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How does this seller get all of their Negatives removed almost instantly? Something is going on

This person gets several negatives each day but they are almost instantly removed and the feedback revision number has not change. I bought from them and got burned which made me notice. Here are two screenshots taken a couple days apart to show my point. They had 23 negatives scrubbed clean all from different buyers. This has been going on for months

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Was 14 - 14 now 16 - 16 rolling in fast and furious now...  $429.75 OUCHY POOH!!!!

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Still a little scrubbing going on but trying to hide that better. hmm. Glad some well deserved negs are sticking. 

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@zamo-zuan wrote:

 

We were just contacted about this yesterday, and asked to open up a return so we could send a shipping label (our item is a free returns listing).

 

This morning he opened the return request, and TWICE since then has sent more messages saying "Label?" "Label?". 

 

And now has left a negative feedback saying "Still no return label. Wrong part". 

 

We are well inside our allowed time to send the label, and we send labels daily, so he would be getting it today. Seems like an obvious attempt to get us to send the label faster by leaving a negative.

 


I do want to say this...

 

While you may find your returns policy to be fine and dandy many a buyer do not, and I will explain why...

 

Had you ACCEPTED the return to begin with EBAY would have ISSUED a label to the buyer instantly, the buyer would then have been able to print the label and you may think nothing further of this however... By your using some alternative returns process you are in fact "allowing" the buyer to step outside of ebay's protection scheme... And once that buyer uses the label YOU send and they send off the product they are at your mercy in terms of the refund, you've already mentioned how it's "not your fault" (and I'm not disagreeing) but from a buyer's perspective it's very easy to get cold feet.

All you have to do is "play a game" after you receive the buyer's return and give some canned explanation as to why your returns policy won't allow you to issue a refund and now the buyer is out of the money and you have the item too.

 

Because the issue is...

Without the return's acceptance, ebay does not issue the label (you do) and when that happens tracking is not online viewable and that means the refund can't be forced through the MBG because the API will fail due to the fact that there is no online viewable tracking showing the return has been "delivered."

 

Buyers entering your tracking number manually into the case will most likely find themselves facing similar odds. 

The MBG's API decision-making protocol hinges on that little detail.

If there is no online viewable tracking that shows the item has been delivered, ebay's software can NOT force a refund (and if the software can't, neither can CS) and how dandy for you!

 

This has been an ongoing problem with big box stores and B&M's on ebay.

 

So by doing that you are essentially holding the refund out like a carrot in front of the buyer...

Buyers know this game all too well, at the last instant they will see that carrot disappear!

 

Of course you're the honest seller who would never do that but I've had many a run-in with sellers who operate big box stores and suddenly they can't seem to locate the return and all sorts of things that require a confusing array of phonecalls to resolve, all over a sub $20 item that should've been handled through the standard process and not the alternative method.

 

Just so you know why buyers don't care for seller-issued labels...

On ebay when a return is accepted / approved ebay issues the label.

That provides the integrated online viewable tracking ebay's MBG API requires for the refund to be forced should a buyer find themselves at the hands of an uncooperative seller, a buyer can only expect to win an escalation of a case when all the pegs are in their respective holes.

 

And when that negative the buyer left then disappears?

That's the last straw for many a buyer.

 

 

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@b8uvs9e-0

 

And, of course, since all of the buyers are honest, they will always send back what they are supposed to.  Right?  I mean, they wouldn't send back some worthless item, with DC and tracking, so that the bots can view it online and issue the refund, while they get the refund and keep the item.  Right?

 

What is it ebay says about 'faulty returns'?  'Just a part of doing business'?

Not saying 'NO' doesn't mean 'YES'.

The foolishness of one's actions or words is determined by the number of witnesses.

Perhaps if Brains were described as an APP, many people would use them more often.

Respect, like money, is only of 'worth' when it is earned - with all due respect, it can not be ordained, legislated or coerced. Anonymous
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@bubbleman2010 wrote:

Was 14 - 14 now 16 - 16 rolling in fast and furious now...  $429.75 OUCHY POOH!!!!


Found the seller!!!!!!!!!!!!

16 - 18

Seller since 09/20/01 ~~ this is my posting ID.
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Now 16-19

Not saying 'NO' doesn't mean 'YES'.

The foolishness of one's actions or words is determined by the number of witnesses.

Perhaps if Brains were described as an APP, many people would use them more often.

Respect, like money, is only of 'worth' when it is earned - with all due respect, it can not be ordained, legislated or coerced. Anonymous
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@gracieallen01 wrote:

Now 16-19


It's now 17 - 19!

Seller since 09/20/01 ~~ this is my posting ID.
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@iaintdoingit wrote: 
It's now 17 - 19!

I'm wondering whether it's dawned on them yet that they can keep up a steady churn of dubious listings regardless of the bad feedback, so they don't even need to worry about getting it scrubbed.

 

There's plenty of bad feedback now accumulating for anyone who bothers to research their seller before buying (even some of those Positive comments are a hoot Smiley Very Happy), and yet clueless buyers are still lining up to buy. At some point, you just have to concede that you can't protect people from themselves. 

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@a_c_green wrote:

@iaintdoingit wrote: 
It's now 17 - 19!

I'm wondering whether it's dawned on them yet that they can keep up a steady churn of dubious listings regardless of the bad feedback, so they don't even need to worry about getting it scrubbed.

 

There's plenty of bad feedback now accumulating for anyone who bothers to research their seller before buying (even some of those Positive comments are a hoot Smiley Very Happy), and yet clueless buyers are still lining up to buy. At some point, you just have to concede that you can't protect people from themselves. 


It's my 'down' day and I am keeping another screen open to check for updates.  When the numbers go down (erased), I think I will ask the seller for her secrets of the scrubs!!!!!!!!  Just wonder what kind of reaction I would get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seller since 09/20/01 ~~ this is my posting ID.
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Just checked again -- 17 - 18!  How does a seller do this?

Seller since 09/20/01 ~~ this is my posting ID.
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Seller is on a roll now -- 17 - 16!

Seller since 09/20/01 ~~ this is my posting ID.
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im beginning to wonder are we on Ebay or Facebook?.....lol
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@trainsfortheages16 wrote:
im beginning to wonder are we on Ebay or Facebook?.....lol

I don't know much about Facebook so all I can say about this post is that this is eBay!

 

Just wondering how many sellers actually get away with doing this stunt.  Sellers work hard and the good honest ones do not deserve to be slaped by the bad ones.  Buyer trust is lost when things like this happen.

Seller since 09/20/01 ~~ this is my posting ID.
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This is just a shining example of ebay reality...

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@iaintdoingit wrote: 
Seller is on a roll now -- 17 - 16!

Well, back to 17-17 now, as a fresh one has just appeared. This constant cleaning is certainly keeping someone busy; that's for sure... Smiley Very Happy

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