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Email from Webinterpret saying Ive been opted in. Is this real? More fun stuff.

I just woke up to 3 problems as usual. One big one is web-interpret cross border welcoming me and saying that ebay opted me in.   Im not clicking through anything and I know there were major issues in the past.   I never would opt in and have offered international shipping for 10 years.  Im at a point where I may stop all international shipping.  I had 2 - no pickups, 1 in Germany and 1 in the UK. Really Im at the point of about closing my store after almost 3 million in sales.

 

The last thing I want is being auto-opted into a program that is scammy. Also telling me I have to offer 30 day paid returns, which I will close my store before doing that. Ive always taken returns, Ive always shipped international but, I need to have some control over that. An overseas return is costly and buyers not wanting to pay customs is becoming common.

 

I want to sell to everyone, everywhere. Its in our best business interest but, when ever little thing is micromanaged poorly, we stand to lose more money and time which gives us no time to actually work on our store.

 

I called ebay while writing this and couldnt be told if I was opted in or not.  I was told to go to webinterpret and click a link and send a message and to report to spoof@ebay.   It seems rather antiquated that ebay couldnt tell me and that I have to write companies to see if Im opted in.  Its just one thing after another here.

 

Another issue some of you may be able to clarify for me.  Weve shipped everyday since the beginning.  Noone had to make us do this or threaten us with defects.  Yet of course they did. The most common feedback we get is super fast shipping or something like that.

it took us a long time to sort out usps as we had no full time carrier becasue our mail route was long and noone wanted it. For a long time, we were literally chasing carriers, running to the post office before close and always stressed out about something we already did but, to get that scan. We had 7 different carriers some weeks, all at different times. After a lot of begging, we got on a route for pickups becasue we did enough volume.  We have guy who comes everyday so it was a load off our shoulders.  Now we moved close by and the same guy comes and he's great.  The issue is now that due to our sales taking a dump, and some days we have 0-2 packages, it looks like we are losing our pickup.  USPS will not pickup on a route unless you do x amount of packages, which we no longer do and it is 100% ebays issues.  We never had blackouts and were on a constant climb until June 2018. 

 

Recently with the quadrupling of returns, we started charging shipping again. Things changed for the worse and free  shipping became an open invite to buy without thinking.  We have no discounts, I dont beleive anything we do can make Cassinni like us, so if we lose our carrier we will stop shipping daily. Not intentionally, as we will still do the packages but, we will not drive to the post office daily or have the stress of chasing down an unsuspecting mailman with a bunch of packages. We will have to put them out with scan sheet and cross our fingers.  We have a job box with a code and instructions on our porch. We can request pickups through the site again and add instructions but, we know how that worked out last time, which was sometimes packages wouldnt be picked up.  

 

This will surely tank our shipping % if a decent size load doesnt get picked up and I cant bare to call ebay everyday like the old days.  What will this do to our account ? We dont care about badges, weve been here long enough to have repeat customers and weve seen this terror ship coming at us for years so made lots of money and diversified, assuming that we wouldnt be selling here some day.  Of course I dont want to see the work weve put in to the store go away but sunk cost fallacy be damned.

So many unintended consequences have made doing business here harder.  We have almost always been 100% feedback sellers, we had all the discounts and shipped 6 days a week. 45k a month was average. Almost 3 million in sales.  Right now if 1 of of every item in our store sold, the value of current prices is 500k. much of that stuff we have in large quantities not listed on ebay. We also have enough inventory to quadruple the size of our store but, severely diminished returns if we go at it like we used to for much less. Many millions in inventory.

 

Weve done every edit and change over the years, weve tried free returns, done free shipping for years and now find ourselves selling much less but constant issues. The customer has almost become a unintended adversary. We block at the slightest hint of issue and look at feedback left by buyers when they ask questions.  This is the only protection we have when ebay stopped protecting us.  We have always been top sellers , never losing discounts and being crazy to get our scans and packages out as intended. Ebay has constantly made this harder to achieve through the one size fits all, treating us all like were crooks and not doing something right.  We used to rewards, now we get threats constantly. Psychologically, its pretty messed up. It doesnt matter if its un-intended, thats what it is. Constant problems, different solutions from different people and usually several cs calls or emails to get a halfway decent solution. 

This is different than what has ever happened here.  I would bet that some of us sellers were ebays best buyers as well. Now we see no reason to invest more and more time and money as the present and end looks bleak. I'll beleive seller protections when I see them. 

Started the day out with manufactured problems is becoming more the norm and it doesnt get ant easier, it just builds up until we are about to pop.

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@gracieallen01 wrote:
I agree, it SHOULD update. And, that would be a logical assumption.

 

However, that is predicated on the premise that Webinterpret does a follow-up on all listings they originally do, in all the languages that they interpret, and is aware that a listing has been updated, in the first place.  Then, the question would be, does the listing poster have to update on 'their' (Webinterpret) website, or just a normal ebay 'update'?


Right, that's why I'm suggesting that the OP simply try it and see. The translated listings are already out there, so try a couple of test edits to the source listings and see how it goes.

 

There's no substitute for simply testing it yourself; that is the fastest way to get an accurate answer, and see where that leads.

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Ok so maybe I am missing something but shouldn't ebay be upset wenig is taking on other responsibilities?  Are his wages at ebay not enough to support him and his family?  Us sellers want more from him and instead he is taking on other jobs and getting paid more money.  How does that make any sense, and why would the board at ebay allow him to do this?  This isn't in his contract that he cant take on other jobs?  Ebay pays him enough to focus on ebay and not elsewhere.

 

This reminds me of the episode of the office where Michael Scott gets a 2nd job to support his bad spending.  The company didn't allow that, why would ebay allow someone making over 10 million dollars to decide their work load is easily handled and to get a 2nd job.  Makes zero sense.

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i note that none of ebay's reps are weighing in since trinton gave up and went silent ,...
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@gracieallen01 wrote:
I agree, it SHOULD update. And, that would be a logical assumption.

 

However, that is predicated on the premise that Webinterpret does a follow-up on all listings they originally do, in all the languages that they interpret, and is aware that a listing has been updated, in the first place.  Then, the question would be, does the listing poster have to update on 'their' (Webinterpret) website, or just a normal ebay 'update'?


Right, that's why I'm suggesting that the OP simply try it and see. The translated listings are already out there, so try a couple of test edits to the source listings and see how it goes.

 

There's no substitute for simply testing it yourself; that is the fastest way to get an accurate answer, and see where that leads.


True, what's there to lose?  Webinterpret is closed until Monday, isn't it?   I think ebay is too - CS doesn't count.

Not saying 'NO' doesn't mean 'YES'.

The foolishness of one's actions or words is determined by the number of witnesses.

Perhaps if Brains were described as an APP, many people would use them more often.

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@dasarock wrote:
i note that none of ebay's reps are weighing in since trinton gave up and went silent ,...

Well, it is the weekend...

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You know, I think I have had that happen, too!  

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

A timely article indeed!  I saw that it was dated July 19, and takes you to this thread!  Thank you!  


Oh well, that is what I get for doing any reading or posting before I have had my morning caffeine as I had read the article prior and did not remember it taking me to this thread.  Sorry for the waste of time all.

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Being on the GM Board of Directors isn't another "job."  

Sherry

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@twnpopcards wrote:

@castlemagicmemories wrote:

A timely article indeed!  I saw that it was dated July 19, and takes you to this thread!  Thank you!  


Oh well, that is what I get for doing any reading or posting before I have had my morning caffeine as I had read the article prior and did not remember it taking me to this thread.  Sorry for the waste of time all.


I'm sorry, that wasn't what I meant at all!  It's NOT a waste of time.  This thread is just included in the article, and I thought that was very relevant.  The article is relevant on its' own, though, and it shows that this has been picked up by others right away and is considered newsworthy.  I'm not surprised because if you search online, you will find a history of articles that have covered previous Ebay Webinterpret situations as this goes back to May of 2018.   I was sincere when I said, thank you!  

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Some Board of Directors jobs, AFAIK, are largely as figureheads so the company will have the prestige of your name on their letterhead, and vice versa, so there may not be much required of him.  OTOH those jobs may be with charitable causes, and it states that "Wenig brings "significant expertise in technology, global operations and strategic planning" to the automaker's board." so perhaps his role will be a more active one.   Possibly it all depends on the company. and the level of participation they expect. 

 

 https://www.autonews.com/article/20180419/OEM/180419716/gm-adds-ebay-ceo-to-board-of-directors

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The articles about this issue here is good;

https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2018/5/1525916167.html

 

https://slator.com/industry-news/ebay-apologizes-over-webinterpret-localization-glitch/

 

For the most part, any topic posted here in the forums for many years about  WebInterpret  has been very negative; tricking users into automatically opting-in for click links for more information, opting users in even when they didn't click any links, difficulty in unsubscribing to something that users never subscribed to in the first place, multiple duplicates and listing errors, being charged for supposedly free listings...on and on.

 

Ebay reps respond like a deer in the headlights; they don't understand why many ebay abhor the cozy and  mutually beneficial and corrupted eBay/WebInterpret collusion.

Glitches my donkey.

 

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it states that "Wenig brings "significant expertise in technology, global operations and strategic planning" to the automaker's board." so perhaps his role will be a more active one

 

Nah, that's pr.  Have to make him look good to justify naming him to the BofD.

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@sharingtheland wrote:

it states that "Wenig brings "significant expertise in technology, global operations and strategic planning" to the automaker's board." so perhaps his role will be a more active one

 

Nah, that's pr.  Have to make him look good to justify naming him to the BofD.


 

Maybe he's taking his whole management team with him - and tech support?

Not saying 'NO' doesn't mean 'YES'.

The foolishness of one's actions or words is determined by the number of witnesses.

Perhaps if Brains were described as an APP, many people would use them more often.

Respect, like money, is only of 'worth' when it is earned - with all due respect, it can not be ordained, legislated or coerced. Anonymous
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@jocli76 wrote:

 

Ebay reps respond like a deer in the headlights; they don't understand why many ebay abhor the cozy and  mutually beneficial and corrupted eBay/WebInterpret collusion.

Glitches my donkey.

 


I think you're naive, or maybe just generous with that sweet dear analogy. I think they understand very well but are paid, and probably well, for the words ebay chooses to misconstrue. To not tow the party line is surely instant death. 

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