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Outrageous New Shipping Charges and Rules

When ebay puts their new shipping charges and rules into effect, I believe that this will be the beginning of the end, both for Sellers, Buyers and ebay.  Whenever ebay has changed their formats and user fees over the years, I have put up with it because it still remained a great selling site.  However, this takes the cake.  Ebay will soon be known as a seller's site for TINY ITEMS because mailing fees are going to be out of sight.   What the hell are they thinking?  

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The part that got me in the ebay announcement about the new dimensional rates to all zones was their suggestion to help our costs:

 

"Use eBay Labels when possible for discounts on postage and renegotiate carrier contracts."

 

So, are they telling us to renegotiate carrier contracts or am I misreading this?

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You're not misreading. It's just one of the more ridiculous errors that eBay has made in ages.

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No matter how people have responded to my remarks, I agree on one. That ebay probably has nothing to say on what the P.O. does. NOW THAT THE SHOCK HAS WORN OFF, I take except to one remark which states that "...you are greedy...". I should have known better than to post MY OPINION for some people to see who probably not Sellers on ebay to jump in with their stupid remarks. I pay for the items I sell, and this is a business for me, just like all Sellers on ebay. They are not giving away something for nothing. Just like Walmart, Amazon, and any other retail establishment. They buy and sell. Not that I am comparing myself with Walmart, but if someone doesn't want what I sell, they don't have to buy. I have paid money out of my own pocket many times because I haven't charged enough for the postage. I really resent this narrow minded remark. This is not about me! I still stand by my remark that this will stop people from buying and selling on ebay.
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I don’t see where anyone said you are greedy? The greedy comment was talking about eBay. The follow up was addressed to another poster.

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eBay doesn't have new shipping charges, the USPS does.  Write your local congressman/woman

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I'm loving the new USPS dim weight rules. My products have never conformed, but some of my rivals have. Come June, their shipping costs will rise 50%, mine won't. I'm preparing for a massive summer of sales.
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but what if ebay stopped charging fees ON shipping - that might help ease the burden?

 

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@dazzlecity wrote:

but what if ebay stopped charging fees ON shipping - that might help ease the burden?

 


It isn't Ebay's responsibility to do that.  While I don't like the FVF on shipping, it is normal in the industry now.  But Ebay shouldn't have to give up some of it's sales because the seller's vendors have raised their rates.  Should they then lower their FVF on the sales price if the vendor you use to get your products from raises their rates?


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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The fees aren’t really on shipping. They are final value fees and accounting wise should be considered and expense against the item not the shipping.

 

using the total amount is the most fair way to calculate fees. Sellers were given a lot of benefits to offset the change in fee calculations.

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Mam...its not individuals buying. Ebay is purchasing every single label from usps on our behalf and charging us. That is why there is a giant logo EBAY above our names. Yes ebay gets a better price. That is why there is a slight discount at all available.
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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

I know this may sound old fashioned but I think the Koolaid reference is used way too flippantly. It refers to the mass murder of a bunch of people including children. I wouldn't compare using Ebay to mass murder but that's me.

 


Also, it was FlavorAid, not KoolAid

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@cashvaluerecovery2011 wrote:
Mam...its not individuals buying. Ebay is purchasing every single label from usps on our behalf and charging us. That is why there is a giant logo EBAY above our names. Yes ebay gets a better price. That is why there is a slight discount at all available.

You know you can negotiate your own prices with USPS, Fedex and UPS, right?

 

As long as you do the minimum daily volume, you can get cut rate prices for yourself- 50, 60, up to 70% off.  USPS has a minimum package requirement), Fedex and UPS have a minimum dollar requirement, they may have a package requirement as well. This is from single location.

 

Single location - that's the key. Ebay ships NOTHING, so they cannot get the deep discounts that a merchant that ships from their own location does.

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.


We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell
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It doesn’t matter what brand it was. That’s where the saying came from and I think it’s ghoulish and inappropriate to use.

 

also highly ridiculous to compare eBay to mass murder.

 

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@cashvaluerecovery2011 wrote:
Mam...its not individuals buying. Ebay is purchasing every single label from usps on our behalf and charging us. That is why there is a giant logo EBAY above our names. Yes ebay gets a better price. That is why there is a slight discount at all available.

You are confusing two different types of the ability to negotiate a rate.

 

A company that ships from ONE location or maybe a handful of locations but at a high volume can get better rates because they sort their mail or maybe some other things that normally USPS would do.  So it saves USPS time and money so they will negotiate that rate down.  This can happen for companies like Target, Amazon [when from an Amazon warehouse], Walmart etc.  Large companies.

 

But a company like Ebay, Etsy, etc.  that ship from multiple locations, literally millions of locations, do not have the same power.  They can't negotiate this rate because they can NOT presort or do anything else to warrant it.

 

Ebay's rates for FCP Domestic are the SAME and every single online provider of postage you will be able to find.  Ebay, Etsy, Amazon, Stamps.com, etc.  ALL the same rate for FCP Domestic.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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@rosannetiques wrote:
No matter how people have responded to my remarks, I agree on one. That ebay probably has nothing to say on what the P.O. does.



When we look at the eBay quarterly reports it shows they operate on about 10% profit margin.  Granted they do billions of dollars every quarter but the fact still remains that I could not operate on just 10% margins and I will assume you can not either?

 

What are the outrageous new rules you mentioned in your title?

 

Good Luck Selling!

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