Out of control FEES!

[mohillbillyme2]

Ebay charges fees on shipping and state taxes, tax money I never see or have anything to do with. Ebay is pricing itself out of business.

[peakdatanet]

Agreed. In fact, not just the American way, but also the only way any sales business would remain profitable.

Fees on fees on fees is unfortunate, but by no means is eBay deviating from standard industry practice in payment processing.

In addition, eBay now must do work they previously didn't have to as a marketplace facilitator and compute and withhold the taxes, something that can be very complicated and vary based on street address, even within zip codes, in certain localities. Tracking the sales tax changes, rates, what goods are taxable where, etc., is a service I'm glad eBay takes care of.

[theteamsetguy]

You don’t have to buy your shipping from eBay. I don’t because EBay doesn’t allow the postage fees to be charged to a credit card. I pay the same rates for USPS with Pirateship and get to charge the cost to my American Express Platinum card that gets me 4 points for every dollar in shipping fees I charge to the card. 

Because of the card I don’t remember the last time I paid for a plane ticket and I travel about a half dozen times a year or more. 

[nocoolnamejane]

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@rjm0222 wrote:

And again, a computer program can be written to eliminate a fee based on another charge by the same vendor like shipping. To say, ALL PAYMENT PROCESSORS DO IT THIS WAY is **bleep**. Its Ebay that dictates the rules to the payment processor. And if that processor wont do it there are other payment processors. Fees should absolutely NOT be charged for sales tax. And YES a payment processor can eliminate sales tax from the total so a fee isnt charged on the sales tax. So please stop with this: payment processors blah blah blah on the total and it cannot be changed. Please.................................. 

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You really think eBay can tell Visa, MasterCard, Amex, PayPal, GooglePay and ApplePay what they should charge their fees on?

[lepke1979]

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@rjm0222 wrote:

And again, a computer program can be written to eliminate a fee based on another charge by the same vendor like shipping. To say, ALL PAYMENT PROCESSORS DO IT THIS WAY is **bleep**. Its Ebay that dictates the rules to the payment processor. And if that processor wont do it there are other payment processors. Fees should absolutely NOT be charged for sales tax. And YES a payment processor can eliminate sales tax from the total so a fee isnt charged on the sales tax. So please stop with this: payment processors blah blah blah on the total and it cannot be changed. Please.................................. 

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Since sales tax is part of the transaction. I'm not sure why the processor would want to exclude it.

[maxine*j]

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@rjm0222 wrote:

And again, a computer program can be written to eliminate a fee based on another charge by the same vendor like shipping. To say, ALL PAYMENT PROCESSORS DO IT THIS WAY is **bleep**. Its Ebay that dictates the rules to the payment processor. And if that processor wont do it there are other payment processors. Fees should absolutely NOT be charged for sales tax. And YES a payment processor can eliminate sales tax from the total so a fee isnt charged on the sales tax. So please stop with this: payment processors blah blah blah on the total and it cannot be changed. Please.................................. 

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I did not say it could not be changed, I said it would not be changed, and for reasons that should be obvious -- including the bottom line of the processor.  So you please stop putting words in my mouth.

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[johnrj1226]

Just to add to your thought.  When the market  price and for an item drops to a point you can no longer make a decent profit stop selling it and find something else to replace.

When I was selling  pre-owned  7 for all mankind  jeans - sell for  ~$50/pair + shipping - priority mail (weight ~1.5 lbs.)  All authentic.  I could not get enough of them.  Then more sellers appeared and the  fake sellers showed up sell price tumbled and acquisition cost went up.  My ]profit margins  died the death of a rag doll and sales turnover slowed - stopped selling them and discovered used 35mm film cameras of certain name  brands could be sold for a decent profit and bought at  a reasonable cost plus some old  box type cameras that collectors sought - do know a bit about cameras.

Remember  the Hula-Hoop craze of the mid 50s only  lasted 3  years and there was only one supplier - Wham-oo - the cheapo lower quality & price sellers showed up and they weren't from China.

[rjm0222]

Are really saying I should have to pay Ebay a 13% commission on state imposed sales tax? You are another Ebay apologist.

[dhbookds]

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@rjm0222 wrote:

Are really saying I should have to pay Ebay a 13% commission on state imposed sales tax? You are another Ebay apologist.   realist. 

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[monica-sells]

"....Usually a fee is money which has to be paid for a service....

Commission is money earned...."

So, you are admitting that ebay is "earning" their money by charging you for collecting and remitting the sales tax for you? Pretty Ironic

Signed,

A Realist

[luckythewinner]

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@mohillbillyme2 wrote:

Ebay charges fees on shipping and state taxes, tax money I never see or have anything to do with. Ebay is pricing itself out of business.

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eBay has been charging fees on shipping for a decade and are not out of business yet. 

[wrong66]

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[dbfolks166mt]

Are really saying I should have to pay Ebay a 13% commission on state imposed sales tax? You are another Ebay apologist.

If you sell a $200 item and the state sales tax is 6% then the FVF on the sales tax is 

(($200 * .06) * .129) = $1.54

     Would you prefer to collect the sales tax on every single item you sell for up to 45 states, keep track of all the totals and remit the sales tax collected to every single state on whatever periodic basis they require? Not to mention all the paperwork that goes with that and the additional work required when you go to file you 2022 federal and state income tax? Personally I consider the eBay collection and handling of the sales tax to be a bargain. Few businesses perform services for free. 

[monica-sells]

"...Would you prefer to collect the sales tax on every single item you sell for up to 45 states...."

Just to expound on this point.....

There are over 11,000 standard sales tax jurisdictions in the United States in 2020, according to software company Vertex Inc.

.....food for $1.54 thought...

[dbfolks166mt]

Just to expound on this point.....

There are over 11,000 standard sales tax jurisdictions in the United States in 2020, according to software company Vertex Inc.

Thanks for mentioning that I knew it but forgot to include in my response. More complexity for those who want to collect and remit their own sales taxes. 

[maxine*j]

And I would like to add that I hope all the people who come here to complain that a fee on sales tax is (take your pick)  illegal, immoral, unethical, unreasonable, wrong, corrupt, offensive, and/or some combination thereof, have stopped using their own credit cards when they buy, so that their own consciences are clear that they are not adding to a practice that they see as despicable. 

They must find it especially detestable since most of the merchants they deal with are not only paying the merchant fee on the sales tax on each transaction paid for with a credit or debit card, but those merchants are also responsible for collecting and remitting that tax to their states in the first place.

I want to hear the sound of scissors cutting through all those cards held by people who vow never to use them again to spare sellers from this outrage.   I want to hear the clack of the keyboards as they close every on-line account on which they purchase, so as to spare those sellers from thos outrage, too.

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