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Offer to (join) assist with community or "other" issues.

I have been an eBay member for many years now.  I have seen some good things happen and some questionable things receive no attention.    I am offering my input to review and assist resolving issues that crop up during the course of doing business, hopefully to make eBay a more fun to shop and sell place on the internet.  Here's an example I've noticed several "business sellers" doing.   This occurs frequently in the area of Collectable Trading Cards.

 

They offer an item with an auction price or buy it now price beginning at $0.01.  Then they insert an incredible seller shipping price; for example - $21.95.  When this happens, it all but eliminates the percentage of eBay profit from the sale.  I still see it happening - can't believe someone hasn't blown the whistle on these members.  It's rare to see an $0.01 offer; usually it's more like a couple of dollars for the item and a bunch for shipping - e.g., several times the cost of the item.

 

I hope this input helps eBay close the door on this kind of activity.  Regards, bill

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@39hop 

 

eBay bases fees on the total amount paid by the buyer. This includes selling price, shipping and taxes. 
There is no advantage. 
1 cent + $24.99 shipping is equal to $25.00 and free shipping. 

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@39hop wrote: ... They offer an item with an auction price or buy it now price beginning at $0.01.  Then they insert an incredible seller shipping price; for example - $21.95.  When this happens, it all but eliminates the percentage of eBay profit from the sale. ...I hope this input helps eBay close the door on this kind of activity.  Regards, bill

It is not possible to set up a fixed price listing for less than $0.99.

 

As noted in the other post, sellers cannot avoid fees by inflating the shipping cost.  eBay "closed the door on this activity" (i.e., fee avoidance) in 2011: they charge the final value fee percentage based on the buyer's entire payment, including shipping and handling.  But apparently some sellers haven't gotten that message yet.

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@39hop wrote:

They offer an item with an auction price or buy it now price beginning at $0.01. Then they insert an incredible seller shipping price; for example - $21.95. When this happens, it all but eliminates the percentage of eBay profit from the sale.


No it doesn't.

You are mistaken about how fees work. 

If that item sells for $0.01, the seller pays fees on $21.96 not on $0.01.

 

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Sorry -- but you have at least one mistaken idea about how eBay works.  Not sure whether or not you understand the FVF.  If I sell an item for 1 cent and $21.95 shipping, eBay's final value fee will be exactly the same as if I sold it for $21.95 with 1 cent shipping or if I sold it for $21.96 with free shipping, exactly the same.

eBay's final value fee is calculated on the total of the item price, the shipping cost and the state sales tax, no matter how those are divided up.  

And I see that you're a seller, so have to ask:  have you been unaware of how fees are calculated?  

 

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And, with all due respect, how could you offer assistance or advice when you have such a mistaken idea of eBay fees?  

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Just so you know Ebay charges fees on the TOTAL. They changed that scam sellers used to pull years ago. The sellers you are referring to are not avoiding fees, but what they are doing is tricking buyers into looking at their listings. Most just hit the back button when they see the inflated ship charge.

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"They offer an item with an auction price or buy it now price beginning at $0.01.  Then they insert an incredible seller shipping price; for example - $21.95.  When this happens, it all but eliminates the percentage of eBay profit from the sale.  I still see it happening - can't believe someone hasn't blown the whistle on these members.  It's rare to see an $0.01 offer; usually it's more like a couple of dollars for the item and a bunch for shipping - e.g., several times the cost of the item."

 

What you've described was the way eBay used to be, in its early days.  
When it started, eBay charged its fee on only the cost at which the item was sold.   In the past.
The cost of postage that was shown in the listing was not subject to an eBay fee.   In the past.  

Lots and lots of dishonest sellers took advantage of this.   For the buyers, they paid the total price, as they do now.   But for sellers, to continue your example, it might cost less than $1.00 to mail that collectible trading card.  So the seller pocketed $20.95.  And eBay only got to keep a percentage of that One Cent item price.

It took eBay a few years to "close the door on this kind of activity".   
Nowadays the seller is charged eBay's fee on the total amount the buyer pays: 
Cost of the item + postage + sales tax (if any), and a couple of other less common factors.  

I will say it is kind of refreshing, though, to read your concern that eBay might not be retaining enough in fees.  Even now, after so many years of eBay charging fees on that total price paid by buyers, this community board gets an awful lot of posts from sellers who think eBay should charge less, eBay shouldn't charge fees on this, that, or some other factor, suggesting eBay is breaking unspecified laws (or quoting laws that don't apply), or subscribes to discredited political theories of the 20th century, or is just flat out Greedy.  

My suggestion:  keep reading this and the other eBay community boards.  It's the best way to learn eBay's procedures and practices.  

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Some of them, I believe, still think they're avoiding fees with this kind of listing.  Obviously, the OP thought so.

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I wouldnt offer any more 'advice' if I were you. Ebay started charging fees on shipping eleven years ago.



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Thank everyone for enlightening me, even the member who felt it was necessary to degrade me.  I learned a lot from you all and the price was right.  Thank you again.   I look forward to more training in the future.  

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That is not true. It used to be like that years ago but now , it doesn't matter  since Ebay takes their percentage of the ENTIRE total.   I still see those types of ads. It's either because the seller doesn't know any better or the buyer is dumb and did not read the shipping cost.

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