06-29-2018 08:18 AM
How can we all get the folks at corporate to stop the "Skipped Price" train from running off the tracks? Markdown Manager is now a disaster for us sellers who love giving our buyers a sale. Was it broken? Is "Skipped Price" the fix?
07-01-2018 09:58 AM
Didn't work for me would not put any of previous ones that were on sale
07-01-2018 11:05 AM
@dianes782 wrote:Didn't work for me would not put any of previous ones that were on sale
I'm sure any GTC that had an edit within the last 14 days would also be excluded from a markdown sale but that's not the point.
07-01-2018 01:09 PM
@yem_crystals wrote:I understand exactly why they did it....they want to phase out markdowns by making it so difficult that people will do promoted listings instead....that will shift the discount from the buyer to an additional commission for Ebay.
That is your interpretation only, but not why ebay had to make that change.
The real reason has been stated numerous times here and on other threads - that the way sellers were running sales was ILLEGAL.
07-01-2018 02:01 PM
Ever look at a "sale" on QVC? They show you retail price vs. sale price/how many people have bought/and how much time is remaining. Why? Because all these are designed to induce the customer to make a purchase. The actual worth of a product is determined by the market, all the other bells and whistles about "sales" are just a way to induce customer to buy. And no matter what you are shopping for there is always a range of price you can find. If I choose to list an item at the MSRP and put on a forever "sale", that shows to the customer what they are saving over list price I can do this, if someone else chose to only show the final discounted price thats OK too. In fact showing only the discount price is something you never want to do in sales. This lowers the market price over time. When my do sales in my day job, I never give customer a price unless at the same time i tell them how much "discount" they are getting off of list price.
Going back to the QVC example, the fact that both retail and sale price are listed as time counts down is NOT an accident. Psychology of retail tells us that you want to make the customer feel that the item is limited, they are getting a good deal, and there are many other customers who are also satisfied with the product. Next time you see a commercial on TV you will find aspects of all these elements. If the customer feels like they are not getting a quality product, the item's review will suffer and eventually they will stop buying because it is of low quality. Ebay's feedback system already has this covered. Arbitrarly forcing a 14 day waiting period between sales is makes no business sense from a sales perspective. Did anyone at ebay goto business school and study marketing at all?
07-01-2018 02:07 PM
07-01-2018 02:26 PM
did any one read the wish.com settlement? When a company settles, it means they did not wish to litigate. In this particular case, each customer would be entitled to $3-20 of damages and they'd have to show proof that their item can be purchased else where for less than what they would have otherwise paid at Wish and fill out a form. Would you do this for $3-20? I wouldn't. An informed consumer is responsible for making their own disiscions. There should not be a reward for stupidity. This sounds like to me a frevilous lawsuit that some disgruntled customer who wanted to game the legal system found some lawyers looking for a big pay day. A quick look at wish's website shows no signs of any change, still 90% sales or 70% off or what ever.
07-01-2018 02:34 PM
07-01-2018 02:50 PM
Ok so before the Skipped Price bomb went off I was definitely seeing an increase in watchers and sales. when I have had a 6% off sale on Thurs/Friday and then %10 over the weekend into Monday. Now I have nothing to get anyone's attention each weekend. Thanks ebay, this is costing me for sure which must be COSTING YOU SOMETHING TOO (some small justice).
07-01-2018 05:05 PM
Same here. All morning trying to get something going for my customers. Nothing.
Nuff said
07-01-2018 05:11 PM
@little_angel wrote:
Ever look at a "sale" on QVC? They show you retail price vs. sale price/how many people have bought/and how much time is remaining. Why? Because all these are designed to induce the customer to make a purchase. The actual worth of a product is determined by the market, all the other bells and whistles about "sales" are just a way to induce customer to buy. And no matter what you are shopping for there is always a range of price you can find. If I choose to list an item at the MSRP and put on a forever "sale", that shows to the customer what they are saving over list price I can do this, if someone else chose to only show the final discounted price that's OK too. In fact showing only the discount price is something you never want to do in sales. This lowers the market price over time. I do B2B sales in my day job, I never give customer a price unless at the same time I tell them how much "discount" they are getting off of list price.
Going back to the QVC example, the fact that both retail and sale price are listed as time counts down is NOT an accident. Psychology of retail tells us that you want to make the customer feel that the item is limited, they are getting a good deal, and there are many other customers who are also satisfied with the product. Next time you see a commercial on TV you will find aspects of all these elements. If the customer feels like they are not getting a quality product, the item's review will suffer and eventually they will stop buying because it is of low quality. Ebay's feedback system already has this covered. Arbitrarily forcing a 14 day waiting period between sales is makes no business sense from a sales perspective. Did anyone at ebay go to business school and study marketing at all?
Does QVC tell you the percentage off of the sale, 10% 20% 30% etc.
Or do they just give you the sale price?
07-01-2018 05:50 PM
07-01-2018 05:59 PM
@dmclothesaddict wrote:
How do you cheat on pricing?
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Let us say the manufacturers suggested price is $300.
But the actual price you and everyone usually lists at is $200.
You would never list is for $300 and never have because it is unrealistic.
So some sellers were bumping the price up to $300, and then 30 minutes later slashing it to $150 and calling it a 50% off sale. That is illegal.
In order for it to be a true 50% off the price would have to be half of $200, the price you would normally sell it for.
07-01-2018 06:07 PM
QVC Price =199.99
QVC2 BigDeal = 149.99.
1:49 remaining
If you are looking for a percentage it doesn't have that but 199.99 crossed out and showing 149.99. That's the point, and QVC has 100% descretion over how long their sale lasts, if to extend the sale, or whatever. Why would ebay put in an arbritraray sale lockout after one ends when it is known that, showing limited time/quantity, sale price vs. retail price tactics work?
07-01-2018 06:12 PM
And that is why what they are doing is fine.
But sellers here on markdown manager use a percentage off as a sale.
But percentage off what amount is where the problem arises.
07-01-2018 07:04 PM
the market decides what the price is, I can list a pair of sox for a million dollars and put it on "sale" at 99.9999% off or $1 for "limited time offer". Only a very incompetent shopper would take this "deal" over someone selling the same sox for $0.50, if all else are held equal. But for a more realistic example, if the sox were listed at $2 with a 50% sale vs. someone listing the same sox at $0.50 no sale, but I have better feedback than the other seller, a customer may very well choose to buy my more expensive sox. What I am saying is for a professional seller, he or she should have all the tools that a sales person would need to convert viewers to buyers, limiting the tools sales people have is a sure way for seller to lose. In the end, the customer will make a decision on a purchase based not just on price alone. I saw an example of someone posting above who puts on weekend sales vs. week day sales. I've also done the same, but the work wasn't worth the sales lift that I could tell. However if someone wants to do that to help sell his products, why should ebay limit that option? ebay wants conversion (fees) without issues (returns, calls to their help center, etc.) I can not understand for the life of me who this policy was intented to benefit.