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inhawaii · ‎07-09-2022

Do you think sellers ever do this?

Run into a OOS situation.

Rather than take the OOS strike,

deliberately send the wrong item knowing it will end with a INAD.

Then have the buyer send the item back.

Seller will be out of shipping both ways but will avoid a OOS strike.

One In A Million You - Larry Graham

southern*sweet*tea · ‎07-09-2022

No, they just don't send anything, then refund immediately when the INR is filed. 😖

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.

We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell

mr_lincoln · ‎07-09-2022

@inhawaii I'm sure some have ... now, lets talk about doing that in the case of a Ghost relisting that sells ... yep, it happens ... happened to me several times meaning a previously Sold it mysteriously gets relisted without the Seller's knowledge and then sells ... again.

Here are some things I did when this happened (yep, more then once but has not happened for quite some time)

-Message Buyer, explain what happened and ask if they will request a cancellation

-Ship replacement items with a note explaining what happened and if they were not satisfied with the replacement to file a return and would accept without question

Both of those approaches yielded positive results and ironically, those I sent the replacement items to kept them with thanks. Sellers should NOT be penalized for a situation they did not create.

Mr. L

Regards,
Mr. Lincoln - Community Mentor

inhawaii · ‎07-09-2022

@southern*sweet*tea wrote:
No, they just don't send anything, then refund immediately when the INR is filed. 😖

You are a genius!

Not that I would ever do that. 😉

One In A Million You - Larry Graham

inhawaii · ‎07-09-2022

@mr_lincoln wrote:
@inhawaii I'm sure some have ... now, lets talk about doing that in the case of a Ghost relisting that sells ... yep, it happens ... happened to me several times meaning a previously Sold it mysteriously gets relisted without the Seller's knowledge and then sells ... again.
Here are some things I did when this happened (yep, more then once but has not happened for quite some time)
-Message Buyer, explain what happened and ask if they will request a cancellation
-Ship replacement items with a note explaining what happened and if they were not satisfied with the replacement to file a return and would accept without question

Both of those approaches yielded positive results and ironically, those I sent the replacement items to kept them with thanks. Sellers should NOT be penalized for a situation they did not create.

Mr. L

I agree with you however, this was not a "ghost listing".

It was simply a seller screw up. 😉

One In A Million You - Larry Graham

richard1rst · ‎07-09-2022

@inhawaii wrote:
Do you think sellers ever do this?
Run into a OOS situation.
Rather than take the OOS strike,
deliberately send the wrong item knowing it will end with a INAD.
Then have the buyer send the item back.
Seller will be out of shipping both ways but will avoid a OOS strike.

Well, a single OOS isn't going to really hurt. And it will fall off in 3 months.

Now a whole bunch of OOSs are indicative of sloppy inventory management and suggest a seller who shouldn't be here in the first place. And most likely won't be for long. It is reasonable to believe that eBay keeps track of INADs and INRs as well.

"Laissez-faire capitalism (AKA The Great Material Continuum) is the only social system based on the recognition of individual rights and, therefore, the only system that bans force from social relationships." ~ Ayn Rand

lepke1979 · ‎07-09-2022

@richard1rst wrote:
@inhawaii wrote:
Do you think sellers ever do this?
Run into a OOS situation.
Rather than take the OOS strike,
deliberately send the wrong item knowing it will end with a INAD.
Then have the buyer send the item back.
Seller will be out of shipping both ways but will avoid a OOS strike.

Well, a single OOS isn't going to really hurt. And it will fall off in 3 months.

Now a whole bunch of OOSs are indicative of sloppy inventory management and suggest a seller who shouldn't be here in the first place. And most likely won't be for long. It is reasonable to believe that eBay keeps track of INADs and INRs as well.

It's 12 months if you sell less than 400 items in a 3 month period.

coolections · ‎07-10-2022

I would venture to guess that 0.0001% of all sellers in the world would do wat you suggest.

714ricki · ‎07-10-2022

Even though it isn't the most business ethical thing to do, I would imagine that it does happen across the platform. 😎

coolections · ‎07-10-2022

@714ricki

Are you serious?

vintage-camerastuff · ‎07-10-2022

No.

m60driver · ‎07-10-2022

@coolections wrote:
I would venture to guess that 0.0001% of all sellers in the world would do wat you suggest.

I might imagine that the number is far higher than that given the onerous consequences to making such a mistake for smaller sellers. EBay defines the rules of the system and it only makes sense to game those rules for business reasons. It is the American way and you are a fool not to play the game. I mean heck, Ebay never even apologies for their mistakes when it costs sellers lots of time correcting those errors.

Disclaimer: Over the past decade I can only recall two instances where I was unable to find a sold item to ship. And one was a double listing that should have been caught by Ebay.

pargran3 · ‎07-10-2022

There has been a time or two when I thought a "ghost" listing caused a problem. Maybe it does happen. I am sure those that think it happened know what they are talking about. I my case it was a matter of using sell similar and forgetting to change the quantity on the new listing.

Seller error.

Demerit or whatever it is called. Only so many allowed.

Radine

bashort · ‎07-10-2022

@inhawaii wrote:
Do you think sellers ever do this?
Run into a OOS situation.
Rather than take the OOS strike,
deliberately send the wrong item knowing it will end with a INAD.
Then have the buyer send the item back.
Seller will be out of shipping both ways but will avoid a OOS strike.

Yes