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Getting harder to find inventory.

Like many of us, I go to yard sales, estate sales, estate auctions, flea markets, and occasionally second hand stores to source my inventory.

 

I am in my mid twenties and have been "flipping" since I was 13, taking after my father, who is "old school" and doesn't really do eBay, he sets up at flea markets.

 

When I first started going to auctions with my father, when I was about 8 or 9, he used to come home with an entire truckfull of stuff, not just junk, good quality stuff he could often double if not triple what he paid for it.

 

Fast forward a few years later and these TV shows like American Pickers, Pawnstars, Storage wars, etc put a huge wrench into the works.

 

You had people going out trying to earn a living and had little idea what they were doing. They followed TV, but let's be honest..TV is far from reality.

 

A lot of people who had been going to auctions beforehand could be narrowed into two groups: antique dealers and part-time eBay sellers. Part-time sellers had regular jobs, so they didn't buy as much stuff, they didn't have as much time to list things. Antique dealers bought well...antiques...so this left a huge list of things to make money on. Computers, electronics, trading cards, etc.

 

When the economy crashed in 2008, it become worse, because you had people literally trying to earn a living selling on eBay. Now granted, their were "full timers" beforehand, but not nearly as many.

Getting back to a "wrench in the works"...these people were desperate to earn a buck, and soon it became harder to make any money. To them, it was either buy a $100 item for 85 bucks and make $15, or go home broke, so profit margins soon started to evaporate.

 

That is when I received a huge upper-hand...a smartphone.  I was one of the first people to have one that went to auctions and other events. It was 2010 and I became old enough to start selling on my own. The "low-hanging fruit" things like old toys, antiques, etc always went for more than it was worth messing with. I started looking at the odd and unusual. Stuff I had never seen before. Often, it was as easy as typing model numbers in. I remember buying some kind of computer for a John Deere combine. I got it for $5, I sold it in 3 days for $950. Then a week later, got a $500 widget for $20.

 

For the next 3 years, I quit working. I could turn more in a week than I could working a crummy dead-end minimum-wage job. I was hooked.

But that ended pretty soon. About 2 years ago. While the smartphone giveth, the smartphone although taketh away. I used to do quite well at estate sales with unusual stuff. If they couldn't find in in 5 minutes on eBay, they used to give up. But now they could just whip out their smartphone and can find it.

 

Estate sales became an utter joke. They idiotically never realized selling something in front of 100 people is a lot harder than when you have 100 million buyers. People aren't going to stand in line an hour, and give eBay prices or more. Of course...the next day when everything was half off, all the "good stuff" magically  sold. Imagine that. The truth was.. the estate sale companies had their own eBay.

 

Auctions have become worse too. I live in the Midwest and you have retired farmers, ranch hands, etc with money coming out of their ears. Supposedly  63% of Americans can't come up with $500 in cash if their life depended on it, buy boy..you sure as heck would think otherwise at an auction.

As a matter of fact...of the past 12 auctions I've been too...I could buy stuff on eBay and sell it at an auction and make money, if they didn't charge 35-40% in fees.

 

The weird thing is....if you ask one of these people who didn't win the bid on something at a local auction if they would like to buy one you have, they won't. You would not believe how many times I've seen two old people run each other up to $100 on something, and I ask the non-winning bidder "Hey, I have one for $50, wanna buy it?" I have had this happen countless times, never had someone take me up on it.

 

Anyway..times are a changin'. Good quality estate auctions and estate sales that aren't insanely price are getting harder to find. People my age don't really collect stuff, and while I'm sure it's a generational thing, people my age range don't really have the money to collect things, and beyond that, so many people have collected stuff in the 70's and 80's, it will be a long time before that stuff becomes super-valueable. Try getting money out of a 1987 box of baseball cards. 30 years old and worth didly squat.

 

So in the next 20 years....a lot of people who collect will be dead. Just look at the market on a lot of stuff between the past 20 years. Stuff that was worth $500 in the 90's MIGHT sell for $50 today. Porcelain, glass and china took a huge hit along with other categories.

 

It will be interesting to see what the future of flipping holds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@futurespast1113 wrote:

"My only hope is it comes back out and doesn't just get thrown in the dumpster when the owners die or go into homes"

What you said is unfortunately true. Just the other day, somebody told me that their neighbor's children put their father into a home and that his children rented a huge driveway length dumpster and threw all of his belongings into that dumpster.

What his children didn't know or care to know was that his things were valuable antiques. In the middle of the night I went into the dumpster with a friend of mine and found a Rolex Oyster perpetual watch, an ancient Chinese Warring States sword with carved Jade hilt, antique Victorian painting gold gesso frames with the original glass panels, antique turn of the century-early 20th century wrist watches and pocket watches, WWII militaria, antique pottery Japanese Bonsai pots, silver, gems, rocks, geodes, fossils, antique china, antique camera and watch parts, etc...

It was the first time I've ever dumpster dived and now it will not be my last, lol!


Im a proud dumpster diver! There is a consignment shop here that tosses anything that no one has bought in 1 year if the owner doesnt claim it.

My brother and I hit them at least once a month and we always get at least one or two major scores and a ton of nicer clothes that we usually donate to community action programs.

 

We've gotten antique cookoo clocks, designer bags, bags and bags of vintage to moden jewelry ect. 99% of it the owner wanted an unrealistic price and decided to either not reclaim it or tell them to chuck it. I actually got my current set of pots and pans out of there lol

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I enjoyed reading the OP's opening post and identify with & agree with so much of it.  I don't think it's ever been real easy to make a GOOD living dealing in *secondhand* stuff, but many have been able to make at least a small living at it.  In my city, secondhand shops open up and mostly close back down again in a few months or couple of years.  Just not THAT many buying used stuff at prices high enough to actually make a living from it on the selling end. 

 

And the antique shops much slower than they were twenty years ago.  Yes, the elder collectors are now dumping instead of adding to their collections, and their children don't want the stuff at the end.  But, eventually as folks age a bit more and get past the "collecting experiences instead of things" stage of their lives, they actually begin to accumulate their own material possessions.. just not the old stuff their folks cherished.  So less demand for the old glass, the carved antique furniture pieces.  Not so much interest in the really old stuff, but...  something is always *in* and so mid-century is hot right now and selling extremely well.  High end decor and furnishings always seems to sell really well if you keep up with the trends.

 

But I sure do agree with you about how hard it is to make a living here by selling used stuff these days.  I know of several who struggle and actually stagger under the effort.  I think it's hard to find that niche that will sell well for you, and profitably, all the time... and then keep up with it as your niche morphs and morphs again over the years. 

 

Fun though!  Ya?  Smiley Very Happy

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@prescott4 wrote:

@futurespast1113 wrote:

"My only hope is it comes back out and doesn't just get thrown in the dumpster when the owners die or go into homes"

What you said is unfortunately true. Just the other day, somebody told me that their neighbor's children put their father into a home and that his children rented a huge driveway length dumpster and threw all of his belongings into that dumpster.

What his children didn't know or care to know was that his things were valuable antiques. In the middle of the night I went into the dumpster with a friend of mine and found a Rolex Oyster perpetual watch, an ancient Chinese Warring States sword with carved Jade hilt, antique Victorian painting gold gesso frames with the original glass panels, antique turn of the century-early 20th century wrist watches and pocket watches, WWII militaria, antique pottery Japanese Bonsai pots, silver, gems, rocks, geodes, fossils, antique china, antique camera and watch parts, etc...

It was the first time I've ever dumpster dived and now it will not be my last, lol!


Im a proud dumpster diver! There is a consignment shop here that tosses anything that no one has bought in 1 year if the owner doesnt claim it.

My brother and I hit them at least once a month and we always get at least one or two major scores and a ton of nicer clothes that we usually donate to community action programs.

 

We've gotten antique cookoo clocks, designer bags, bags and bags of vintage to moden jewelry ect. 99% of it the owner wanted an unrealistic price and decided to either not reclaim it or tell them to chuck it. I actually got my current set of pots and pans out of there lol


Not sure if this is your seller ID, but if it were me I would not let buyers know you get your inventory from a dumpster.  For me that is a big turn off.

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Agree with so much of your post. I started off at auctions, reselling at the swap meet back in the 90's. I could always fill my truck at the estate auction for 20-25.00. I thought those days would last forever, and kick myself I didn't have more drive.

 

In the early 2000's, I began selling on Ebay (different account). Did pretty good for a few years, then when the second scammer team fleeced me I decided to stick with the swap meet and try the A-Z place. Of course, they began raising their fees there, as well as gating things. Contemplated my own branding, but read a few to many accounts of them stealing the branding after demanding manufacturing reciepts.

 

So here comes the shows. I knew by the second storage auction one that they were planting merchandise. Had bought hundreds and no way no how were they finding so many treasures in almost every one. Then I noticed instead of 15-20 of us in the auction trail, more than a hundred people were showing up. 10x20 units that were going for 100-200.00 were now going as high as 2000.00. Insane.

 

I still buy in bulk, still sell at the swap meet. And every weekend the dealers who come very early pick me as I target them with 1/4-1/2 my load. Then I relax and let the gravy roll in from the people wanting normal everyday things like dvd's, dishes, games etc. So you may want to start looking around for guys like me. I am often willing to take well less than half what completed listings show here. I noticed years ago some of my regular buyers would often have things they bought from me 6 months later, and I had already rolled that money 10 or 20 times.

 

But yeah, those were good days before everyone thought they could get rich. And as others pointed out, and I saw this long ago. The people who coveted many of the antiques are slowly moving to fixed incomes, or worse passing away. The newer generation doesn't care about much of that stuff. Elvis? The market has flooded with so much stuff, and many with disposable income now vaguely remember grandma liked him. Someone else pointed out how they now mass produce everything. Sports cards, comics etc. The days of rarity in some cases may reach into stuff from the 80's, so if you get a chance to target toys and such from before then you probably have a couple decades to make some kind of profit on them.

 

Good luck and thanks for an awesome post. Was very refreshing to read this amidst all the Ebay is screwing me, buyer is screwing me posts. Good luck to you and the rest here who still strive to make this work.

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Not my selling ID lol and I never reveal my sources, unless the finding of the item tells a good story
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Hi,

It was my first time dumpster diving and I liked the items so much I am not re-selling them.

 

It was such a shame seeing this man's life in the garbage. Looks like his children didn't give a rat's behind about him and evey little piece of his life is now a piece of rubble. His kids even threw out family photo albums and his WWII things (he was a soldier as I saw his official documents in that dumpster), along with his uniform, hat, shoes, belt, medals etc...

 

Looks like they just decided to clear out pop's house as fast as they could to get it on the market immediately so they could get the house sold quickly. The neighbor told me they just had him brought to the nursing home 2 days before they got that dumpster. They moved very quickly. That seemed so sad.

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@coolections wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

Suddenly everyone with a junk pile wanted top dollar.

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 What I am finding is that people think because it is old, it has to be  valuable.

 And that is not always the case.  Many times old junk is still junk.


Just today we had a person selling an antique iron and swears it should easily be sold for $50. Seven completed and only one sold for half what he is asking. One was $10 not a single bid. Yes, it seems no one even checks sold listings anymore and assumes everything should be priced the same as a brick of gold.


That is exactly what all the thrift stores think. They have something "Vintage" and it's worth a lot of money. I would love to talk to the person who prices the old items and ask them where they get their prices. It's getting over the top stupid. 

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The next bidder is glad to hear that.

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@robot-hands wrote:

The next bidder is glad to hear that.


Glad to hear what - that a product they paid good money for came from a dumpster where there could be all types of human and other waste on it.

 

I doubt it.

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@emerald40 wrote:

@robot-hands wrote:

The next bidder is glad to hear that.


Glad to hear what - that a product they paid good money for came from a dumpster where there could be all types of human and other waste on it.

 

I doubt it.


Ever hear of washing and drying?

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@prescott4 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@robot-hands wrote:

The next bidder is glad to hear that.


Glad to hear what - that a product they paid good money for came from a dumpster where there could be all types of human and other waste on it.

 

I doubt it.


Ever hear of washing and drying?


Sorry, but no amount of washing, drying, disinfecting is going to make me want to bring that into my home.

 

In fact, it is making me queasy about all the items I have bought so far.

 

JMO, but if you asked the average buyer, knowing it came from a dumpster would not be a selling point.

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Whats the difference between a dumpster item, and an item thats been in a garage with rats crawling on it (and possibly spreading any number of diseases)?

Fact is, what most buyers dont know, wont hurt them if the seller cleans the item up, and dumpster dived items are far more common than buyers believe.
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That is exactly what all the thrift stores think. They have something "Vintage" and it's worth a lot of money. I would love to talk to the person who prices the old items and ask them where they get their prices. It's getting over the top stupid. 


Not just the stores either.  There's someone in a town a couple hundred miles away trying to sell the exact same items I sell for $20 - $30 each for $200 each (on CL) and doesn't understand why they aren't selling.  They didn't much care for my offer on the lot.

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@prescott4 wrote:
Whats the difference between a dumpster item, and an item thats been in a garage with rats crawling on it (and possibly spreading any number of diseases)?

Fact is, what most buyers dont know, wont hurt them if the seller cleans the item up, and dumpster dived items are far more common than buyers believe.

I would not want items from either place.

 

And to be honest knowing that product could come from those places is making me second guess if I want to continue purchasing here.

 

But it does answer the question of why I would never purchase clothes for me or my family or execpt for my doll collectibles which are always in their original packaging, nothing that was not new in the original box.

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@emerald40 wrote:

@prescott4 wrote:
Whats the difference between a dumpster item, and an item thats been in a garage with rats crawling on it (and possibly spreading any number of diseases)?

Fact is, what most buyers dont know, wont hurt them if the seller cleans the item up, and dumpster dived items are far more common than buyers believe.

I would not want items from either place.

 

And to be honest knowing that product could come from those places is making me second guess if I want to continue purchasing here.

 

But it does answer the question of why I would never purchase clothes for me or my family or execpt for my doll collectibles which are always in their original packaging, nothing that was not new in the original box.


That's where some the best stuff comes from sorry if it makes you queasy hahaha.

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