12-19-2024 12:26 PM
I've been back on eBay after a few years time off. It's very frustrating when I see 0 views, (pages & items.)
I'm wondering if the only way to be seen now, is to pay for extra advertising and/or special sponsored placement.
Has eBay become too full for us small time sellers to have any success?
(One of my items when I finally found it, was listed amongst tortoise beads. I rechecked my details in the listing and it was all correctly detailed. There IS Bakelite mentioned- but I just don't get it.
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12-19-2024 02:58 PM
Try to find it like a buyer would. And CAN'T!
Then go to my store and find it.
Then back to a normal search and NOWHERE TO BE FOUND
Then end up finding it way down in "results matching fewer words"
Even though it's EXACTLY what I searched word for word.
I have seen that happen. Not often, thankfully, but it does certainly happen.
I suspect that there are some inconsistencies with how eBay treats certain combinations of keywords that often appear grouped together. Sometimes it seems that a group of keywords can be treated as an entirely independent keyword, distinct from the individual keywords that comprise it. So searching for the individual keywords out of order may not match the "group" keyword. Either that or the keyword substitution feature has some serious one-way mapping issues, where cap matches hat, but hat does not match cap. I do not have enough data to draw a firm conclusion, though, because the problem seems pretty rare, as far as I can tell.
If you notice that happening when you search for your item, I would suggest looking at some of the results that appear in the search proper above those "matching fewer words" results, if there are any appropriate matches, and to try making your title more closely match one of those successful listings in terms of keyword order. That may bypass the grouping issue.
That same strategy may help with the "Price plus shipping: lowest first" sort order filtering issue as well.
12-19-2024 12:36 PM - edited 12-19-2024 12:36 PM
I don't use promoted or sponsored sales, but since I have a rather specialized store I don't think it would make much difference. It might make a bigger difference if what you're selling is being sold by an abundance of sellers.
12-19-2024 12:37 PM
Since my last message, that one item is now showing up under the correct "purses" category. Interestingly, though, I have two bags that should be both showing under the category- only see one. I'm sadly thinking my items could show without spending extra money if a potential buyer is willing to look through hundreds and hundreds of pages.
Any secrets to get my items to appear for potential customers?
Thank you so much.
12-19-2024 01:31 PM
Get rid of the commas and dashes in your titles
12-19-2024 01:53 PM
@09stellanicole
Give em some time.
I have been listing several hundred car parts off of one vehicle. About 30 a day for the last week or so.
It's a good car, parts will sell. But, NONE have sold yet. (because they are not easily seen yet).
About another week and the flood gates will open. And remain that way for a few days.
Then it'll be a part or two per week for about 90 days.
Around the 90 day mark, it'll be 20 to 30 parts in one weekend.
Then back to one or two per week.
When it's slow? I can search for some of these items, and they are extremely difficult to find (using normal search methods).
Promoting seems to extend the sales "spurts" for a day or so. And it seems to shorten the time in between "spurts".
12-19-2024 01:56 PM
I find it so ironic that the people who come here complaining about the search are NOT buyers having trouble searching for items to buy, they are sellers searching for their own items. LOL
12-19-2024 02:02 PM
12-19-2024 02:05 PM
Searched: "bird of paradise double matted" ... yours came up.
Searched: "brass bridle bit styled" ... yours came up.
Searched: "necklace vintage pink coiled beaded" ... yours came up.
Shall I go on?
12-19-2024 02:12 PM
@inhawaii wrote:Searched: "bird of paradise double matted" ... yours came up.
Searched: "brass bridle bit styled" ... yours came up.
Searched: "necklace vintage pink coiled beaded" ... yours came up.
Shall I go on?
That seems strange to me. Do shoppers actually search that way? I mean does a buyer think to themselves "I'd like a vintage coiled pink beaded necklace" and enter that in an eBay search box?
I'd be more like search "vintage necklace" and just browse the page
12-19-2024 02:12 PM
Why is it ironic; it is in fact, the problem that I am dealing with?
When I buy, obviously I have found what I want and buy it. How would I even know if there were comparable or possibly even better matches for my search?
There could be a seller out there that has exactly what I want listed but I never see it.
I guess this isn't making sense; I'm truly trying to get advice.
Thanks.
12-19-2024 02:14 PM
The OP's listings are a strong example of what happens when you spam the title which should be the product name and key information.
If you want the Best Match algorithm to decide your listing is a poor match, this is a way. It is not a simple word match search.
@inhawaiiis correct, the titles on these listings are not what a buyer would type. They are not even close to what a buyer would type.
I am often mystified by how a buyer finds my listings. But I know that putting marginally relevant terms in the product name is not the way to get it found. And if a buyer sees these words in an impression, they are less likely to click through to see what is an amateur listing.
Between the negative effects on the software and the negative effects on an intelligent human, the result is no views.
12-19-2024 02:14 PM
@redlinear wrote:
@inhawaii wrote:I find it so ironic that the people who come here complaining about the search are NOT buyers having trouble searching for items to buy, they are sellers searching for their own items. LOL
Okay, find my item then
I searched for: "ford powerstroke diesel rocker arm intake short" ... yours was at the top of the page.
12-19-2024 02:15 PM
That IS what I do. I start with a broader category, see nothing and keep narrowing it down to my exact title description.l
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12-19-2024 02:16 PM
@09stellanicole wrote:Why is it ironic; it is in fact, the problem that I am dealing with?
When I buy, obviously I have found what I want and buy it. How would I even know if there were comparable or possibly even better matches for my search?
There could be a seller out there that has exactly what I want listed but I never see it.
I guess this isn't making sense; I'm truly trying to get advice.
Thanks.
@09stellanicole Wrong ironic. I'm with you.
And it's not obvious you found what you wanted to buy.
You probably wanted the best deal. Maybe not the cheapest, or the nicest, but you're here looking for the "deal" as you perceive "the deal" to be.
And you may think you found it. BUT, did you really??
It's hard to trust eBay search results anymore
12-19-2024 02:17 PM
@redlinear wrote:
I'd be more like search "vintage necklace" and just browse the page
I agree with you, but then this seller's listing would be so far down in the search results that few buyers would have the patience to get to it, and he/she would have to promote.