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Economy is nearly dead. Can that cause low sales?

I keep seeing tons of eBay sellers complaining about low sales. If there is a very weak economy caused by very poor leadership that would have an effect on sales. Crooks. 

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Re: Economy is nearly dead. Can that cause low sales?

weak economy, for whatever reason,  can certainly cause low sales, that would seem to be pretty universal.

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I haven't bought anything unnecessary - collectibles especially - in three years.  Yes, people are not spending for discretionary purchases like they used to.  The groceries that cost me $50 three years ago now cost over $120.  For most people there's no money left for non-essentials anymore.

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The economy is not in the best state, but it's not THAT bad, and you could monitor eBay's traffic to see the truth.

 

Many are seeing drops in sales that do NOT coincide with the differences in traffic and/or economy. 

 

In software design, like many other trades (such as auto mechanics, etc) you're taught to focus on the problems directly in front of you first, as those may end up solving other issues along the way, or at the very least, make the other problems easier to diagnose.

 

And let's be honest, eBay's site is an ABSOLUTE MESS for the last few months. Search bugs, pages showing the same items each page, ad glitches, the traffic page is broken in multiple ways, reporting false statistics, broken messaging, broken vehicle fitment tools, broken handling time, the list goes on and on.

 

There's also the things we can simply observe. Sudden changes every 2 weeks are not a result of the economy, those are the result of algorithm changes. Sales that "flatline" through weekends (when we have 10+ years of data to show that weekends have 1/3 of the sales of average days) are not natural. Supposed traffic statistics with 10%+ conversion rate are not natural.

 

We can't honestly say the economy is the issue unless eBay fixes their site and it is functioning as intended. Right now, it is clearly NOT functioning as intended.

 

EBay is broken.

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With so much money now going to bills, dinner and the gas pump. There is not a lot left. 

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Been through quite a few economic downturns.  Based on the past, my business usually booms during these times.  
Things that are needed, cheaper than the rest, sell well.
But not now.  It's not the economy at fault for my slower than normal sales.

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Economy has nothing to do with speculation about poor leadership and crooks. If the items you sell are things people can do without right now they don't buy. If you have very desirable items, people will find a way to come up with the $$ assuming you are not like 60% of Ebay sellers who overprice their stuff.

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Yes, the economy is pretty bad right now. However, there are still sales out there. Hang in there!!!🙏

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Funny seeing this thread today (I had to check something financial)

My "variable" monthly bills/expenses.....(April 2021 compared to April 2023)

Mortgage Payment (variable) - 311.88 vs 697.00 / month

Credit Card #1 - (variable interest portion) - 160.00 vs. 245.00 / month

Shell Card - (same vehicle and average mileage) - 176.00 vs. 242.00 / month

I won't bother with the other obvious natural gas and electric bills....

but I am obligated to add the Miller Lite Bill

Miller Lite - (per week) 1 - 12 pack (10.95) vs. 3 - 12 packs (38.85)

............

pretty obvious some average folks like me just don't have the same amount of "Mad Money" I had 2 years ago.......

 

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I guess it's how one care define leadership.  The USA had one of the most poor responses to the Pandemic on the face of the planet when nations such as say S. Korea and Japan with huge populations stuffed into an area less than the size of California fared far better.   Trillions of dollars were handed out most going to businesses who were not even in need.  Couple things with War in free Europe, commodities, uncertainty's and Americans having one to three months of money even before the pandemic.

 

The inflation is global and we've actually faired far better than many a nation.  Is consumer spending down?  Yeah, sure is but at the same time sellers ignore the elephants in the room.  They think about eBay, Amazon, Mercari etc and pay no consideration to the like's of Walmart, Macy's, Penny's, Kohls and many many many others.  Walmart snatched the #2 spot in eCommerce as their ship to store model is very hard to beat, the third party sellers are mostly brick & mortar and Walmart demands low Internet price or they'll hide listings.  They have vowed to grow the ecommerce presence by another 50% this year alone.  They are working with liquidators/warehousing and have been.  As I said in another post sometime back, I bought a 55" QLED JVC TV w/ all the bells and whistles, $248 to my door.  The Roku remote was bad, called Walmart, they gave me the number of the supplier.  Shipped me a new remote free, in talking with the person he told me Walmart online is becoming the preferred venue by which delisted products are moved.  My TV was delisted in favor a new model that was not even at market yet.  Bought an $800 BBQ grill for for less than 1/4 the MSRP and as of a few weeks back a $1400 basically gaming laptop for a bit over $450.

 

Then there is the result in other big retail from the Pandemic.  They got caught with their pants down, big brick and mortar who treated online presence as a sideline, no longer the case.  Atop that they being extraordinarily aggressive for consumer dollars.  My lady bought over $800 MSRP in stuff from Macy's for a bit over $250 bucks few weeks back.  When she compared pricing against Amazon and what she could find here she easily saved $250-$350 dollars.  That echoes an article I read in  The Financial Times, big retail is now taking the Internet very seriously and it's not going to stop basically.

 

Now sellers need to compete against big retail online.  That doesn't mean because I sell widgets and Macy's, Walmart and whatall Pennys dont so I'm good.  No, have to compete for consumer DOLLARS which are finite more so now than pre-pandemic and big retail online has just astonishing deals going on more and more so.

 

The economy is weaker than it's been and stronger than it's been at other times.  The difference is people are being mindful of money having or currently enduring hardships, couple that with big retail now embracing the Internet.  Walmarts revenue's are on the rocketship in store and online, Macy's is shipping to over 200 countries now and the list goes on.

 

Just the other night watching the news, 15% of cars bought in the last three years are being repossessed and of that 15%, 40% are basically middle class.  They interviewed a woman who owns a repo business and she said her repo's are up 300%, that's three times as many repo's daily than a year ago.

 

Amazon isn't laying off people for sake of a good time, these third party venues now have to compete, really compete for consumer dollars.  Yea, that sux and there is no end in sight...  The Pandemic effect is the Internet in eCommerce has "Grown up" basically.

 

 

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According to the National Retail Federation report, spending is up and continues consistent, supported by strong job and wage growth. Corporate inflation profiteering (thought by the Economy Policy Institute to contribute to about 1/3 of inflationary costs - starting in 2021), however, is another problem. Nice wallet-busting salaries for some of these CEOs.  I think eBay is kind of back-burner for a lot of people, and not only because they're pinching pennies (many are not), but because there is so much choice. 

 

Too much stuff.


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Economy is nearly dead

What is your definition of "nearly dead"?

 

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The problem is no one is held accountable anymore! Politicians or corporations!

 

Why did we go through the baby formula fiasco? Just one company in the U.S. produces! Really? What happened to the great American open competition in order for fair trade / prices for consumers? I don't have kids or grandchildren, but I know enough to see a red flag. 

 

We keep heading into more of a monopoly economy and the only way to clean it up is to keep removing the politicians with the 'for sale sign' on their back and pushing back on the corporations. 

 

I live in Indiana. The suppose 'Crossroads of America' state. That just really means drug trafficking, gun trafficking, and other illegal activities, but they do nothing. I was sent a notice about a credit for my 2023 property taxes a few weeks ago. I received my taxes this week, and they still went up. Looks like they claim my value went up, but even with the discount, my taxes went up just like they did the 5+ years. What a joke!

 

The roads suck here! I have to drive slow just to get out of my community due to all the Bumbs & holes. I believe the last time my community was repaved was in 2002.

 

We can easily go on and on here! 

 

 

 

 

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@chapeau-noir wrote:

According to the National Retail Federation report, spending is up and continues consistent, supported by strong job and wage growth. Corporate inflation profiteering (thought by the Economy Policy Institute to contribute to about 1/3 of inflationary costs - starting in 2021), however, is another problem. Nice wallet-busting salaries for some of these CEOs.  I think eBay is kind of back-burner for a lot of people, and not only because they're pinching pennies (many are not), but because there is so much choice. 

 

Too much stuff.


Certainly corporate salaries have been a talking issue for a long long time and that's true of other genre's of employment even in civil service.  School District administration, many areas of land have quite the teachers salaries where others do not...  Once upon a time civil service meant civil service resulting in a living wage and better benefit packages.  For example when I worked for local schools near 16 years I'd have 200 paid sick days annually, three personal days and five weeks paid vacation along with the obvious benefit packages.  No you didn't get paid for sick/personal days unused nor could you accrue them but every year, 200 more and I was in the support services staff. 

 

Related, I don't know what happens with the pending Bus Drivers deal as that's now a $27 an hour job here.  That's gonna result in districts going after more money and then of course there is the other support staff which surely be going, "$27 drive a bus?  What about the security folks, custodial, trades, kitchen staff, clerical/secretarial, in class teacher support staff, bus monitors etc."  And if they get wage increases you can bet teachers going to seek more as well.

 

As to choice agreed and its across the entire consumer spectrum short of some things like automobiles but that too change with all these repossessions going on.  There's rent, variable rate mortgages and then some and big business is vying for consumer dollars.  Some of the sales I've seen online via big retailers are just astonishing and it rather goes in tune with the backlogs of product sitting in warehousing.  Whilst America rather came to a sort of grinding halt as did much of Europe many areas of the world did not.  They continued produce goods, China for example, they just could not get it into many a mass market and now quite a bit of it is and has been being blown out at sale pricing online by the big boys.

 

Relative is a big "Poke' Person" (Pokemon) but she has not been buying much any of it because she's able get such deals on clothing and other merchandise.  She's already bought her kids clothes and such for the following school year, "Save now adding security (hopefully) for later..."  Smart.

 

 

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All of these above discussions are about products that are novelties... What about the necessities? (Such as auto parts). Or the fact that people are more likely to repair their car than buy a new car when the economy takes a downturn?

 

Yet even those of us who sell auto parts that are necessities are seeing a drop and patterns this year unlike any in the past.

 

As I said before, there's so many glitches and bugs that are easily observable on eBay right now. THEY are the problem that needs to be addressed first. Because the economy does not explain what we're seeing every day since (coincidentally) the date of eBay's updates (which on the exact date these traffic and sales patterns started, was the date that they broke handling time on all of our listings, and still hadn't fixed it completely).

 

The reasoning that "people don't have money for luxuries" doesn't fly for products that are necessities. 

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