Ok. Let's discuss your comment objectively.
Yes, I am upset, for the reasons I stated. Lately we have had discussions over what the rules are with an INR, the whole reason for this thread. Some have stated a buyer can open an INR at any time they please. That's not true. This thread furthers the evidence of that.
You keep saying the seller has 5 day handling. You have NOT proven they do. You did not buy the item, see the delivery window, or have any involvement in this purchase. I did. You and others have continued to assert something based off ONE sold listing the seller had. No one spent any time looking at any more of that sellers solds, so you continue to make a false assertion of their handling time. We already know a seller can set that handling time DIFFERENTLY for each listing they make.
You complain about me pointing out who' job is what, yet YOU have not proven or shown the seller has done their job. Don't you think it would behoove you to prove the seller HAS in fact done THEIR job before scolding me for complaining the seller did not? Otherwise it looks to the casual reader, like you are belittling me for no real reason.
And then there you are, still harping on about the feedback. First, we know feedback does NOT count against your seller metrics. The INR case WILL, but not feedback. You and a few others seem enraged about the seller getting a neg. Is feedback designed for relating your experince? Well yes, that's exactly what feedback is designed for. So what really, is your beef with the neg? The seller didn't ship it, and they did not post tracking. They never contacted me and let me know about any problems either. So my expectations were nothing more than what the seller had set when they listed the item. The seller failed miserably to uphold their end. If you default with the bank, they are going to report it to the credit bureau. Same thing, same reason there is a system in place. It records your record of performance.
Sellers here will be gung ho about reporting buyers not paying, abusing returns or any other bad action on the buyer's part. Yet when a seller messes up, do you think buyers should just "ignore" it? Lol. Again, are sellers here supposed to be bowed to? Are buyers supposed to hold sellers to some blameless status? When exactly DO you think a seller should receive negative feedback? Because I'm trying to find your logic here. I bring forth my experince, and most want to do nothing but blame me, belittle me, and give a false impression how the sale went down. A few got it, understood it, and said yes, the seller messed up.
What's funny is, sellers here are ALWAYS complaining about buyers, eBay, and everything else. This thread really exposed some unflattering examples of some of the sellers here. Some seem to think they do no wrong, and that sellers are ALWAYS somehow picked on and abused. The seller I am dealing with is not being picked on. They screwed up royally. And to defend their actions is senseless. And if you rally want to get down to it.... Even if the seller did have 5 days handling (which they didn't), they are STILL WAY WAY WAY past the 5 days handling. Sellers here who even would entertain the seller has any wiggle room given that fact, have no comprehension of what it is to be a good seller.
The proper response from the seller SHOULD be "Sorry! I messed up. Would you like a full refund, or would you like me to ship the item?". The seller first and foremost should have OWNED up to their mistake. So far, no response. What's that say about the seller? You going to defend that in 24 hours the seller hasn't responded to the case? Should eBay give this guy MORE traffic? Lol.
A sale is NOT one sided, but slanted toward the buyer. The buyer is MORE important than the seller, because the buyer has ALL of the control of the sale even happening. Without a willing buyer there is NO sale. There will ALWAYS be someone ready and able to sell something, but there is NOT always a willing buyer willing to hand over money. Today that is more apparent than ever, As evidence, there are MILLIONS of sellers here, with BILLIONS of listing. Were there that many willing buyers to spend, there would not be BILLIONS of listing still up. Every store would be sold out. So your customer service as a seller is pretty darn important. The attitudes on display here says a whole lot about how these same sellers are treating buyers. And it's also an indication why some buyers would leave and just shop elsewhere. You think other sites would be successful giving buyers guff like sellers here think they can give buyers?
The whole reason some small sellers here feel "shut out' by eBay is because of their own performance and attitudes. Big sellers are just getting it done and not sitting around here whining about everything. They appreciate their buyers and treat them right. Too many sellers on this board act like buyers are the enemy. Too many sellers think eBay is the enemy. And if that is the way one really feels, they just shouldn't be doing this.
This seller is NOT my enemy. I just want my money back. I don't have my item all this time later, just give me my money back. Since the seller can't be bothered to upload tracking, a refund is the proper thing to do. If sellers here do not agree with that, then you are ok with a seller stealing/holding a buyers money for no good reason. That would be another attribute of a bad seller.
I don't see anything unreasonable about my view of this transaction. The seller messed up. The seller has done nothing yet to rectify the situation. The seller got appropriate feedback for how they handled their "business". The seller will get a ding in their metrics for not handling their business in a way eBay deems appropriate. End of story. Sellers here can be outraged about it all they want, but these are the TOS everyone agrees to when we sell here, OR buy here. This situation could have easily been rectified by sending a message. Seller failed to do so, just like they have failed to respond to the case. Indefensible actions, for a bum of a seller. No seller should be treating buyers and their selling accounts this way.
