mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@roscothunder wrote:I kind of doubt the buyers care.
I set messages. No replies. Ebay sent messages. No replies.
Just a lot of wasted time. UID only affect them if sellers actually go their settings and set them to exclude buyers with UID.
It's a joke.
All buyers aren't the same. Some will respond and some won't. The UID process is much shorter than it use to be. It may not be what you want it to be, but it is better than it was. We use to not even be able to open them for a week, now is it 48 hours after purchase. Then the old rule was we had to wait another week before we could close it for non payment if payment had not arrived, now is it 96 hours after you open the UID you can close it for non payment if the payment doesn't arrive.
So while you may feel it has room for improvement, it is the current rule and what we all as sellers have to deal with at this time. I personally don't think Ebay will shorten the process any more than this. But it never hurts to ask.
@roscothunder wrote:"Have" but if they take 48 hours more than likely they aren't going to pay and if you're as accomplished a seller as you make yourself out to be with your "expert advice" you know this. If someone hasn't paid in 48 hours good luck but in my experience that person usually isn't going to pay or is going to reply with some excuse for why they haven't paid or can't pay.
Ebay should have an autopay system. If you win the auction it should automatically pay the seller from your account. There's no reason not to have that in this day and age of linked bank accounts, paypal etc.
But that would require Ebay caring about all sellers as opposed to just buyers and large BIN sellers.
They do, it is called IPR [immediate payment required], however that is only on FP listings. It can't work on auctions because they can't require buyers to pay immediately when they bid otherwise if there were multiple bidders, you would get multiple payments on the same item or Ebay would be having to issue refunds when another bidders bids. On very active auctions that would be a hot mess. Which is why on auctions IPR won't work.
If you want IPR, it is simple. Run FP listings.
@roscothunder wrote:Who is saying payments should be made every bid?
It should be AUTO if you win. You win....you pay automatically.
I don't even get how you got "pay with every bid" from what I was saying.
And you really don't seem to get.....I'm done with Ebay. I've only said that about 1,000 times now.
At the point of an auction ending, the winning bidder is set. The actual payment is a completely separate transaction. Even if a buyer were to set up an automated payment method on Ebay, that doesn't mean that it would be funded. Meaning they could attach a CC that is closed at some point after the buyer attached it to their Ebay account, or maybe they never updated it as the valid through date changes, or if they use a bank account it could have since been closed or no longer has enough funds to cover the purchase, and so on. Many reasons why a payment method may no longer be viable.
So then you are back to a winning bidder and no payment. I know you want it to seem like a simple thing to resolve when it isn't. It is more complex which is exactly why Ebay has never done it.
I have no issues with you being "done with Ebay". That is your decision and not one I'm trying to get you to change. You won't find any of my posting asking you to reconsider. Just addressing certain things you have said, nothing more. Don't read things into my post that don't exist as you'd likely be wrong as you are on this particular matter. I don't care if you stay or go. That is your decision to make. It simply doesn't matter to me.
@ra_201044 wrote:
@ricardos.records wrote:THIS REPLY IS NOTHING BUT COP OUT GARBAGE WHICH FAVORS THE DEAD BEATS ... EBAY SHOULD AT LEAST ALLOW NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON NON PAYING BIDDERS .. IF A PERSON HAD TO SIGN UP USING COORDINATION WITH A SOCIAL, SECURITY # AND A BANK ACCT, THIS PROBLEM WOULD CEASE TO EXIST WITH THE REAL THREAT OF BEING THROWN OFF FOR NOT PAYING. . AND IT IS AN AUCTION SITE FIRST, THAT'S HOW IT WAS FOUNDED. MANY PEOPLE PREFER TO AT LEAST TRY AN AUCTION ...
You're right on that - the problem would cease to exist because no bidder/buyer would ever do that.
Businesses typically don't allow for the public shaming of their customers. That would be a very bad business model to try. And would likely make your business a bit short lived as it would affect good customers too not wanting to do business with a business that does such a thing.
Most of the sellers that would like to see neg FB for buyers to come back are likely not to consider themselves as running a little business. But that simply isn't correct since there are ONLY business transaction on Ebay and ZERO personal transaction.
To enact neg FB on buyers would hurt the entire site and every one of it's sellers. It is just plain BAD business.
@ra_201044 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@ra_201044 wrote:
@ricardos.records wrote:THIS REPLY IS NOTHING BUT COP OUT GARBAGE WHICH FAVORS THE DEAD BEATS ... EBAY SHOULD AT LEAST ALLOW NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON NON PAYING BIDDERS .. IF A PERSON HAD TO SIGN UP USING COORDINATION WITH A SOCIAL, SECURITY # AND A BANK ACCT, THIS PROBLEM WOULD CEASE TO EXIST WITH THE REAL THREAT OF BEING THROWN OFF FOR NOT PAYING. . AND IT IS AN AUCTION SITE FIRST, THAT'S HOW IT WAS FOUNDED. MANY PEOPLE PREFER TO AT LEAST TRY AN AUCTION ...
You're right on that - the problem would cease to exist because no bidder/buyer would ever do that.
Businesses typically don't allow for the public shaming of their customers. That would be a very bad business model to try. And would likely make your business a bit short lived as it would affect good customers too not wanting to do business with a business that does such a thing.
Most of the sellers that would like to see neg FB for buyers to come back are likely not to consider themselves as running a little business. But that simply isn't correct since there are ONLY business transaction on Ebay and ZERO personal transaction.
To enact neg FB on buyers would hurt the entire site and every one of it's sellers. It is just plain BAD business.
mam - why are you replying to me on the neg feedback for buyers? I bolded the part about buyers having to give their SS #, bank account, whatever to ebay when they register. That was what my comment was about - for the poster who wanted that. The also wanted neg feedback for buyers reinstated, which I believe is a bad idea also.
Because I can't read apparently. Totally my fault. I thought I was responding to something else. Completely my bad and I'm sorry. Just ignore me. Sorry!!!!
