04-06-2018 08:25 PM
This is so unfair to sellers , you now have to offer free returns for 30 days no matter what even mistake by a buyer and you foot the bill for your shipping and you pay buyer shipping back absolutely ridiculous!! I can not belive ebay thinks this is a good idea , I will be looking to other sites to sell ,and will reduce my selling on ebay , I just had a buyer open a case after they told me in email it was there mistake and ebay said I still had to pay both shipping cost because they are no longer close cases even when they know it is buyers fault and policy will go into affect on June 2018. Small businees will be hurt I am not amazon and people will abuse this and sellers will pay!
04-25-2018 08:07 AM
@myemptycupboards wrote:
How about we charge twice as much shipping so we can afford to pay for the returned item.
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04-29-2018 10:37 AM
I am removing all items from the GSP and only going to sell in the lower 48.
The return policy, NADs etc. have facilitated this change.
I have noticed some large retailers have left eBay.
i don't see their "Official Store on eBay" in the areas I search.
Speculating that the new policies are an attempt to lure them back.
04-29-2018 11:56 AM
@orangehound wrote:
@u2bella wrote:I can not belive ebay thinks this is a good idea
It is a great idea for eBay. It increases sales and (thus) eBay commissions ... but eBay doesn't have to pay for the return. Zero cost to eBay, and lots of profits.
Small businees will be hurt I am not amazon and people will abuse this and sellers will pay!Amazon doesn't offer free returns on most items ... they and most every other on-line retailer knows that a liberal returns policy is cost-prohibitive.
Amazon does not pay return shipping on items that are not due to Amazon error. Amazon also has a lot of stipulations on returns.
Of course eBay thinks it is a great idea, it is not their money. I don't do blanket free returns, that is ridiculous. If I make an error, I'll pay to ship it back, or just refund and let them keep it. If the customer changes their mind, they have to ship it back.
04-29-2018 01:26 PM
@vintagecraze50 wrote:You said having the free return shipping makes Ebay money? How so? They loose the final value fee on the sold item. Ebay is doing these things to keep up with what most other sites do, offer free shipping and returns to ATTRACT more buyers. Which if my calculations are correct, You, and Ebay can make more money that way. Of course the prices have to reflect a better deal than the other folks as well or all the free return and shipping wont work as well, BUT, there are people who will PAY MORE--YES FOLKS-MORE, for something if they know they can return it and it's free to return if they buy it. Best of luck to all, and do the best you can to AVOID a return, by having listing that are clear concise, no surprises that a buyer will get when they buy it. Renters are here yes, and other issues but overall great buyers.
Please tell us WHICH "other sites" do this.
Not "other sites" that don't actually own sell and ship their OWN INVENTORY.
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04-29-2018 01:56 PM
@hotspotauctions wrote:
@orangehound wrote:
@u2bella wrote:I can not belive ebay thinks this is a good idea
It is a great idea for eBay. It increases sales and (thus) eBay commissions ... but eBay doesn't have to pay for the return. Zero cost to eBay, and lots of profits.
Small businees will be hurt I am not amazon and people will abuse this and sellers will pay!Amazon doesn't offer free returns on most items ... they and most every other on-line retailer knows that a liberal returns policy is cost-prohibitive.
Amazon does not pay return shipping on items that are not due to Amazon error. Amazon also has a lot of stipulations on returns.
Of course eBay thinks it is a great idea, it is not their money. I don't do blanket free returns, that is ridiculous. If I make an error, I'll pay to ship it back, or just refund and let them keep it. If the customer changes their mind, they have to ship it back.
Amazon actually offers free returns on a lot of items. Amazon does not have a lot of stipulations on returns either.
05-04-2018 03:03 PM
I have been a seller since 2014. I have seen the slow incremental increase in requirements for top rated sellers while benefits have been rolled back. We used to get 20% discount for being a top rated seller, now we only get 10%. Around the same time the same day/one day handling plus 30 day return became mandatory is when the reduction from 20 to 10% went into effect. I must say I did not experience a large increase in the number of returns going from 7 days to 30 days. I am not sure how the free returns is going to affect my margins but reverse logistics is a multi-billion dollar industry. How much longer before EBAY mandates 60 day free returns? I do not get it as returns are not good for EBAY as they will have to reverse the selling fees when an item is returned.
05-04-2018 03:46 PM
05-04-2018 04:05 PM
I think, from a buyers perspective, the free returns makes a ton of sense. From an HONEST buyers perspective. Many people who are on the fence regarding an item, if they see they can return it, willl buy it. It’s psychological. The vast majority of those buyers will not return the item, but just having the ability to do so will result in a sale, where they otherwise would not. The returns, buyer pays return shipping, in THEORY is great, again, when HONEST buyers are involved. They acknowledge they either changed their mind, or it does not fit, or the color just doesn’t work, (whatever) and they pay to send the item back to seller. Inconvenient but no harm no foul. It is the dishonest buyers that take advantage, and that will continue to find ways to circumvent the systems put in place. EBAY is not factoring them in, probably (rightly) thinking they are the few and not the majority. Still, if you are the seller involved with one of these kinds of buyers, it is a big deal to you.
05-13-2018 08:44 AM
I couldn't agree more! I've never had a return problem until this new policy went into effect. Now in the past few weeks I've had FIVE returns all claiming the item doesn't match the description. I'm happy to accept the item back but there is NO WAY I should have to pay to ship it to them, pay to have them ship it back AND refund the original shipping! I don't sell that many items and there is little enough net profit after all of the fees. One return like this wipes out the profit I'm making on three other sales. The problem is I don't see any other viable options for used clothing sales. How do we make our voices heard on this issue? Calling eBay seems to do nothing when you only end up talking to some poorly paid employee in the Philippines. eBay is so huge now that I'm convinced me leaving won't impact them at all and therefore they don't care.
05-13-2018 11:30 AM
@u2bella wrote:Starting in May 2018, we will streamline our returns policy options. Buyers' expectations are continuously evolving and we strive to deliver a returns experience that is consistent and competitive with the changing marketplace. Our simplified return policy options will help drive a retail-standard returns experience for buyers and may boost your sales. We recommend that you begin changing your returns policies now.
The five return policy options will be:
No returns accepted
30-day buyer-paid returns
30-day free returns
60-day buyer-paid returns
60-day free returnsAn ebay even if buyer purchase by mistake they told me we have to cover there shipping
@u2bella wrote:Starting in May 2018, we will streamline our returns policy options. Buyers' expectations are continuously evolving and we strive to deliver a returns experience that is consistent and competitive with the changing marketplace. Our simplified return policy options will help drive a retail-standard returns experience for buyers and may boost your sales. We recommend that you begin changing your returns policies now.
The five return policy options will be:
No returns accepted
30-day buyer-paid returns
30-day free returns
60-day buyer-paid returns
60-day free returnsAn ebay even if buyer purchase by mistake they told me we have to cover there shipping
Thank you for posting this!
06-06-2018 12:31 PM
"Ebay has a complete lack of trust in me. Why do they feel the need to get involved with my sales transactions? Doesnt my record here justify to them that I am a trustworthy seller? Its very sad that Ebay doesnt trust the sellers that made Ebay. "
Agreed. Well said.
06-06-2018 03:44 PM
"Our simplified return policy options will help drive a retail-standard returns experience for buyers and may boost your sales."
First of all, free returns is NOT a retail-standard experience. That part of their statement is easily dis-proven. For every large retailer you list who does it, I'm sure I can come up with at least two who don't. And even the ones you are able to name might have some caveats which don't make it a completely valid example. Plus, they probably have much higher prices than you find in a highly competitive marketplace like eBay. Sure you can offer free returns and no restocking fees when you're charging 10-30% more than the competitive sites, so it's not really a true comparison... In a nutshell, eBay is falsely creating the impression of a 'standard' when this is really just a money-grab which primarily benefits eBay themselves. That's also called lying folks. And it's an insult to our intelligence.
Second, how is this going to boost our sales? We'll all be on a level playing field on eBay, presumably. We'll still be competing against the same sellers, right? Is eBay thinking this is going to send thousands of new customers flocking over from Amazon? I'm highly skeptical... Now, what this WILL boost is the percentage of returns in relation to successful sales. There's already a huge problem with buyers not reading the description (or reading the title... or looking at pictures...) before they purchase something. Now they know they can purchase AND return something with impunity. What is the incentive for ANYONE to actually read ANYTHING now!? What is their incentive to actually work through a problem with the seller before returning something!? We sell electronics. We get a fair number of contacts from people who think they've got a defective item, only to find they were not operating it according to the instructions. (Again with that reading thing...) There are two things which I predict WILL change that are not mentioned in their press release. I predict a DECREASE in the amount of time it will take buyers to hit the 'Buy It Now' button, along with a corresponding DECREASE in the amount of time it will take them to hit the 'Return This Item' button. These are NOT two metrics that need 'improvement'. But seriously, the only business that benefits from more failed transactions on eBay... is eBay themselves. That huge problem I mentioned a few sentences ago? Yeah, it's about to become massive!
What has happened to the concept of accountability in our society? If I buy something in error, I don't expect someone else to pay for my mistake. I know I made the mistake. But it seems a minority (although increasing number) of people always want to blame someone else. So now eBay is enacting a broad, new, seller-be-damned policy based on what is convenient for the minority of people? This just enables even more people to be lazy. This is NOT a trait we should be encouraging. The minority will soon become the majority and, when that happens, we'll ALL be walking around complaining about why NO ONE uses common sense any more. Even the people who used to be in that minority will complain when the situation is reversed... Because, if you put the shoe on the other foot, you KNOW they would not be happy paying for someone else's mistake. So why are we being asked to pay for theirs?? Because they're more important than everyone else?
Now we're actually going to have to raise our prices to account for a minority of buyers who abuse the system. So EVERYONE pays more... when it can be easily identified who the actual 'abusers' are. Why should ALL buyers pay for the few 'abusers', when most of the 'abusers' have no real excuse for not doing a little work (reading, in this case)? Where is eBay dispensing the cool-ade (sic) we're all supposed to be drinking without question...?
06-12-2018 08:59 PM
well I missed this one somehow. I am a power seller and without the 10% discount I hardly make anything. Now to have to offer free return shipping for 30 days? Thats just plain crazy. Let Ebay offer to pay for returns. They make more money on my sales than I do. IWill do liek so many others and just sell outside ebay to make up the difference. I can beaat their system in so many ways. I was happy with 30 days and if their was a problem I would gladly pay refund and return. However I sell a tool that I make about 3$ on and I can see people buying it, removing their tops on their car and the njust sending it back. It will cost me 6$ to loan them a tool . Not going to happen to this old boy. Too many other ways to sell. Facebook, craigslist and many others that I can sell cheaper and make more .SO LONG EBAY Been a good 15-20 years but you finally screwed up too much.
06-12-2018 09:02 PM
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@vonandron wrote:I couldn't agree more! I've never had a return problem until this new policy went into effect. Now in the past few weeks I've had FIVE returns all claiming the item doesn't match the description. I'm happy to accept the item back but there is NO WAY I should have to pay to ship it to them, pay to have them ship it back AND refund the original shipping! I don't sell that many items and there is little enough net profit after all of the fees. One return like this wipes out the profit I'm making on three other sales. The problem is I don't see any other viable options for used clothing sales. How do we make our voices heard on this issue? Calling eBay seems to do nothing when you only end up talking to some poorly paid employee in the Philippines. eBay is so huge now that I'm convinced me leaving won't impact them at all and therefore they don't care.
will listen when thousands of people leave just like I am going to. Sales will suffer more than they think. They control the buyers but guess what, without my items there is nothing to buy. I welcomed 42 new people to ebay since January with a small item that I was selling at a very fair price. No more. They can buy it on Amazon.
06-15-2018 02:10 PM
I agree totally. I am a smaller vendor with a 100% rating. I sell used appliance parts, and some of those parts are very heavy. I recently was burned by eBay. I sold a working motor for $100 free shipping. Cost me $33.81 to ship. Two weeks return policy. 33 days later the buyer does not contact me but starts a return, claims it did not work. I called eBay was told to contact buyer, not 5 minutes later eBay sided with buyer They did not even give me time for a "what’s up buyer" message. I called eBay and asked them what the heck? Blah,blah answer. Ebay issued the return label. Got the motor back. it had clearly been installed and there was belt dust and he damaged the motor removing it, which told me the motor was installed and did work. I then tested the motor compounds and guess what it worked!! Surprise! I called eBay told them this, reminded them I have a 14-day return and he contacted after 33 days, then lied about it not working and damaged the motor, I offered to send pics but was denied. Did not matter. They gave him a full refund, charged me return ship. So, in total I lost $130 bucks. I cannot resell the motor because of the damage to the screw holes. I cannot afford to take hits like that. I should not be forced to, I am seriously thinking about closing the store and just not sell used parts anymore. Sure, it was a nice boost of income, but a few hits like the one I wrote about would quickly put me in the red. Just not worth it anymore.