09-12-2018 09:18 AM - edited 09-12-2018 09:20 AM
I recently had an item sell and within a short time after it sold I received a private message from an account/username that was not the account that purchased the item. The message said they were excited about the purchase and it was a gift for their boyfriend and to ship it to an address that did not match the address in the transaction details - it wasn't even in the same state. It's most certainly a scam.
How can I report this to eBay? I can't find anywhere to report this kind of thing. Between this and another recent incident it's becoming apparent that eBay has serious deficiencies when it comes to receiving and investigating reports of fraud.
03-31-2019 09:53 AM
@lovett-1000 wrote:It may not have been scam. I had buyers before paid wanted me o mail to other. They were just buying gift. For Mothers Bothers Fathers Friends and others. So I had no problem to just change address. All sales I have done like this has been with fine results. If the message was thru E Bay messaging then. You are covered with seller protection. During Christmas every year on my Pecans get a lot of the change address. The buyers message me thru E Bay messaging. Add the address they want me to mail. A little hassle but I make the buck . But lots of other sellers may not fell like me. I wish you the best. Was it a bid ? You did say message after the buy? So it may could be scam.
The scam messages are NOT from the original buyer. They are from an unrelated account, sent through the ended listing. It's a scammer pretending to be the actual buyer, hoping that the seller will not notice that it's not the buyer's account. They ask for the item to be sent to another address for whatever reason.
These scammers troll just ended listings and mass send these messages to all of them, hoping someone will be naive/careless enough to bite.
03-31-2019 09:56 AM
@southern*sweet*tea wrote:The scam messages are NOT from the original buyer. They are from an unrelated account, sent through the ended listing. It's a scammer pretending to be the actual buyer, hoping that the seller will not notice that it's not the buyer's account. They ask for the item to be sent to another address for whatever reason.
These scammers troll just ended listings and mass send these messages to all of them, hoping someone will be naive/careless enough to bite.
It would be nice if one of the blues could pass on the suggestion to the "appropriate team" to have the report message put back.
03-31-2019 10:00 AM
@lovett-1000 wrote:It may not have been scam. I had buyers before paid wanted me o mail to other. They were just buying gift. For Mothers Bothers Fathers Friends and others. So I had no problem to just change address. All sales I have done like this has been with fine results. If the message was thru E Bay messaging then. You are covered with seller protection. During Christmas every year on my Pecans get a lot of the change address. The buyers message me thru E Bay messaging. Add the address they want me to mail. A little hassle but I make the buck . But lots of other sellers may not fell like me. I wish you the best. Was it a bid ? You did say message after the buy? So it may could be scam.
This one is definitely a scam. It’s someone contacting from a different user account. It’s a scam we’ve heard of before. The buyer who actually purchased often doesn’t even know someone else has contacted to change the address.
Also in your situation you should be aware while you are covered by eBay seller protection. You will not be covered by PayPal seller protection which means the buyer can file there and win. They can also file with their cc and win PayPal will not protect you there either
03-31-2019 11:06 AM
This happened to me just this morning. I received two orders, one with 8 items and the other with 6 items.... I thought COOL. Then when I opened the payment I saw a note from the buyer:
Hello Dears (dead giveaway, who the heck calls their seller dear except off-shore sellers)
Then they explained that they were unable to find where to change the address and would I please ship the items to an address in Miami with an apartment number that had a combinations of about 10 letters and numbers, the item was a gift for their nephew. Then they send me separate message for each order requesting the same as the message with the payment.
I immediately knew this was a scam but did google the address (less the "apt" number), and you guessed it, it was a freight forwarding facility. Well, if there weren't enough alarms going off in my head already, I had to ask myself.... why would someone have something sent to a freight forwarding facility that they had to pay for the service when they could just forward the "gift" themselves.
I sent two messages to the scammer explaining I would not ship the items to an address that was not the address on file and cancelled the orders (bummer). Shortly after, I received two messages from eBay stating that I had corresponded via message with someone whose account had been compromised. I was rather disappointed that while eBay was interested in addressing the correspondence there was no information acknowledging the order nor instructions on what to do with it. The warning only addressed what to do if you had actually send them anything.
In the past I believe I have read from a blue that eBay will accept an address change if the address change was requested via eBay messaging.... DO NOT DO THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. While eBay may accept an address change, Paypal will not. One of the easiest Paypal cases to win is an unauthorized charge via eBay dispute or CC chargeback. It is covered by seller protection provided you ship to the address on file.
This is the message I received from eBay.... am I expecting something from eBay that I shouldn't be? Please be honest. I just got the feeling that if I hadn't sent the scammer a message, I wouldn't have received this message... nothing addressing the actual order.
03-31-2019 11:08 AM - edited 03-31-2019 11:09 AM
@myangelandmyprincess wrote:
@lovett-1000 wrote:It may not have been scam. I had buyers before paid wanted me o mail to other. They were just buying gift. For Mothers Bothers Fathers Friends and others. So I had no problem to just change address. All sales I have done like this has been with fine results. If the message was thru E Bay messaging then. You are covered with seller protection. During Christmas every year on my Pecans get a lot of the change address. The buyers message me thru E Bay messaging. Add the address they want me to mail. A little hassle but I make the buck . But lots of other sellers may not fell like me. I wish you the best. Was it a bid ? You did say message after the buy? So it may could be scam.
This one is definitely a scam. It’s someone contacting from a different user account. It’s a scam we’ve heard of before. The buyer who actually purchased often doesn’t even know someone else has contacted to change the address.
Also in your situation you should be aware while you are covered by eBay seller protection. You will not be covered by PayPal seller protection which means the buyer can file there and win. They can also file with their cc and win PayPal will not protect you there either
Missed this in your post and repeated it below above.
03-31-2019 11:10 AM
Total scam attempt.
03-31-2019 02:21 PM
I bought a used camera lens for $1100 on eBay a month ago and the seller said that he received this kind of scam attempt message, but he knew it was a phishing email and ignored it.
I bought another lens for $1200 two weeks ago and the seller received the same kind of email and fell for it. He shipped the lens to one of the Delaware freight-forwarder addresses. Fortunately, when I inquired about shipping after three days, he realized what was happening and went to his post office and they were able to recall the package. He just got it back on Friday.
As long as eBay allows the opening of endless accounts in Eastern European countries, where these scams seem to originate, it'll only get worse.
03-31-2019 02:55 PM
@tallerthangiants21 wrote:How can I report this to eBay?
Forward the email to spoof@ebay.com
Messages sent there go directly to Trust & Safety.
03-31-2019 07:17 PM
Also in your situation you should be aware while you are covered by eBay seller protection. You will not be covered by PayPal seller protection which means the buyer can file there and win.
If eBay has been providing (eBay) seller protection for address change requests that arrive in the eBay message system, I seriously doubt they are going to keep it up if the eBay message requesting the change is NOT FROM THE BUYER but from a crook with a different ID.
Yes, the original scam was to request an address change via messages, and then file INR with the Pal. This, however, required some front money. The new variation of the scam does not even require that.
04-01-2019 05:05 AM
@ittybitnot wrote:Also in your situation you should be aware while you are covered by eBay seller protection. You will not be covered by PayPal seller protection which means the buyer can file there and win.
If eBay has been providing (eBay) seller protection for address change requests that arrive in the eBay message system, I seriously doubt they are going to keep it up if the eBay message requesting the change is NOT FROM THE BUYER but from a crook with a different ID.
Yes, the original scam was to request an address change via messages, and then file INR with the Pal. This, however, required some front money. The new variation of the scam does not even require that.
Of course they wouldn't. Sorry for any confusion my post this is from was in reply to someone who had suggested it wasn't a scam and they ship to a different address all the time because there is still eBay seller protection. This part of my post was specifically geared toward their practice of doing that I had told them the ops message wasn't from the buyer but I was letting also letting that particular poster I replied to that even in their situation where the message came from the buyer they lose PayPal protection
04-01-2019 05:15 AM
forward the email to spoof@ebay.com
These are not e-mails, these are messages sent to the seller via the ebay message system. eBay removed the report button from ebay messages, so if one desired to report the user they would have to partake in the 'call customer support experience' or just ignore. the message.
04-01-2019 08:27 AM
@slippinjimmy wrote:
@tallerthangiants21 wrote:How can I report this to eBay?
Forward the email to spoof@ebay.com
Messages sent there go directly to Trust & Safety.
If it's a message rather than an email there's no way to do that, which is why they need to bring back the report message button.