How`s GTC works for eBay`s bottom line (in the long run)?

[beautifulbeauty2012]

Most of us sick of this GTC slavery when you have to babysit listings, so eBay won`t relist what we don`t want to be relisted.

Ok, they grabbed those double relsting charges (the first one after 30 days instead of 31 and another one is when it actually got relisted) on July 31 and keep charging sellers as we speak (unless they had noticed and cancel 1-2 days before the time eBay displays.

If for the short run they are doing just great, I strongly believe eBay will lose in the long run. eBay`s inventory is already not so good (it looks to me pretty much like in 1999 with mostly flea market junk (well, treasures for collectors), and overload from Chinese alibabas sellers. I am seeing less and less good inventory with brand names in new condition. Many sellers have been leaving eBay to other platforms, and eBay is just a website without sellers. 

Apparently, eBay doesn`t want to lose its top sellers and suing Amazon right now for "illegally recruiting top sellers". But if eBay doesn`t listen and keeps forcing GTC and even cheating with relisting fees, the only money they can make will be from Chinese sellers (who make buyers dissatisfied because of misleading quality and other sneaky things) and by suing competitors for recruiting its sellers. 

I wish eBay work more on its algorithm to improve search listing, so buyers can actually see and buy items they are looking for instead of cutting the options and losing sales and stop this GTC dangerous game.

[beautifulbeauty2012]

if you "take advantage of GTC", why you are complaining the most out any other member here that you don`t have sales? Must be another way around (it is actually true, as some advanced sellers correlate GTC with the low or no sales - check Youtube).

And if you brought other competitors to the subject, don`t kid yourself. First of all, most of them don`t even charge ANY listing fees (Bonanza, eCrater, etc etc - and they have LOWER FVS, in some instances, much lower). Second, if some platforms charge a listing fee, they don`t charge you every 30 or whatever days, and they don`t double dip as we have been experienced.

[beautifulbeauty2012]

Since you pointed only two types of listings (auctions and GTC), I assume you are not aware of Fixed price listings with different duration time? If you don`t know what the argument is about, why don`t you first educate yourself that eBay had Fixed listings for years until recently?

[mam98031]

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@beautifulbeauty2012 wrote:

Since you pointed only two types of listings (auctions and GTC), I assume you are not aware of Fixed price listings with different duration time? If you don`t know what the argument is about, why don`t you first educate yourself that eBay had Fixed listings for years until recently?

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The two listing types, Auctions and GTC, are the ONLY two types of listings currently available on Ebay.

Ebay hasn't had FP listings with different durations since March 18th, 2019.

I'm unsure as to why you want to be confrontational on this subject.  What I've said in this post are facts that are supported by Ebay policy.  Because you may want them to go back to the policy as it was prior to March 18th doesn't change anything I've said.

[beautifulbeauty2012]

Glad you educated yourself that there is no more Fixed priced listings anymore.

What is your argument? You like your GTC, and we don`t. You still have your GTC, and we don`t what we had for years. We got your point that you are enjoying your GTC, but why are you forcing us to accept what we don`t like??

[hioctane62]

Just rest easy in the fact that sellers who are busy with lots of sales don't have time to post here, so the people you see posting the most are likely not selling much, if at all.

[mam98031]

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@beautifulbeauty2012 wrote:

Glad you educated yourself that there is no more Fixed priced listings anymore.

What is your argument? You like your GTC, and we don`t. You still have your GTC, and we don`t what we had for years. We got your point that you are enjoying your GTC, but why are you forcing us to accept what we don`t like??

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What exactly is your point.  GTC listings ARE FP listings.  It is the varying durations of an FP listing that Ebay no longer allows.

I have also acknowledged in my postings that GTC is not working for all sellers and I respect that.  Some have real issues and problems when trying to conform to the newer rule.  They are real and very important issues for these affected sellers.  Some with have solutions some won't, within the current rules of Ebay.

Because GTCs have worked well for me and many other sellers for YEARS, does NOT mean that we can't understand, appreciate and RESPECT the issues that face some sellers when trying to conform to this newer rule.

It also doesn't mean I'm or we are the bad guys.  Just because we can work with the GTCs successfully does NOT at all mean that it lessens your issues with GTC or the ability for us / me to understand.

I get it that you are frustrated, but I'm not "forcing" you to do anything.  Taking your frustrations out on me will not do you any good as I have no control over your issues or the policies of Ebay.

[beautifulbeauty2012]

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@hioctane62 wrote:

Just rest easy in the fact that sellers who are busy with lots of sales don't have time to post here, so the people you see posting the most are likely not selling much, if at all.

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So true! Even I never wrote anything when sales were steady, that was until April or May, and I was busy with other things such as listing and shipping. You proved the point - those who argue that GTC must not sell much and spend time arguing how wonderful GTC are.

[mam98031]

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@hioctane62 wrote:

Just rest easy in the fact that sellers who are busy with lots of sales don't have time to post here, so the people you see posting the most are likely not selling much, if at all.

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That is an assumption not based in fact.  

[myjunqueyourtreasure]

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@beautifulbeauty2012 wrote:

You are delusional if you think you are in control with GTC. With the double dip GTC charges, which are still going on, sellers definitely not in control. Get real or updated.

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Not every single seller got hit with this latest "change". One has to wonder what the common denominator was in those sellers who did.

[myjunqueyourtreasure]

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@hioctane62 wrote:

Just rest easy in the fact that sellers who are busy with lots of sales don't have time to post here, so the people you see posting the most are likely not selling much, if at all.

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LOL, not entirely true. Some of us are just addicted to the boards in between sourcing, listing, selling and shipping = )

eta: oh, and working 40 hours a week (can't forget that part)

Of course I'm a low ASP seller (on this ID at least) but I AM a busy bee. shipped out 23 parcels this morning (that didn't have to go out until Tuesday, but that's just me, I have no life lol)

[rockusone]

It may be old news to some, but it's still a MUST READ! Btw, it's noted here on the boards that eBay's TOS now state that members can NOT be a part of any class-action lawsuit towards them. How nice!

http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews.com/class-action-lawsuit-complaints/ebay-good-til-cancelled-gtc-...

[Anonymous]

Yes, it is in our control, but why should it be such a pain in the behind to have to check your listings constantly to see when they are going to end? I'm sick of it already and will probably never get my money back on this past week's fiasco. It was simple when the listings ended after 30 days and sat their unsold until I had the time to get back to them and make changes if necessary and relist them. It worked perfectly. Now I keep counting my listings when it is going to end, when do I have to cancel, is it too late to cancel? And what ticks me off is I DO make sales on the last day of a listing. By forcing us to cancel early it cheats us out of a day or so. If I pay for a 30 day listing, it should last for 30 days! Not 29 days with a cancel in time or else..... It's ridiculous.

[mam98031]

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@rockusone wrote:

It may be old news to some, but it's still a MUST READ! Btw, it's noted here on the boards that eBay's TOS now state that members can NOT be a part of any class-action lawsuit towards them. How nice!

http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews.com/class-action-lawsuit-complaints/ebay-good-til-cancelled-gtc-...

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It is the UA [user agreement] that ALL sellers must agree to before they are allowed to sell on the site.  A few years back they added that clause and all sellers at that time had to re-accept the UA to continue selling.  

[mam98031]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Yes, it is in our control, but why should it be such a pain in the behind to have to check your listings constantly to see when they are going to end? I'm sick of it already and will probably never get my money back on this past week's fiasco. It was simple when the listings ended after 30 days and sat their unsold until I had the time to get back to them and make changes if necessary and relist them. It worked perfectly. Now I keep counting my listings when it is going to end, when do I have to cancel, is it too late to cancel? And what ticks me off is I DO make sales on the last day of a listing. By forcing us to cancel early it cheats us out of a day or so. If I pay for a 30 day listing, it should last for 30 days! Not 29 days with a cancel in time or else..... It's ridiculous.

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@Anonymous 

I had originally thought that none of my accounts were affected by the GTC issue of the past few days, but I was mistaken.  One was.  It was for 5 listings that I was double charged for with the renewal date policy change issue.

I called Ebay to see what the resolution to this might be.  After he researched to double check what I thought I was seeing he placed a note on my account regarding the double charge.  If as the month goes on and I use up all my free allotment of listings, Ebay will issue me a credit for up to 5 listing fees as they are incurred.

For me that works just fine.

[hioctane62]

5 is easy peasy. What about the seller who had 5000 listings affected, or 50,000?