12-08-2017 11:44 AM
Hey Sellers,
I have been working a lot of you to enable your export business and a common theme I have found is that many do not know how to use our platform to list international shipping to specific countries outside of the usual listing flow for example Poland or Malaysia. Below is a step by step guide on how to list your items using rate tables and shipping policies to countries not outlined in the listing flow:
Note: You need to list your item before adding international shipping with the steps below
Apply International Shipping Rate Table
12-10-2017 10:48 AM
@bassileid5 wrote:
It is unfortunate we do not have these settings on our platform but I think these would be great topics for additional posts in the community. Perhaps a post about choosing the right tracking services according to country or one about where customs can be an issue and which port of entries to avoid delays.
@bassileid5 - How can an Ebay seller actually choose a port of entry?
Have you done much selling internationally yourself? Please tell us about your selling experience.
12-10-2017 12:34 PM - edited 12-10-2017 12:36 PM
@gracieallen01 wrote:
@bassileid5 wrote:
Hi Newview,
Many thanks for your feedback.
It is unfortunate we do not have these settings on our platform but I think these would be great topics for additional posts in the community. Perhaps a post about choosing the right tracking services according to country or one about where customs can be an issue and which port of entries to avoid delays.
Will look to put something together for you guys. Many thanks again for this.
BassilHmmmm, one might think, since it is required - by the platform - for seller protection, the platform would program the information into the settings. That would be a great 'objective' of a new 'team'.
What good is talking about it in the forums supposed to do for getting a workable option in listings? Doesn't ebay have anyone that can think these things out? Do sellers have to do EVERYTHING?
Yes, including absorbing the fallout and costs when these eBay genius ideas cause problems. Just more arrogant incompetence from eBay. Should we be surprised?
12-10-2017 12:40 PM
Hasn't it been said that Staff are somewhat experienced in selling here ... that many have their own selling accounts? If so, why do so many of these threads seem to show just the opposite of that?
12-11-2017 07:20 AM
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12-11-2017 09:27 AM
After getting burnt this week by an international sale that the buyer claimed INR, thanks but no thanks. All of our items will be domestic shipping only from now on.
YMMV.
12-11-2017 09:49 AM
@grapplingmonkey wrote:It is a tough cookie to crack , If you ship internationaly and have to eat 1 out of 4 returns and return shipping you could easliy wipe out profit on other 3 sales. because of shipping. In ideal world this wouldnt be a problem if all transaction were fair, but its too easy to say seller didnt describe ect. I understand why ebay is set up this way and love selling here, but its too much risk to sell internationally. Right now the chinesse market is huge for there antiques and I sell alot but i have to use diffrent method where there is no risk of return ect.
I also feel like alot of international buyers use reshipping services in US to get items which is better for me and lowers my risk as a seller
Wonder if they are running out of things to counterfeit?
12-11-2017 10:11 AM
I have been studying if I can write programming for a 3 axis CNC router. This may be good practice.
12-11-2017 10:18 AM
12-11-2017 10:44 AM
@a_c_green wrote:
@bassileid5 wrote:
It is unfortunate we do not have these settings on our platform but I think these would be great topics for additional posts in the community. Perhaps a post about choosing the right tracking services according to country or one about where customs can be an issue and which port of entries to avoid delays.Well, First Class Package International will only give you a Delivered status to certain countries (those listed on the USPS website here). Of those, some are more reliable than others at actually holding up their end of the deal, and if they don't, you're out of luck if the buyer chooses to file an INR. You cannot really choose the right "tracking service" for a given country; the best you can do is to select a Shipping method that will give you the tracking protection you need for that shipment.
As for selecting a port of entry, I have no idea how you would do that. Routing the package is not something we can control. We can only select a carrier and a shipping method, and hope for the best.
HI a_c_green,
Many thanks for your feedback. You are correct in your analysis.
In order to avoid INR cases, we always advise going with USPS Priority International as this will give you door to door tracking. We also highly advising going a commercial route (DHL or FedEx) into the more riskier countries like Mexico or Russia where the postal networks are not as reliable.
Regarding port of entry, you could always ask your carrier which port they will use and see which options they have for alternate ports. For example, into Russia, we find that shipments landing in St-Petersburg face minimal issues meanwhile anything going through Moscow encounters significant issues.
Great feedback and many thanks for your input,
Bassil
12-11-2017 10:49 AM
@tealt wrote:
@slippinjimmy wrote:
The 39 steps include every possible permutation....
For me it's just 2 steps, select Worldwide, enter shipping amount.
Me too.
Being very low volume and selling antique/vintage OOAK, those 39 steps in the OP are beyond intimidating. [Wasn't there a Hitchcock movie...].
I'm also finding that more and more of my international buyers are using USA forwarding services. Today I was very surprised to see a nice feedback for an antique cup and saucer from the buyer in Turkey. I've never shipping anything to Turkey.
Hi tealt,
Apologies for coming off strong in the guide.
Certainly if you can list worldwide and your shipping amount this would be best. We just wanted to provide guidance into every possible solution for our sellers who want to get creative when listing their items internationally.
On your point regarding freight forwarding, we are seeing many buyers utilizing freight forwarding. This is a great indicator of demand for your product internationally. If you can identify those tradelanes which are freight forwarding your products and then enable a self shipping solutions to them, you would very likely increase your international sales. Even greater if you can connect with the US freight forwarding service to take advantage of his competitive rates.
Thanks again for your feedback.
Bassil
12-11-2017 11:14 AM
@tellmemama wrote:
@mr_lincoln wrote:
@bassileid5 Thanks for that but a few items that would be helpful are:
1. What products are you refering to for that international shipping post?
2. Are you basically suggesting to ship to every country in the world?
3. I think what would be a good service to New Sellers is to have the Excluded areas you ship to in Site Preferences - Shipping Preferences set to NO INTERNATIONAL shipping until they gain some experience.
The whole process to turn countries on and off with the combination of Site Preferences and the Listing Tool International shipping settings is poor and not explained anywhere convenient. I got caught as a new Seller with two international sales even though I had No International shipping set on the Listing Tool when the items were created ... for whatever reason the Site Preferences were set to ship to the world. I lost money on both sales and in addition to that I got a brow beating from a Buyer in the Philipines who I recognized knew a whole lot more about how eBay worked than I did.
Anyway, I do very little international shipping and right now AND only on certain items under 4 lbs so I can use USPS First Class International Package and the Delcon electronic delivery confirmation AND only to certain countries ... if I can't track it I don't ship it and that is the advice eBay should be giving to ... every .... single .... Seller.
Agreed. And I'd even go as far as saying it's probably a good idea to block France and Italy even though they are on the E-Delcon list. Both are notorious for delays and "loss" once packages get to customs.
I'm not one to invite problems to an already crowded party.
Hi Joe,
Hi tellmemama,
Thanks for your feedback. Just want to address some of your points below.
1. We have seen sellers list an array of different products for international shipping. There is no limitation. We would however suggest using different services depending on what you are shipping and to which country.
2. Shipping to every country in the world could certainly have an impact to your overall sales. It does however have to be done carefully to find the shipping services that best suits your tradelane and product.
3. There is an option to exclude shipping location under site preferences. You simply have to go in and select all countries. This will notify buyers that you are not shipping internationally for the items you post.
Apologies for the experience you had shipping internationally. Your feedback however is great and we can consolidate it and review how we can improve.
Many thanks tellmemama,
Bassil
12-11-2017 11:16 AM
@enzo7117 wrote:
"Two-thirds of the world’s purchasing power is outside the United States. That’s 790 million international customers who are potential new customers for US retailers."
168 million active users and I can't even get one or two sales a day here on Ebay. Is this why I should list internationally?
Hi Enzo,
Thanks for your feedback.
Yes this is a global statistics. In order to have access to the 168 million buyers, you would need to be opened up for international shipping globally.
Thanks again,
Bassil
12-11-2017 11:30 AM
@bassileid5 wrote:
@a_c_green wrote:
@bassileid5 wrote:
It is unfortunate we do not have these settings on our platform but I think these would be great topics for additional posts in the community. Perhaps a post about choosing the right tracking services according to country or one about where customs can be an issue and which port of entries to avoid delays.Well, First Class Package International will only give you a Delivered status to certain countries (those listed on the USPS website here). Of those, some are more reliable than others at actually holding up their end of the deal, and if they don't, you're out of luck if the buyer chooses to file an INR. You cannot really choose the right "tracking service" for a given country; the best you can do is to select a Shipping method that will give you the tracking protection you need for that shipment.
As for selecting a port of entry, I have no idea how you would do that. Routing the package is not something we can control. We can only select a carrier and a shipping method, and hope for the best.
HI a_c_green,
Many thanks for your feedback. You are correct in your analysis.
In order to avoid INR cases, we always advise going with USPS Priority International as this will give you door to door tracking. We also highly advising going a commercial route (DHL or FedEx) into the more riskier countries like Mexico or Russia where the postal networks are not as reliable.
Regarding port of entry, you could always ask your carrier which port they will use and see which options they have for alternate ports. For example, into Russia, we find that shipments landing in St-Petersburg face minimal issues meanwhile anything going through Moscow encounters significant issues.
Great feedback and many thanks for your input,
Bassil
Not to all countries it won't. You even implied as much in the sentence after the one I bolded.
And you can't select a port of entry on any package shipments - it's going to go through the port where it ends up at.
12-11-2017 12:29 PM
bassileid5 wrote:Regarding port of entry, you could always ask your carrier which port they will use and see which options they have for alternate ports. For example, into Russia, we find that shipments landing in St-Petersburg face minimal issues meanwhile anything going through Moscow encounters significant issues.
Bassil, we do not get to quiz USPS (or, as far as I know, UPS or FedEx) on their choice of ports of entry. All we can do is fill out the paperwork, ship the item and hope for the best.
I'm sensing that you are here on assignment, rather than to distribute knowledge gained from experience. Let me suggest that it would be more helpful if you could compile a list of sellers' most urgent problems with eBay shipping, and see if you can get things changed or improved on our behalf. To be honest, I don't think you'll be able to achieve a whole lot, but it never hurts to try, and we are genuinely grateful to hear from anyone on your side of the wall. Good luck.