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Ebay Authenticator made a wrong claim on my 100% Authentic bag to be fake!

As the procedure of selling a designer bag that sold, to be sent to Kamila Daskaliva at the Las Vegas address to confirm authenticity, as professional Ebay authenticator. With confidence, that my sold Dior bag was 100% authentic, because I bought it myself direct from the Dior Store & I have the original sales receipt to prove it, surprises me that the supposed professional authenticator, proclaimed my bag to be FAKE & cancelled my sale. They don’t reach out to the seller to provide proofs. There’s no contact information provided that these Authenticating department can be reach. These is a very bad experience for honest sellers like me, who already spent time & money selling my designer bags on Ebay. This is a warning for all sellers, Ebay authenticators are not that reliable in doing their jobs! I don’t think I will sell on Ebay again!

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When you got the bag back after it failed inspection, did you get any information on why it failed? I have learned that ebays authenticators don't really tell sellers why items fail except that they fail. Sometimes, it is not an authenticity issue but an item condition issue. It is very likely that your bag failed inspection because there was wear and tear that was not disclosed or shown in photos properly. I sell luxury handbags for a living and have found out over the years of using the Authentic Guarantee program that authenticators are so vague and they won't tell you the reason except saying "not authentic" when it could be an item condition problem. This is where having an eBay handbag account manager to ask why it failed, comes in handy. These account managers will go into depth of why the bag failed. You usually only get your personal account manager if you sell luxury handbags for a living on ebay.

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Oh goodness, nevermind my apologies. I see the Dior bag listing and just noticed that the listing has been taken down indefinitely. This indicates that this bag is deemed fake by them. I have seen other newer sellers trying to sell bags that I know for a fact are authentic, but eBay seems to think they are fake. Bags just like the ones I sell and none of mine have ever been deemed fake before… so it’s really interesting to me. It’s either  A) eBay only allows certain sellers to sell in this category, B) the bag is fake (but you say you bought it at the store so it’s that true then that can’t be it), or C) eBay is somehow suspecting that this is a product that was stolen and you’re trying to resell it. I haven’t been able to figure it out and what their take on it is, in regards to this situation and all of the other situations I have seen in the past couple of years since the program started.

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the bag is fake (but you say you bought it at the store so it’s that true then that can’t be it),

 

Just for information...........  There was a case not so long ago wherein a buyer bought real handbags at the brand stores and then returned a fake bag in the same model, got the full refund for the fake, sold the real one.......  She was convicted of fraud of over 1/4 million $ if I remember correctly.......  Apparently, the clerks weren't savvy enough to be able to tell the difference....so many of the fakes ended back on the shelves.......  These weren't $200-300 handbags........more like several $1000........

 

 

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Wow… I had heard about something like that now that I think of it!! That is awful is this happened to the OP. People are horrible.

 

This is why I always say do not take your bag to the flagship store and ask a clerk whether the bag you have is real fake. They have absolutely no idea and make up whatever answer they want.

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I 948F8DBB-3503-4C91-842B-615AD02557A3.jpegD695C88E-33F1-4114-8B3D-BA41EFDED231.jpegjust had a flawed experience with Ebay seller  & authentication process for Jewelry.  I bought a sapphire ring and seller did not adequately describe sapphire in listing so I asked for more information in messages and if sapphire was treated. (This was a red flag here.  Why was listing so vague.  I should have known better)   Seller responded to me, and I quote, “It is heated but no other treatments.” I placed offer based on his words. Ring  Went through authentication process and I received.  I noticed that ring wasn’t the same as pictures.  Ring I received looked like a lower quality version of what seller listed.  It was NOT the same. The sapphire face had lines and planes which was not in any pictures.  Diamonds were not uniform as was in ring.” Filigree” looked like it was melted off in some parts in comparison to listing images.  

I brought to local GIA ASA Master Gemologist Appraiser and paid for her to inspect ring in front of me. (Did not get written appraisal but when I get ring back from eBay, will be getting one)  Sapphire had Zoning throughout face and was not only heat treated, but FLUX-FILLED.  That in itself was NOT as described to me.  He lied in his messages.  There were 2 chipped stones (diamonds) on ring.  None of these things were revealed in his listing and therefore all authenticators had to do was verify the diamonds were what he said they were and carat weight of sapphire and diamonds were correct.  THAT was it!  I had ring in my possession for less than week.  Sent back.  Guess what, one accent diamonds fell out at some point before authenticators received it back. Gemologist had told me that this ring setting was 1-cast mounting and that diamonds were not well mounted and that this ring would not last over time.  She also said ring looked new and unworn.  It was listed as an estate piece.  So because an accent diamond fell out prior to authenticators receiving it, item did not go back as I “received” it.  They won’t tell me where this diamond fell out of it or if it were one chipped diamonds.  I am awaiting for ring to come back and taking it up with My Credit Card.  I offered to pay for diamond even though he sold me a poor quality ring.  Who gets jewelry where stones fall out in days?  How is this acceptable?  This seller designs rings for people if you look at his social platforms and NYC business.  He knows what he sold me.   This seller has had Google reviews in which customers diamonds have fallen out of their earrings and another review of BAit and switch.  I wrote an objective negative feedback and eBay took it out.  I specifically wrote that item not as described based on seller’s message to me and because of guaranteed authentication process, it was deemed “unfair “feedback.  They wouldn’t even let me revise my feedback.  So this seller has perfect feedback on eBay, many private listing feedbacks from same person over and over. not so perfect on google reviews.  I found out that eBay can remove negative feedback for you so who knows how many of these 100% feedbacks are truly accurate?

JEWELRY Authentication is flawed even for buyers.  You can have sellers like this one, sell you something of poor quality, lie to you in messages about description, receive a poor quality version of ring that was listed, have chipped diamonds in setting not disclosed, but still got to me.  I thought I was going be protected by authentication. Ebay customer service was wonderful with me and i think they tried.  They called and emailed seller to take ring back, but he refused.

And ebay has to stand by their flawed new system of guaranteed authentication.  Even if seller blatantly lied about description in messages.  Even if ring I received does not look like seller’s listing photos.  Even if I was told by gemologist I went to that this ring was poor quality and diamonds were not well mounted into setting.  They have to stand by their process.  I will NOT be buying anything from Ebay that has go through authentication again.  Hoping I have better luck with my credit card.  I think obtaining a written appraisal from a GIA ASA MASTER Gemologist Appraiser will carry more weight for me.  It is concrete proof vs my initial verbal inspection and some jotted down notes from her.  I would take any suggestions from members here. 

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@daniela632   wish u had paragraphs to make reading your post easier 🤔

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I did put in paragraphs and they came out!  I will rewrite and put line spacing in between this time.  Thanks 

 

 

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I had a negative experience with Ebay seller  & authentication process for Jewelry.  I bought a sapphire ring and seller did not adequately describe sapphire in listing so I asked for more information in messages and if sapphire was treated. (This was a red flag here.  Why was listing so vague.  I should have known better)   Seller responded to me, and I quote, “It is heated but no other treatments.” I placed offer based on his words.

 

Ring  Went through authentication process and I received.  I noticed that ring wasn’t the same as pictures.  Ring I received looked like a lower quality version of what seller listed.  The sapphire face had lines and planes which was not in any pictures.  Diamonds were not uniform as was in ring.” Filigree” looked like it was melted off in some parts in comparison to listing images.  

 

I brought to local GIA ASA Master Gemologist Appraiser and paid for her to inspect ring in front of me. (Did not get written appraisal but when I get ring back from eBay, will be getting one)  Sapphire had Zoning throughout face and was not only heat treated, but FLUX-FILLED.  That in itself was NOT as described to me.  He lied in his messages.  There were 2 chipped stones (diamonds) on ring.  None of these things were revealed in his listing and therefore all authenticators had to do was verify the diamonds were what he said they were and carat weight of sapphire and diamonds were correct.  THAT was it!  I had ring in my possession for less than week.  Sent back.  

 

one accent diamonds fell out at some point before authenticators received it back. Gemologist had told me that this ring setting was 1-cast mounting and that diamonds were not well mounted and that this ring would not last over time.  She also said ring looked new and unworn.  It was listed as an estate piece.  So because an accent diamond fell out prior to authenticators receiving it, item did not go back as I “received” it.  They won’t tell me where this diamond fell out of it or if it were one chipped diamonds.  I am awaiting for ring to come back and taking it up with My Credit Card.  I offered to pay for diamond even though he sold me a poor quality ring.  Who gets jewelry where stones fall out in days?  How is this acceptable?  

 

This seller designs rings for people if you look at his social platforms and NYC business.  He knows what he sold me.   This seller has had Google reviews in which customers diamonds have fallen out of their earrings and another review of BAit and switch.  I wrote an objective negative feedback and eBay took it out.  I specifically wrote that item not as described based on seller’s message to me and because of guaranteed authentication process, it was deemed “unfair “feedback.  They wouldn’t even let me revise my feedback.  So this seller has perfect feedback on eBay, many private listing feedbacks from same person over and over. not so perfect on google reviews.  I found out that eBay can remove negative feedback for you so who knows how many of these 100% feedbacks are truly accurate?

 

JEWELRY Authentication is flawed even for buyers.  You can have sellers like this one, sell you something of poor quality, lie to you in messages about description, receive a poor quality version of ring that was listed, have chipped diamonds in setting not disclosed, but still got to me.  I thought I was going be protected by authentication. Ebay customer service was wonderful with me and i think they tried.  They called and emailed seller to take ring back, but he refused.

 

And ebay has to stand by their flawed new system of guaranteed authentication.  Even if seller blatantly lied about description in messages.  Even if ring I received does not look like seller’s listing photos.  Even if I was told by gemologist I went to that this ring was poor quality and diamonds were not well mounted into setting.  They have to stand by their process.  I will NOT be buying anything from Ebay that has go through authentication again.  Hoping I have better luck with my credit card.  I think obtaining a written appraisal from a GIA ASA MASTER Gemologist Appraiser will carry more weight for me.  It is concrete proof vs my initial verbal inspection and some jotted down notes from her.  I would take any suggestions from members here. 

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I started selling on different platforms a few years back . Too many changes and the policies make 0 sense. I sold A David Yurman ring . I have my receipt. The contacted me several days later saying it couldn't be Authenticated. No correspondence no appeal process a complete waste of time . I won't sell anything on eBay over a certain dollar amount again.  I'm insulted. Clearly they have no clue of what they are doing at this authenticating place.

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Hi everyone,

Due to the age of this thread, it has been closed to further replies. Please feel free to start a new thread HERE if you wish to continue to discuss this topic.

Thank you for understanding.

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