Fees Changes- Ebay vs Mercari vs Poshmark

[funfactorychannel]

Most who are in multiple platforms are aware of various fee changes.

So far eBay fees still hasn't changed past year much which is good. Avg fee of 15%ish to 20%.. # of buyers still goes up and down depending on day. 

Mercari has drop their fees from sellers and push it to buyers at a lower rate. I see no sales difference. # of buyers the same

Poshmark raised their overall fees and sales went plummeted. They tried to fake sellers by saying its lowered but overall its an increase of fees across the board. The Flat Cost + 5.99% for both seller and buyer on most items are higher than previous rate of 20%.

despite other platform fee changes, for me with eBay still outsell the other platforms. 

[robbie31415]

But it wasn't accurate.

And still isn't accurate.

And you still aren't seeing why.

But you made a post to claim you are right while while telling people not to respond even though you are making inaccurate statements.

Let me simplify this for you.

When Mercari released the change sellers were required to UPDATE their listings to get the listing put on the new system.

Mecari ENCOURAGED decreasing prices as method of updating their listing to try and increase sales by having a lower advertised price.

It was never REQUIRED. You could simply update your listing by altering your description for the change to happen without ever lowering your price.

It's clear that you misunderstood.

[mam98031]

I hope that makes you feel better.  I'm find, thank you.

[robbie31415]

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@mam98031 wrote:

I hope that makes you feel better.  I'm find, thank you.

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This post makes no sense.

Can you please clarify, thank you.

[valueaddedresource]

@mam98031 that article simply copy and pasted the exact same verbiage about updating listings from the original announcement that you copied and pasted yesterday - and yet, neither the original announcement nor that article ever explicitly state that sellers were required to lower their prices to apply the new fee structure or that they would continue to be charged selling fees if they did not lower their prices.

Also nothing in that article in any way backs up your highlighted words from your previous post:

That is interesting.  Mercari did this a bit differently.  When they started the fees to buyers program, if sellers did not reduce the price of their products being sold to accommodate the lack of fees, then Mercari continue to charge the seller the selling fees.  For sellers that did reduce their pricing appropriately the buyers were charged the fees

If you want to cite that article as a source backing up your original claim, please copy and paste the exact words from that article that you think apply.

Since you've seen fit to continue the conversation, I will ask once again - do you have any sources that show at any point Mercari said the only way for listings to be moved to the new fee structure was for sellers to drop their prices and that if they did not drop their prices, they would continue to be charged selling fees as a direct consequence?

Because that is what you claimed in your previous statement and that is the part that some of us are saying we do not believe is accurate.

[mam98031]

I apologize for stirring this up again.  I must read it differently than you do.

Listings created before 8:30 AM ET March 27, 2024 will be subject to a selling fee of 10% of the item price when a sale is completed, unless the listing has been updated on or after March 27, 2024.

I do defer to your information on this subject as being more accurate and certainly current.  My recent post was only to show when they first announced the change, what they were saying.  Clearly things have changed and the info you provided is far more current and accurate.

[stainlessenginecovers]

To charge Buyers to Buy has got to be the stupidest thing ever done in this day/age of E-Commerce.

In person gets away with it because it's in person and those going know in advance and since ALL in-person auctions do it, not much a buyer can do; go or don't go.

Same with Car Auctions.

But, e-commerce?? where there are MANY places to shop that do NOT charge a buyer. 

[mam98031]

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@stainlessenginecovers wrote:

To charge Buyers to Buy has got to be the stupidest thing ever done in this day/age of E-Commerce.

In person gets away with it because it's in person and those going know in advance and since ALL in-person auctions do it, not much a buyer can do; go or don't go.

Same with Car Auctions.

But, e-commerce?? where there are MANY places to shop that do NOT charge a buyer. 

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Well buyers are charged the fees, even here, just in a different way.  Sellers include their costs to sell in the calculations they use [or should] to arrive at their selling price.  

But I agree, many buyers would not like seeing the fees being charged to them.  It is more than a little unsettling I'm sure.  

Its also a little educational for some buyers as some seem to think it doesn't cost anything to sell items.  But again, not a winning policy IMHO.

[valueaddedresource]

@mam98031 I have no idea what you are talking about - the language you copied and pasted yesterday was the original language used by Mercari when they announced this change, so whether or not other things changed down the road is irrelevant.

What they originally said was:

Seller Fees

Effective March 27, 2024 at 8:30 AM ET, the selling fee for new listings will be 0%

Note: Listings created before 8:30 AM ET on March 27, 2024 will be subject to a selling fee of 10% of the item price when a sale is completed unless the listing has been updated on or after March 27, 2024.

There is absolutely nothing in that statement that says anything about dropping prices, period.

So it was not and is not accurate to say: "When they started the fees to buyers program, if sellers did not reduce the price of their products being sold to accommodate the lack of fees, then Mercari continue to charge the seller the selling fees.  For sellers that did reduce their pricing appropriately the buyers were charged the fees"

Everything you have said in this entire thread shows you simply misunderstood or for some reason believe the only way to "update" a listing is to lower the price so those terms must be synonymous - which again, they aren't and never were, period.

Out of curiosity, if eBay uses the word "updated" in regard to a listing in any announcement or policy, what is your understanding of the word in that context? Would you also believe it would only refer to lowering your price?

[gamersbaystore]

You clearly misunderstood this part, "Unless the listings are updated." I can clarify you do not have to lower the price to avoid the additional fees on Mercari, you just have to update the listing with some sort of a change. This could be editing the title or description, adding images, etc.

I sell their on a regular basis, I would know.

[gamersbaystore]

You are 100% correct. You just have to edit the preexisting listings on Mercari in some way, and the additional fees are instantly dropped when the item sells.

[mam98031]

Maybe I did.  I've apologized a couple of times at least.  Not sure what more I can really say.  I've also said that @valueaddedresource  is correct.  And since you sell there, you would certainly know the correct info too.  

[mam98031]

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@gamersbaystore wrote:

You are 100% correct. You just have to edit the preexisting listings on Mercari in some way, and the additional fees are instantly dropped when the item sells.

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What does that mean?  You have to edit them for what reason?  What happens if you didn't edit them?

[robbie31415]

I didn't know that updating ended up not being necessary at some point.

At one point @valueaddedresource mentioned something that due to some issues they ended up doing a mass push to the new system. 

I probably spent time updating when I didn't need to since I didn't rush to do it.

[robbie31415]

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@mam98031 wrote:

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@gamersbaystore wrote:

You are 100% correct. You just have to edit the preexisting listings on Mercari in some way, and the additional fees are instantly dropped when the item sells.

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What does that mean?  You have to edit them for what reason?  What happens if you didn't edit them?

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I just want to say. I felt it was pretty self explanatory. You have to look at the context of the post they were responding to.

[valueaddedresource]

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@robbie31415 wrote:

I didn't know that updating ended up not being necessary at some point.

At one point @valueaddedresource mentioned something that due to some issues they ended up doing a mass push to the new system. 

I probably spent time updating when I didn't need to since I didn't rush to do it.

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@robbie31415 yeah I'm not sure of the exact date, but around the same time as the tech issues with the updates and when they went back to the old return policy after getting so much pushback, they also said 

"Mercari will gradually update all listings to the new fee structure in the coming weeks."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mercari/comments/1br05bf/mercari_will_gradually_update_all_listings_to_the/ 

And yeah...there were also a lot of people on Reddit who were a bit annoyed that they had wasted time manually updating when it ended up being unnecessary.