eBay

beautifulbeauty2012 · ‎08-02-2019

Most of us sick of this GTC slavery when you have to babysit listings, so eBay won`t relist what we don`t want to be relisted.

Ok, they grabbed those double relsting charges (the first one after 30 days instead of 31 and another one is when it actually got relisted) on July 31 and keep charging sellers as we speak (unless they had noticed and cancel 1-2 days before the time eBay displays.

If for the short run they are doing just great, I strongly believe eBay will lose in the long run. eBay`s inventory is already not so good (it looks to me pretty much like in 1999 with mostly flea market junk (well, treasures for collectors), and overload from Chinese alibabas sellers. I am seeing less and less good inventory with brand names in new condition. Many sellers have been leaving eBay to other platforms, and eBay is just a website without sellers.

Apparently, eBay doesn`t want to lose its top sellers and suing Amazon right now for "illegally recruiting top sellers". But if eBay doesn`t listen and keeps forcing GTC and even cheating with relisting fees, the only money they can make will be from Chinese sellers (who make buyers dissatisfied because of misleading quality and other sneaky things) and by suing competitors for recruiting its sellers.

I wish eBay work more on its algorithm to improve search listing, so buyers can actually see and buy items they are looking for instead of cutting the options and losing sales and stop this GTC dangerous game.

mam98031 · ‎08-03-2019

@hioctane62 wrote:
5 is easy peasy. What about the seller who had 5000 listings affected, or 50,000?

WOW, I haven't read about any sellers of that size being affected. Please share the link, I'm confident it is interesting reading.

@hioctane62

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

hioctane62 · ‎08-03-2019

It really doesn't matter... large sellers already used GTC pretty much exclusively.

mam98031 · ‎08-03-2019

@hioctane62 wrote:
It really doesn't matter... large sellers already used GTC pretty much exclusively.

Sure it matters. If there are sellers out there that have had as many listings affected like you said, it is very important information. I don't understand your reluctance to share.

It isn't just large sellers that use GTC exclusively or nearly exclusively. There are lots of small seller that do as well. But that still does not take away from the importance of those that don't want to use GTC and the problems this updated policy is creating for them.

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

this*old*attic · ‎08-03-2019

What double dips, Even when GTC remained 30 days for awhile, the boards were full of calendars to follow so that double dipping only happened once every FIVE YEARS or so.

And now it’s switched to monthly.

this*old*attic · ‎08-03-2019

My account wasnt affected either.

this*old*attic · ‎08-03-2019

Sure you do.

You can switch to auctions.

Ebay DOES NOT have to provide you with your favorite options for you to be “in control”.

this*old*attic · ‎08-03-2019

Oh for crying out loud, just because she doesn’t agree doesn’t mean she doesn’t know the issues. Mam’s one of the most patient boarders with those frustrated by the GTC change.

Shes probably been on EBay longer than you have.

this*old*attic · ‎08-03-2019

No one is claiming it’s easier.

You could not push against your free limit and list a few less to avoid the strain.

kh-gary · ‎08-03-2019

Hello everyone,

This thread is getting a bit heated. Please remember that it’s fine to disagree with others, but discussion should always remain courteous and respectful as required by the Rules of Engagement.

Thank you for your cooperation.

mam98031 · ‎08-03-2019

@this*old*attic wrote:
Oh for crying out loud, just because she doesn’t agree doesn’t mean she doesn’t know the issues. Mam’s one of the most patient boarders with those frustrated by the GTC change.

Shes probably been on EBay longer than you have.

Thank you.

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

starsportscards · ‎08-03-2019

Sure you do.

Ebay DOES NOT have to provide you with your favorite options for you to be “in control”.
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I already pointed out the fact where we are NOT in complete control of those listings. So technically, WE ARE NOT, then can be charged with deceptive pricing, whether we want that or not. It's really that simple.

greg5000 · ‎08-03-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
GTC has been around for years. There are many sellers that have used it successfully for years. But there are some sellers that it just doesn't work well for at all. I get that and I respect that.

Especially sellers that like to rotate their stock. This is a real issue for them. To say it is an problem is just a real understatement.

With that said it is highly unlikely that Ebay will go back on this decision. Ebay knows they have and will lose seller over this policy change. It isn't that they don't care, it is that they see it as the direction they want to take their company.

Ebay's membership has continued to grow over the years. Both for buyers and sellers. Many times not as much as we'd like, but it does continue to grow.

Some interesting stats.

https://smallbiztrends.com/2018/03/ebay-statistics-march-2018.html

https://www.statista.com/statistics/242235/number-of-ebays-total-active-users/

I'm surprised you didn't tell everyone here about the New GTC Issue ... where eBay is now improperly taking GTC Relisting Fees and Free Listings. Customers are being Improperly Charged/Double Charged and losing Free Listings.

It's an important part of the discussion and you've posted on numerous threads about this.

It will be interesting to see some stats on how much money eBay improperly took from sellers accounts?

greg5000 · ‎08-03-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
@beautifulbeauty2012 wrote:
You are delusional if you think you are in control with GTC. With the double dip GTC charges, which are still going on, sellers definitely not in control. Get real or updated.
Why is it that your opinion of GTC overrides the opinions of others? Why is it that someone has to be "delusional" if GTC works for them? Respect goes both ways. While I respect that you don't like GTC and do not want it to be your primary method of listing items, there are a whole lot of sellers that have used it as their primary way of listing for many years and it has worked fine for them.

That does not diminish the issues you have had. They are real and they are important.

Ebay doesn't "double dip GTC charges"!!! Ebay did have a problem when implementing the policy change of how GTCs will renew. The policy change to have the GTC listings renew once per calendar month instead of every 30 days was by request of MANY sellers all over the threads in the weeks after the GTC change of March 18th. Ebay agreed, they could change the renewal process that would be easier for these sellers to make the transition to GTC. So we had the policy change of July 1st.

Unfortunately it didn't get implemented without issue. There was an issue and it has since been resolved. In all my years of using GTC it is the first time I've ever known of such a problem happening. It is good to know they found the issue and fixed it so it would not happen again.

Now Ebay is left with identifying and helping the affected sellers. It was NOT all sellers. It was some sellers. I have no idea how many sellers and I'm not sure Ebay even knows yet. But it wasn't site wide for sure as none of my accounts were affected and I've checked with a few other sellers that I know and they haven't been affected. So that is good news.

So call Ebay if you wish to get your credits. Let them know you were affected. Or don't call Ebay if you are against doing that for whatever your reasons may be. That is completely up to you. There is no right or wrong answer. You just need to do what is right for you.

eBay Did Double Dip ... and this issue is not fully resolved.

Technical issues that take improper Fees and Free Listings from millions of customers is a very serious problem (and a Double Dip).

My biggest concern is that every seller won't be made whole.

greg5000 · ‎08-03-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
@beautifulbeauty2012 wrote:
Since you pointed only two types of listings (auctions and GTC), I assume you are not aware of Fixed price listings with different duration time? If you don`t know what the argument is about, why don`t you first educate yourself that eBay had Fixed listings for years until recently?
The two listing types, Auctions and GTC, are the ONLY two types of listings currently available on Ebay.

Ebay hasn't had FP listings with different durations since March 18th, 2019.

And this is why many Sellers are upset and leaving eBay, as they really liked Fix Priced Listings with Different Durations.

greg5000 · ‎08-03-2019

@hioctane62 wrote:
Just rest easy in the fact that sellers who are busy with lots of sales don't have time to post here, so the people you see posting the most are likely not selling much, if at all.