10-30-2017 12:49 AM
Like many of us, I go to yard sales, estate sales, estate auctions, flea markets, and occasionally second hand stores to source my inventory.
I am in my mid twenties and have been "flipping" since I was 13, taking after my father, who is "old school" and doesn't really do eBay, he sets up at flea markets.
When I first started going to auctions with my father, when I was about 8 or 9, he used to come home with an entire truckfull of stuff, not just junk, good quality stuff he could often double if not triple what he paid for it.
Fast forward a few years later and these TV shows like American Pickers, Pawnstars, Storage wars, etc put a huge wrench into the works.
You had people going out trying to earn a living and had little idea what they were doing. They followed TV, but let's be honest..TV is far from reality.
A lot of people who had been going to auctions beforehand could be narrowed into two groups: antique dealers and part-time eBay sellers. Part-time sellers had regular jobs, so they didn't buy as much stuff, they didn't have as much time to list things. Antique dealers bought well...antiques...so this left a huge list of things to make money on. Computers, electronics, trading cards, etc.
When the economy crashed in 2008, it become worse, because you had people literally trying to earn a living selling on eBay. Now granted, their were "full timers" beforehand, but not nearly as many.
Getting back to a "wrench in the works"...these people were desperate to earn a buck, and soon it became harder to make any money. To them, it was either buy a $100 item for 85 bucks and make $15, or go home broke, so profit margins soon started to evaporate.
That is when I received a huge upper-hand...a smartphone. I was one of the first people to have one that went to auctions and other events. It was 2010 and I became old enough to start selling on my own. The "low-hanging fruit" things like old toys, antiques, etc always went for more than it was worth messing with. I started looking at the odd and unusual. Stuff I had never seen before. Often, it was as easy as typing model numbers in. I remember buying some kind of computer for a John Deere combine. I got it for $5, I sold it in 3 days for $950. Then a week later, got a $500 widget for $20.
For the next 3 years, I quit working. I could turn more in a week than I could working a crummy dead-end minimum-wage job. I was hooked.
But that ended pretty soon. About 2 years ago. While the smartphone giveth, the smartphone although taketh away. I used to do quite well at estate sales with unusual stuff. If they couldn't find in in 5 minutes on eBay, they used to give up. But now they could just whip out their smartphone and can find it.
Estate sales became an utter joke. They idiotically never realized selling something in front of 100 people is a lot harder than when you have 100 million buyers. People aren't going to stand in line an hour, and give eBay prices or more. Of course...the next day when everything was half off, all the "good stuff" magically sold. Imagine that. The truth was.. the estate sale companies had their own eBay.
Auctions have become worse too. I live in the Midwest and you have retired farmers, ranch hands, etc with money coming out of their ears. Supposedly 63% of Americans can't come up with $500 in cash if their life depended on it, buy boy..you sure as heck would think otherwise at an auction.
As a matter of fact...of the past 12 auctions I've been too...I could buy stuff on eBay and sell it at an auction and make money, if they didn't charge 35-40% in fees.
The weird thing is....if you ask one of these people who didn't win the bid on something at a local auction if they would like to buy one you have, they won't. You would not believe how many times I've seen two old people run each other up to $100 on something, and I ask the non-winning bidder "Hey, I have one for $50, wanna buy it?" I have had this happen countless times, never had someone take me up on it.
Anyway..times are a changin'. Good quality estate auctions and estate sales that aren't insanely price are getting harder to find. People my age don't really collect stuff, and while I'm sure it's a generational thing, people my age range don't really have the money to collect things, and beyond that, so many people have collected stuff in the 70's and 80's, it will be a long time before that stuff becomes super-valueable. Try getting money out of a 1987 box of baseball cards. 30 years old and worth didly squat.
So in the next 20 years....a lot of people who collect will be dead. Just look at the market on a lot of stuff between the past 20 years. Stuff that was worth $500 in the 90's MIGHT sell for $50 today. Porcelain, glass and china took a huge hit along with other categories.
It will be interesting to see what the future of flipping holds.
10-31-2017 03:24 PM
Im in the same boat - my mom and aunt were big time Ebay sellers from day one and I was their "shipping department" all through school. At some point, you just STOP buying any thing. Just open the box nearest you, list it and sell it. I have done many sorts and re-sorts and more re-sorts to get items "organized" and I still find things in the wrong place or the right place but with hundreds to sort through to find it.
Yes at some point it really does become hoarding. My mom taught me that everything will sell eventually and I am hesitant to throw out or donate anything that I might be able to sell.
But also at some point, you need to admit that some listings are duds and pass them on as donations or put them on the lawn for a yard sale. I did a "purge" just last month at a community flea market with some friends to sell off the "dogs that wouldnt hunt." I was floored at how much money I made from just offering them for whatever folks offered me for them (a minimum of a buck).
I have dressers of clothes that are crammed full of OTHER PEOPLE'S clothes and dishes (yep in a dresser drawer) and BINS of vintage jewelry. I have lotted up the costume stuff and same size clothes and moved them out the door. We may be moving ourselves in a few months and I DONT PLAN TO MOVE ALL THIS WITH ME!
Set a goal - say 30 items. You will NOT BUY ANYTHING ELSE until you clear out 30 items.
10-31-2017 03:29 PM
@emerald40 wrote:
@prescott4 wrote:
Whats the difference between a dumpster item, and an item thats been in a garage with rats crawling on it (and possibly spreading any number of diseases)?
Fact is, what most buyers dont know, wont hurt them if the seller cleans the item up, and dumpster dived items are far more common than buyers believe.I would not want items from either place.
And to be honest knowing that product could come from those places is making me second guess if I want to continue purchasing here.
But it does answer the question of why I would never purchase clothes for me or my family or execpt for my doll collectibles which are always in their original packaging, nothing that was not new in the original box.
I get NIB collectables out of that bin regularly.
10-31-2017 03:32 PM
@emerald40 wrote:
@prescott4 wrote:
Whats the difference between a dumpster item, and an item thats been in a garage with rats crawling on it (and possibly spreading any number of diseases)?
Fact is, what most buyers dont know, wont hurt them if the seller cleans the item up, and dumpster dived items are far more common than buyers believe.I would not want items from either place.
And to be honest knowing that product could come from those places is making me second guess if I want to continue purchasing here.
But it does answer the question of why I would never purchase clothes for me or my family or execpt for my doll collectibles which are always in their original packaging, nothing that was not new in the original box.
If you've ever cleaned out a house that has been sitting empty for 40 or 50 years, it's a lot worse than a dumpster.
And at least you can't fall through the floor of a dumpster.
10-31-2017 03:36 PM
@d-k_treasures wrote:
@emerald40 wrote:
@prescott4 wrote:
Whats the difference between a dumpster item, and an item thats been in a garage with rats crawling on it (and possibly spreading any number of diseases)?
Fact is, what most buyers dont know, wont hurt them if the seller cleans the item up, and dumpster dived items are far more common than buyers believe.I would not want items from either place.
And to be honest knowing that product could come from those places is making me second guess if I want to continue purchasing here.
But it does answer the question of why I would never purchase clothes for me or my family or execpt for my doll collectibles which are always in their original packaging, nothing that was not new in the original box.
If you've ever cleaned out a house that has been sitting empty for 40 or 50 years, it's a lot worse than a dumpster.
And at least you can't fall through the floor of a dumpster.
That reminded me of a song even though It has nothing to do with picking for resell I feel it applies nicely.
Everything inside was left untouched
Except for what the rats had got
And the dust of time that showed its mark
Armed with candlelight and open eyes
Through the dark they fought their way
'Til every room was lit again....
10-31-2017 03:41 PM
@rolenboy01 wrote:
@d-k_treasures wrote:
@emerald40 wrote:
@prescott4 wrote:
Whats the difference between a dumpster item, and an item thats been in a garage with rats crawling on it (and possibly spreading any number of diseases)?
Fact is, what most buyers dont know, wont hurt them if the seller cleans the item up, and dumpster dived items are far more common than buyers believe.I would not want items from either place.
And to be honest knowing that product could come from those places is making me second guess if I want to continue purchasing here.
But it does answer the question of why I would never purchase clothes for me or my family or execpt for my doll collectibles which are always in their original packaging, nothing that was not new in the original box.
If you've ever cleaned out a house that has been sitting empty for 40 or 50 years, it's a lot worse than a dumpster.
And at least you can't fall through the floor of a dumpster.
That reminded me of a song even though It has nothing to do with picking for resell I feel it applies nicely.
Everything inside was left untouched
Except for what the rats had got
And the dust of time that showed its mark
Armed with candlelight and open eyes
Through the dark they fought their way
'Til every room was lit again....
Fits ............
When I came out of one attic, I figured I would end up with black lung. The coal dust was an easy 1/2 inch thick over everything.
10-31-2017 03:42 PM
@retrose1 wrote:
@coolections wrote:
@emerald40 wrote:Suddenly everyone with a junk pile wanted top dollar.
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What I am finding is that people think because it is old, it has to be valuable.
And that is not always the case. Many times old junk is still junk.
Just today we had a person selling an antique iron and swears it should easily be sold for $50. Seven completed and only one sold for half what he is asking. One was $10 not a single bid. Yes, it seems no one even checks sold listings anymore and assumes everything should be priced the same as a brick of gold.
A friend of mine just gave back a coat to a friend of hers after it rolled off ebay unsold with only 2 views. The coat is about 10 years old and is out of style, bad color, is not a designer label and was bought new at Pennys on sale, it is not down or wool just cheap polyester and she is selling it because she is tired of it and wants to get a new one. She wants $60 for it, that does not include my friends cut for selling it for her and my opinion was that you could buy a better coat cheaper new than what she wanted for that old one. My friend knew it too and told her, but she refused to even consider that it was maybe worth $10 if it sold at all. But she insisted because she knew that people would buy it once it was on ebay.
I hear ya - that is the absolute HARDEST part of selling on Ebay - managing expectations and being realistic - made worse by selling for friends who dont know how it works or what is reasonable. You have to look not just at what you are selling but at what is already out there for sale. Why would someone buy that coat when there are others for less money, cooler style, newer, better materials, etc. But they dont listen. They focus only on what they got and how much they want. You gotta have a market and a price range that work or you are DOA. This is also why I dont sell for others any more.
10-31-2017 03:46 PM
@662green wrote:most of my sourcing comes from thrift stores particularly goodwill . we have two in our area and for the past 2 or 3 months they have dried up completly.
I suspect that all of the good collectible items are going here on ebay .
the manager says all the donations are clothing now somehow I don't think that is true.
I've not been able to find anything to sell from there in the last 2 months and the garage sale season is over so my sourcing options are almost nill.
as others have ponted out even when I do find vintage items now there seems to be not much interest in them, trying to find the unusual or one of a kind is where I'm leaing towards also
Here's another side of that equation - I donate my duds to GW, SA, etc. It isnt necessarily that someone else came and snapped up all the goodies, it may be that there werent that many goodies donated to them in the first place. My "best and brightest" ISNT going in the donation bin and the odds are I ALREADY tried to sell it and couldnt so sent it off to see if someone else could use it. I think most other folks are doing the same thing - they have 3 boxes: trash, donate, Ebay.
10-31-2017 03:47 PM
@bubbleman2010 wrote:Free goodwillie and salavation army skim off what they know as goodie and sell it here on ebay. Folks are so sure they are getting deals both operations are salting in purchased merchandise to increase revenues. Unless you believe folks are dropping off brand $100.00 to $200.00 new sealed lego sets....
So true. There are a couple of Goodwill sellers here and others have auctions and tables at the flea markets now.
10-31-2017 04:00 PM
prescott4 wrote:
Whats the difference between a dumpster item, and an item thats been in a garage with rats crawling on it (and possibly spreading any number of diseases)?
Fact is, what most buyers dont know, wont hurt them if the seller cleans the item up, and dumpster dived items are far more common than buyers believe.
I think any buyers who have an interest in old vintage and antique has likely handled items that look far cleaner when they opened the package than those same items were when the seller initially found them. And I'm talking..... ACK!
Cardboard boxes in the attics and basements and sheds, filled with old children's toys and playthings... Stuff that was in the boxes amongst the mouse nests, the mouse nesting materials that might have been valuable papers at one time but now have been chewed into nesting material, with the nasty addition of mouse dribbles and droppings. In fact, still sticky from the mouse leavings.....
Old items stored back in the hen house on the farm? You know what those chickens leave behind, dropped in ever-thickening layers on top of everything. Old antique pans and old china and glass, enamelware... WHAT is that disgusting *film* on this stuff? But looking great when it's all cleaned up again.
The thing is, if you buy old used stuff, you have NO idea of what all may have been in contact with it over the years. You just hope it's clean when you open the package, and even then... sometimes it isn't. Ugh.
So much treasure hidden away in old water-stained dilapidated cardboard boxes, in amongst the cobwebs and dead bugs, mouse droppings, and years of accumulated dust...
10-31-2017 05:16 PM - edited 10-31-2017 05:17 PM
I love telling the only buy new people about some of the disgusting things that get left in the dressing rooms of dept stores and what was used to clean or wipe with.
Some think new means not used by someone else, and no, not really. Just think about what underwear the person that tried on those jeans before you was wearing.
10-31-2017 05:23 PM
I've been in some homes I thought I was having a bad LSD trip things seemed to be moving,but upon closer inspection I was OK it was just to cockroaches moving around on the ebay merchandise.... I do my bestest not to send out any dead cockroaches or leave the 59 cent salavation army stickers on the stuff...
10-31-2017 05:26 PM
When you walk into a place and that smell of human waste cheap perfume and must hits you you know you've found a honey hole its the smell o
10-31-2017 05:27 PM
of victory.....
10-31-2017 05:28 PM
@retrose1 wrote:I love telling the only buy new people about some of the disgusting things that get left in the dressing rooms of dept stores and what was used to clean or wipe with.
Some think new means not used by someone else, and no, not really. Just think about what underwear the person that tried on those jeans before you was wearing.
Yes, you do not know who tried it on before you.
That is why I buy bras, undies and socks in sealed packages.
And on clothes always make sure that the full tag is on there so it is not a returned item.
But I have seen clothes on the rack with makeup or deodorant and other scents.
I skip on past them.
10-31-2017 05:52 PM
If I didn't have a stomach of iron and very little angst about what might be being... carried... by my fellow neighbors and townsmen, I'd be pretty creeped out by now between what I wrote and what you guys added to it!!!
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