on eBay as well.

 

So will I get a 1099 form? Will I have to pay the IRS?

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and depending on their overall income odds may be as low as 1 in 350 million.

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A lot of people always want to really complicate this issue.

 

If you plan on selling on ebay regularly moving forward then you want to classify yourself as a business and use schedule C. It is the easiest way to do it, least likely to trigger an audit, which itself is incredibly unlikely. People in the general range of income that most ebay sellers tend to have face the fewest IRS audits statistically. The IRS likes to audit high income people and those who report almost no income at all.  

 

Even in that sub-1 percent chance of an audit it is highly likely that the IRS will either accept your estimates, bookkeeping and records or only have problems with small things. It does not mean that you will simply owe full tax on a $20,000 comic collection as if you found it on the ground for free.

 

Sometimes I get the feeling that very few people who actually sell things on ebay, make a profit and pay their taxes answer these questions, as you always get 20 people telling you to hire an accountant as if ebay seller bookkeeping was some mystery, while others will start talking about capital gains or losses which is a highly scrutinized route that is not a great choice for someone with a general collection of old stuff that they have no real idea of cost basis who also definitely seems to be selling things for profit otherwise as well. I see new steam games and recent toy catalogs and such in your store, you are already operating in a for profit manner with that stuff anyway.  Also, given your original stated value, the size of your store and the number of items sold I am betting it is going to take you years to unwind this stuff, and the schedule C paperwork is pretty easy. I do over 100,000 a year now and I just do schedule C on Turbotax, I don't hire an accountant.

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@onefootflipper wrote:

A lot of people always want to really complicate this issue.

 

If you plan on selling on ebay regularly moving forward then you want to classify yourself as a business and use schedule C. ....


But if you report a loss 3 years in a row, then the IRS figures you're not really in business and will reclassify your eBay activities as a hobby. I agree, Turbotax is very usr-friendly.

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@nobody*s_perfect wrote:

@onefootflipper wrote:

A lot of people always want to really complicate this issue.

 

If you plan on selling on ebay regularly moving forward then you want to classify yourself as a business and use schedule C. ....


But if you report a loss 3 years in a row, then the IRS figures you're not really in business and will reclassify your eBay activities as a hobby. I agree, Turbotax is very usr-friendly.


However it is very easy to forget a few expenses and instead show a tiny, tiny profit instead of a loss.  Pretty sure you have to have enough various deductions to itemize deductions on the 1040 to even claim that loss and most people don't have enough deductions to itemize. And those who do probably already have an accountant. 

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@hachumi wrote:

You will get no sympathy or help from the cheerleaders on this board. They feel everybody is a tax cheat who hasn't been filing all their income all along.  Yes you will get a 1099 and yes if you made a profit, you will have to prove that the money you made was on things you already owned, not bought to resell.    It's going to be a major headache when the 1099s start hitting the mailboxes, should be plenty of posts on here about how ebays and sellers numbers don't match.  I've already got the popcorn on standby...


And what would you refer to those individuals as?

 

As for no help.........................................  seems the help is being offered.  Sympathy? Well, not much sympathy is warranted for those not reporting their income/loss.

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That said, I do resent having to pay taxes on SS if I continue working but it's tax free income to those who don't.

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Really ?  My SS has always been at least partially taxed.

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Don’t let the replies scare you - just take your time and be smart about it and you won’t owe anything in taxes.  If you aren’t comfortable going it alone, hire a tax preparer that has some experience in returns with online selling income.  Me, I do it on my own, but some find a tax preparer to be a huge help.

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@onefootflipper wrote:

A lot of people always want to really complicate this issue.

 

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Sometimes I get the feeling that very few people who actually sell things on ebay, make a profit and pay their taxes answer these questions, as you always get 20 people telling you to hire an accountant as if ebay seller bookkeeping was some mystery, ...


 

Most people who would be capable of figuring out the tax implications on their own, would not be asking questions about it on an eBay forum. So, when we are answering questions like this, we (including yourself) are talking to a demographic subset of sellers who may not be able to figure out the tax implications. Therefore, consulting a tax specialist is always good advice, even if you yourself did not need to do that. It's a good way for someone to start out, and hopefully they will be able to continue independently after that.

 

You said earlier in your Best Answer that you don't believe that eBay sellers are audited very often. That may be your experience (and mine, as a matter of fact) but it's not true for all eBay sellers. I know of at least one regular responder,  who has said that they have been audited multiple times while filing Schedule C. I believe they always "won" the audits ( meaning their returns were accepted after the audit) because they do know how to do it correctly. But, the IRS does scrutinize those who file Schedule C to make sure that they really do operate a business, and are not just trying to fraudulently get an Earned Income Tax Credit, for example.

 

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@onefootflipper wrote:

@nobody*s_perfect wrote:

@onefootflipper wrote:

A lot of people always want to really complicate this issue.

 

If you plan on selling on ebay regularly moving forward then you want to classify yourself as a business and use schedule C. ....


But if you report a loss 3 years in a row, then the IRS figures you're not really in business and will reclassify your eBay activities as a hobby. I agree, Turbotax is very usr-friendly.


However it is very easy to forget a few expenses and instead show a tiny, tiny profit instead of a loss.  Pretty sure you have to have enough various deductions to itemize deductions on the 1040 to even claim that loss and most people don't have enough deductions to itemize. And those who do probably already have an accountant. 


 

Expenses that result in a loss from a hobby activity are not deductible on Schedule A Itemized deductions. They have not been since tax year 2018, when they were specifically disallowed. Hobby sellers can't deduct expenses (not even cost basis of items sold) even when they itemize deductions.

 

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@buyselljack2016 wrote:

That said, I do resent having to pay taxes on SS if I continue working but it's tax free income to those who don't.

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Really ?  My SS has always been at least partially taxed.


Single Filer pays tax on SS if they earn more than 25k (50% is taxable) and over $34k (85% is taxable)

Married moves those numbers to $32k and $44k

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@lacemaker3 wrote:

@onefootflipper wrote:

@nobody*s_perfect wrote:

@onefootflipper wrote:

A lot of people always want to really complicate this issue.

 

If you plan on selling on ebay regularly moving forward then you want to classify yourself as a business and use schedule C. ....


But if you report a loss 3 years in a row, then the IRS figures you're not really in business and will reclassify your eBay activities as a hobby. I agree, Turbotax is very usr-friendly.


However it is very easy to forget a few expenses and instead show a tiny, tiny profit instead of a loss.  Pretty sure you have to have enough various deductions to itemize deductions on the 1040 to even claim that loss and most people don't have enough deductions to itemize. And those who do probably already have an accountant. 


 

Expenses that result in a loss from a hobby activity are not deductible on Schedule A Itemized deductions. They have not been since tax year 2018, when they were specifically disallowed. Hobby sellers can't deduct expenses (not even cost basis of items sold) even when they itemize deductions.

 


But almost no one should ever classify themselves as a hobby seller. 

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@onefootflipper wrote:

@lacemaker3 wrote:

@onefootflipper wrote:

@nobody*s_perfect wrote:

@onefootflipper wrote:

A lot of people always want to really complicate this issue.

 

If you plan on selling on ebay regularly moving forward then you want to classify yourself as a business and use schedule C. ....


But if you report a loss 3 years in a row, then the IRS figures you're not really in business and will reclassify your eBay activities as a hobby. I agree, Turbotax is very usr-friendly.


However it is very easy to forget a few expenses and instead show a tiny, tiny profit instead of a loss.  Pretty sure you have to have enough various deductions to itemize deductions on the 1040 to even claim that loss and most people don't have enough deductions to itemize. And those who do probably already have an accountant. 


 

Expenses that result in a loss from a hobby activity are not deductible on Schedule A Itemized deductions. They have not been since tax year 2018, when they were specifically disallowed. Hobby sellers can't deduct expenses (not even cost basis of items sold) even when they itemize deductions.

 


But almost no one should ever classify themselves as a hobby seller. 


 

Yes, I think we are both trying to make that point. I was just trying to add that you can't deduct hobby expenses on itemized deductions (as you suggested), because lots of people have not realized that this has been changed (effective 2018). Filing as a business (with Schedule C) or filing capital gains and losses (Schedule D) is now the only way to deduct expenses from sales.

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I am out of work right now. Injury has had me basically unemployed for 19 months so ZERO income right now

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@cerealjedi wrote:

I am out of work right now. Injury has had me basically unemployed for 19 months so ZERO income right now


I lost a leg just under 3 years ago and after finally getting out of the hospital I turned to ebay since all my employment experience was in things I can't do now. And this year I will have made more than I ever did previously with a regular job. You can do it.

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not trying to make light of a serious subject......

but if you have "0" income in the past 19 months, you can probably easily sell 15K Gross worth of stuff and still pay zero income tax........the NET would be under the standard deduction of 12,5000.....thats a given

 

@onefootflipper  that's a very inspirational story....kudos!

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