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Report Scam Messages - User asking to Ship to Different Address

I recently had an item sell and within a short time after it sold I received a private message from an account/username that was not the account that purchased the item. The message said they were excited about the purchase and it was a gift for their boyfriend and to ship it to an address that did not match the address in the transaction details - it wasn't even in the same state. It's most certainly a scam.

 

How can I report this to eBay? I can't find anywhere to report this kind of thing. Between this and another recent incident it's becoming apparent that eBay has serious deficiencies when it comes to receiving and investigating reports of fraud.

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@lovett-1000 wrote:

It may not have been scam. I had buyers before paid wanted me o mail to other. They were just buying gift. For Mothers Bothers Fathers Friends and others. So I had no problem to just change address. All sales I have done like this has been with fine results. If the message was thru E Bay messaging then. You are covered with seller protection. During Christmas every year on my Pecans get a lot of the change address. The buyers message me thru E Bay messaging. Add the address they want me to mail. A little hassle but I make the buck . But lots of other sellers may not fell like me. I wish you the best. Was it a bid ?  You did say message after the buy? So it may could be scam.   


The scam messages are NOT from the original buyer. They are from an unrelated account, sent through the ended listing.  It's a scammer pretending to be the actual buyer, hoping that the seller will not notice that it's not the buyer's account. They ask for the item to be sent to another address for whatever reason.

 

These scammers troll just ended listings and mass send these messages to all of them, hoping someone will be naive/careless enough to bite.

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.


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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:


The scam messages are NOT from the original buyer. They are from an unrelated account, sent through the ended listing.  It's a scammer pretending to be the actual buyer, hoping that the seller will not notice that it's not the buyer's account. They ask for the item to be sent to another address for whatever reason.

 

These scammers troll just ended listings and mass send these messages to all of them, hoping someone will be naive/careless enough to bite.


It would be nice if one of the blues could pass on the suggestion to the "appropriate team" to have the report message put back.

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress.
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@lovett-1000 wrote:

It may not have been scam. I had buyers before paid wanted me o mail to other. They were just buying gift. For Mothers Bothers Fathers Friends and others. So I had no problem to just change address. All sales I have done like this has been with fine results. If the message was thru E Bay messaging then. You are covered with seller protection. During Christmas every year on my Pecans get a lot of the change address. The buyers message me thru E Bay messaging. Add the address they want me to mail. A little hassle but I make the buck . But lots of other sellers may not fell like me. I wish you the best. Was it a bid ?  You did say message after the buy? So it may could be scam.   


This one is definitely a scam.  It’s someone contacting from a different user account.  It’s a scam we’ve heard of before.  The buyer who actually purchased often doesn’t even know someone else has contacted to change the address. 

 

Also in your situation you should be aware while you are covered by eBay seller protection.  You will not be covered by PayPal seller protection which means the buyer can file there and win. They can also file with their cc and win PayPal will not protect you there either 

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This happened to me just this morning.  I received two orders, one with 8 items and the other with 6 items.... I thought COOL.  Then when I opened the payment I saw a note from the buyer:

Hello Dears (dead giveaway, who the heck calls their seller dear except off-shore sellers)

Then they explained that they were unable to find where to change the address and would I please ship the items to an address in Miami with an apartment number that had a combinations of about 10 letters and numbers, the item was a gift for their nephew.  Then they send me separate message for each order requesting the same as the message with the payment.

 

I immediately knew this was a scam but did google the address (less the "apt" number), and you guessed it, it was a freight forwarding facility.  Well, if there weren't enough alarms going off in my head already, I had to ask myself.... why would someone have something sent to a freight forwarding facility that they had to pay for the service when they could just forward the "gift" themselves.

 

I sent two messages to the scammer explaining I would not ship the items to an address that was not the address on file and cancelled the orders (bummer).  Shortly after, I received two messages from eBay stating that I had corresponded via message with someone whose account had been compromised.  I was rather disappointed that while eBay was interested in addressing the correspondence there was no information acknowledging the order nor instructions on what to do with it.  The warning only addressed what to do if you had actually send them anything.

 

In the past I believe I have read from a blue that eBay will accept an address change if the address change was requested via eBay messaging.... DO NOT DO THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.  While eBay may accept an address change, Paypal will not.  One of the easiest Paypal cases to win is an unauthorized charge via eBay dispute or CC chargeback.  It is covered by seller protection provided you ship to the address on file.

 

This is the message I received from eBay.... am I expecting something from eBay that I shouldn't be?  Please be honest.  I just got the feeling that if I hadn't sent the scammer a message, I wouldn't have received this message... nothing addressing the actual order.

 

MC010 Account Security Communication Partner Warning - 


Hello XXXXX

Our records show that you recently contacted or received messages from  XXXXXXX through eBay's messaging system. This account was recently found to have been accessed by an unauthorized third party, who may have used the account in an attempt to defraud other members.

We've taken action to restore this account to the original owner, but wanted to let you know to be suspicious of any communication you may have received from them.  Nothing is wrong with your account at this time – this message is just being sent as a precaution. If you have received any messages from that appears suspicious, please feel free to forward them to us at spoof@ebay.com for review.

--  Safety Tips --
-- Don't respond to the sender, through either eBay or your email provider, if the message is an offer to buy or sell an item. This type of offer may be fraudulent, and the transaction won't be covered by eBay protection programs.

- - If you received what appears to be a Second Chance Offer for an item you recently bid on, and it appears in My Messages with the subject of "Message from eBay Member," it isn't a legitimate Second Chance Offer. 

Real Second Chance Offers appear in My Messages with a blue background and subject that says, "eBay Second Chance Offer for Item...".  Always check for both the blue background in My Messages and the subject line of "eBay Second Chance Offer for Item…" when responding to a Second Chance Offer.

-- Never pay for your eBay items using instant cash wire transfer services such as Western Union or MoneyGram. It is against eBay's Safe Payments Policy for a seller to request payment with these methods, as these types of payments are unsafe if you're paying someone you don't know.

-- If You've Already Sent Payment or Shipped an Item --
- - If you already sent payment for an off-eBay transaction, or if you're a seller who already shipped an item to a fraudulent buyer, we suggest you take the following steps:

-- Contact the payment service you used to make the purchase.  If you paid by credit card, most card issuers provide consumer protections in instances of online fraud. 

- - If you sold and shipped an item to a fraudulent buyer, contact the carrier you used to ship the item. You might be able to receive additional assistance from the shipping service. If it was sent through the United States Postal Service, you may want to file mail fraud charges. Please go to:
 http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/

- - Report the fraudulent buyer or seller both to law enforcement officials in your area, and in the area where the buyer or seller lives. To find law enforcement agencies by area, please visit:
 http://www.usacops.com

When you contact a law enforcement officer, please explain the following:


  - eBay will be happy to help with the officer's investigation.
  - For more information on how the officer can contact eBay, go to:
    http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/law_enforcement.html

-- You may also want to file a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). The IC3 is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National White Collar Crime Center. The IC3 will review complaints and refer information to the appropriate local, state, or federal agency. To file a complaint with the IC3, please go to:

 http://www.ic3.gov/

We also need you to take a few minutes to provide more information related to the transaction. The information you provide will allow us to work more effectively with law enforcement should an investigation occur. Please go to:

 http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/transactions-outside-eBay.html

Click the "Item Bought Outside of eBay" or "Item Sold Outside of eBay" link. 


Thanks for your cooperation.

 

 

 

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@myangelandmyprincess wrote:

@lovett-1000 wrote:

It may not have been scam. I had buyers before paid wanted me o mail to other. They were just buying gift. For Mothers Bothers Fathers Friends and others. So I had no problem to just change address. All sales I have done like this has been with fine results. If the message was thru E Bay messaging then. You are covered with seller protection. During Christmas every year on my Pecans get a lot of the change address. The buyers message me thru E Bay messaging. Add the address they want me to mail. A little hassle but I make the buck . But lots of other sellers may not fell like me. I wish you the best. Was it a bid ?  You did say message after the buy? So it may could be scam.   


This one is definitely a scam.  It’s someone contacting from a different user account.  It’s a scam we’ve heard of before.  The buyer who actually purchased often doesn’t even know someone else has contacted to change the address. 

 

Also in your situation you should be aware while you are covered by eBay seller protection.  You will not be covered by PayPal seller protection which means the buyer can file there and win. They can also file with their cc and win PayPal will not protect you there either 


Missed this in your post and repeated it below above.

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Total scam attempt.

One sale a day, tomorrow the entire Galaxy!
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I bought a used camera lens for $1100 on eBay a month ago and the seller said that he received this kind of scam attempt message, but he knew it was a phishing email and ignored it.

 

I bought another lens for $1200 two weeks ago and the seller received the same kind of email and fell for it. He shipped the lens to one of the Delaware freight-forwarder addresses. Fortunately, when I inquired about shipping after three days, he realized what was happening and went to his post office and they were able to recall the package. He just got it back on Friday.

 

As long as eBay allows the opening of endless accounts in Eastern European countries, where these scams seem to originate, it'll only get worse.

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@tallerthangiants21 wrote:

How can I report this to eBay?


Forward the email to spoof@ebay.com

Messages sent there go directly to Trust & Safety.

 

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Into your life it will creep
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Also in your situation you should be aware while you are covered by eBay seller protection.  You will not be covered by PayPal seller protection which means the buyer can file there and win. 

 

 

If eBay has been providing (eBay) seller protection for address change requests that arrive in the eBay message system,  I seriously doubt they are going to keep it up if the eBay message requesting the change is NOT FROM THE BUYER but from a crook with a different ID. 

 

Yes, the original scam was to request an address change via messages, and then file INR with the Pal.  This, however, required some front money.  The new variation of the scam does not even require that.

 

 

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@ittybitnot wrote:

Also in your situation you should be aware while you are covered by eBay seller protection.  You will not be covered by PayPal seller protection which means the buyer can file there and win. 

 

 

If eBay has been providing (eBay) seller protection for address change requests that arrive in the eBay message system,  I seriously doubt they are going to keep it up if the eBay message requesting the change is NOT FROM THE BUYER but from a crook with a different ID. 

 

Yes, the original scam was to request an address change via messages, and then file INR with the Pal.  This, however, required some front money.  The new variation of the scam does not even require that.

 

 


Of course they wouldn't.  Sorry for any confusion my post this is from  was in reply to someone who had suggested it wasn't a scam and they ship to a different address all the time because there is still eBay seller protection.  This part of my post was specifically geared toward their practice of doing that    I had told them the ops message wasn't from the buyer but  I was letting  also letting that particular poster I replied to that even in their situation where the message came from the buyer they lose PayPal protection 

“Birth certificates show that you were born. Death certificates show that you died. Photographs show that you have lived.” -Unknown
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forward the email to spoof@ebay.com

 

These are not e-mails,  these are messages sent to the seller via the ebay message system.  eBay removed the report button from ebay messages, so if one desired to report the user they would have to partake in the 'call customer support experience' or just ignore. the message.  

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@slippinjimmy wrote:

@tallerthangiants21 wrote:

How can I report this to eBay?


Forward the email to spoof@ebay.com

Messages sent there go directly to Trust & Safety.

 


If it's a message rather than an email there's no way to do that, which is why they need to bring back the report message button.

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