Nonpaying Buyers
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05-23-2024 05:36 PM
Anyone know how many nonpayments on can have before e-bay kicked them off the site? I am not asking how many they don't pay before they limit account. Had a buyer 5 nonpayments on my auction reported all 5, buyer paid for one. Several other sellers put positive feedback with negative remark, so total nonpayments 12. Seems customer service agents are not fourth coming on the information. Anyone have idea???
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05-24-2024 09:26 AM
The number is probably about one million.
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05-24-2024 09:53 AM
Totally depends on the timing. They are not automatically always grouped together and would often be paid separately, in fact.
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05-24-2024 10:29 AM - edited 05-24-2024 11:10 AM
I disagree, in fact they are "automatically always grouped together". Unless you pay for one auction before winning anymore it is impossible to pay an auction separately once you win more than one. I've tried this many times and even started a thread to see if it was possible. @gurlcat and @mam98031 confirmed back then that items can not be paid separately for multiple auction wins. Hopefully they can chime in to clarify this
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05-24-2024 11:43 AM
@fuchi888 wrote:Yes, true. I know as buyer I would liked BIN, so I agree with you. I just use a different business model that I hav become accustomed to whether it draws few or lots of buyers. Thanks
With all due respect, how can you say you're accustomed to it on one hand, while complaining about a major pitfall on the other?
The point that @theteamsetguy made about most of your auctions getting only 1 bid -that is arguably the most important piece of info you need regarding whether your items should be auction or BIN. The whole advantage to an auction (if/when there is one) is that 2 or more people are interested enough to compete with each other to get the item. If that rarely happens with the kinds of items you sell, then auctioning them is pointless, period. You should just make them BIN's with the same price as your starting bid, or maybe a bit more, since there will be more than 7 days of the item to be findable to the right person, one who's willing to pay a bit more.
I'm not anti-auction in the slightest; I love them as both a seller and a buyer, but they definitely have limited application. The vast majority of my listings are always BIN because I can see how much they are likely to fetch on eBay. The items I auction are more "wild card" and yes, they must be unique and desirable.
Why you won't even consider trying BIN .... like even a few items to start with, just to see how it goes .... that just doesn't make sense. This "what I'm accustomed to" thing doesn't even sound like a real reason, because it's not a major operational change, and what change it amounts to is actually going from 'harder' to 'easier.' When you hear that 'ching' sound for a BIN, it means the sale is DONE, PAID FOR, OVER. Easy, and no disappointment strung out over 4 days!
It sounds like you're not saying the real reason you don't want to switch or even try, but I can't imagine what it would be.
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05-24-2024 01:33 PM
Here is the discussion I was referring to in my last post regarding not being able to pay multiple auctions won separately...
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05-24-2024 01:45 PM
I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me. I said it depends on the timing. Yes, if you win them all within a short timeframe and haven't paid yet, each unpaid item from the same seller will go into checkout together. But most people win one item here, then one item there, etc, and pay for them as they go.
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05-24-2024 01:51 PM - edited 05-24-2024 02:17 PM
ok, that's what I said you can only pay for one if there are no other auctions won from the seller. To me that would be obvious but the OP didn't make that clear.
I usually win a bunch over the course of about 2 weeks and it's impossible to pay them separately.
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05-24-2024 06:49 PM
@campanaelia wrote:ok, that's what I said you can only pay for one if there are no other auctions won from the seller. To me that would be obvious but the OP didn't make that clear.
I usually win a bunch over the course of about 2 weeks and it's impossible to pay them separately.
Wait, what??? TWO WEEKS, and you can't find a moment to go pay for whichever ones you want, before the next one(s) close?
I'm pretty sure @brightlightbookseller was talking about a matter of minutes when they said "short time frame", because a lot of sellers roll out their auctions in one sitting, so they close within minutes of each other. But if you consider 2 weeks a short time frame and too short to pay them separately, I really don't understand. Even a homeless person with only library access to a computer could still get on the website once a day, LOL.
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05-24-2024 06:59 PM
Yes some of my regular sellers I buy from repeatedly allow me up to 3 weeks to pay. I am able to fill up boxes that way and it keeps me loyal watching and bidding their items and even one's I don't win I help the seller get higher prices by sniping at the end. It's a win-win for both of us. I actually buy more from them this way than if they had less time to pay.
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05-24-2024 07:02 PM
The real secret is ebay almost never gets rid of nonpaying buyers. Its like the Door Close button on the elevator. Doesn't really do anything.
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05-24-2024 07:06 PM
@campanaelia wrote:Yes some of my regular sellers I buy from repeatedly allow me up to 3 weeks to pay. I am able to fill up boxes that way and it keeps me loyal watching and bidding their items and even one's I don't win I help the seller get higher prices by sniping at the end. It's a win-win for both of us. I actually buy more from them this way than if they had less time to pay.
Okay yes I remember you've talked about that before. But typically when a buyer who wants to do that, it's because they WANT the items lumped together in one payment, for combined shipping.
So this is why I'm confused. Why are you asking about paying a seller for multiple auctions separately? Like why do you want to do that? And if you want to do it, if their auctions are spaced so far apart, doesn't that give you plenty of time to pay for individual wins in-between closing dates/times?
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05-24-2024 08:20 PM - edited 05-24-2024 08:22 PM
The times I tried to pay separately for an item had to do with splitting the order to 2 different shipping addresses, using more than one payment option, and to shift more expensive items past my credit card billing cutoff date. I've always been able to work it out with the sellers directly in the end, but ebay could make it easier to do.

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