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EBay turned on automatic return accept!

As we got in the office this morning we quickly noticed that eBay started auto accepting returns! 

 

We did NOT turn on this feature and made sure it was off in the past.

 

We can make our own return labels, frankly I don't trust eBay to even give us a label with the proper price point. Nor do I trust them to cancel the label if the item is not shipped.

 

There doesn't seem to be any way on here to even see the shipping prices directly!

 

Ridiculous....

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@missjen831 wrote:

@abfabvintage It’s not something the seller can opt in and out of, as far as I know. 

 

Last fall, eBay announced this https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/seller-updates/2017-fall/returns.html

 

so im thinking that since the word says “may automatically accept”, that they didn’t roll this out sitewide for all sellers with a return policy? Or maybe just GTC listings were affected by it until now with the spring & summer 2018 changes? 


As you said it was announced in the fall but it was applied just for remorse returns when buyers paid for returns.  If the seller offered free returns the label wouldn’t be automatically issued. But in the summer update they announced that it would also apply to free return listings.

https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/seller-updates/2018-summer/simplified-returns.html#m17-3-tb2

 

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@missjen831

 

Thx Jen. But I know in prior threads within this or last month (what dates constitutes Summer Updates?) about this a Blue stated the policy about Remorse returns which I think matched which I just told you how it operates for me. I don't know how to find that thread and I meant to print it out but forgot. Unless as of today (I have always said I wake up each day and another so called "policy" has been changed without notice). Thanks if you can find the Blue comment. I will try later today. If all has changed then I need to educate myself on how the RMA works. Thx.

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@goodluckselling wrote:

If you need special exceptions to the automated rules I would suggest calling and talking to a returns specialist and explain all your what if questions.

 

We only have the info ebay publishes and that is what we are trying to help you with.  Most of your answers have already been answered although they may not be what you wanted to hear?

 

Since you have outside eBay contract rates you might be able to do what many of the electronics sellers do?

 

They include inside the package a return shipping label for every package.  The buyer can then use the label by which the seller is charged the return shipping fee at that time or the buyer can not use it and the seller will not be charged for the return shipping label.

 

You should be able set this up with your carrier as part of your contracted rates.  You might even get lowered return shipping rates.

 

Good Luck Selling!


I'm only looking for fairness in the policy changes, and I just got off the phone with eBay where they admit to issues regarding this, specifically with communicating the policy changes clearly.

 

I'm not sure why you are so heavily calling it a "what if" when nearly any high volume seller uses negotiated rates, and this is a typical issue with return cases that is seen weekly, or sometimes daily, in high volume stores. I'm not sure why you are calling it "not what I want to hear" when eBay directly says you "may" use their automation, rather than "must" on the front page linked.

 

Usually other sellers can sympathize or empathize with unfair issues. It's strange that in this case, eBay's staff is being more understanding about the issues with returns right now, than other sellers are?

 

With that said, on the discussion with eBay on the phone, there IS a way to still allow yourself to send labels and use your own negotiated rates. On the phone, she turned on one of the RMA features, and once you use that, basically you will be given 2 days to send your own. If you do not by the 3rd day, THAT is when the label is automatically sent. 

 

 

She apologized for this not being communicated clearly. And considering the 55 minute hold time, there's a huge amount of sellers just as upset by the lack of communication.

 

Anyone else having issues with the automatic returns, you can let out a sigh of relief. I'm not sure where exactly on the eBay site the RMA option is, but if you call in, they should be able to help you out. 

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@zamo-zuan wrote:

I just checked the shipping labels page, it says no labels found. No way to check the charges for these labels???

I checked the returns page , we STILL have automatic returns set to OFF!

 

The only information I could find is it is telling us we must request to void a label within 5 days... what happens if the customer does not use the label within their alotted time then???

 

This is ridiculous!


eBay is allowling Sellers to pay for their errors as well as the venue's short comings ...

Regards,
Mr. Lincoln - Community Mentor
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@terrycanarsky wrote:

They gave us the option in fall. Now the option is being ignored ...

 

We originally had the option of Best Offer - and now we don't, it's placed on our listings for us.

 

We originally had the option of "Guaranteed Delivery" - and now we don't, we're auto-opted in (though technically we can opt out.  Maybe.)

 

We originally had the option of refusing returns - and now we don't.

 

There are a LOT of things sellers have been able to do in the not-distant past in the course of their business - but eBay determined that each of those were not profitable enough for its self-identified ideal.

 

~M


No, eBay decided that they could make more money by adding thses things...I do agree that returns should have been faster. Now eBay is guarenteed so many more labels=more money. 

 

You forgot the glitch where Sellers were automatically put in the Global Shipping program. The idea is great the partner they picked isn't. 

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I am just a very Plain Jane KISS person. On returns, all I want is a notice from either the buyer or ebay what they want and I have a choice to decide if I agree or disagree... AND in 99.9% of the cases get my item back (unless for some reason it was smashed on arrival, then I also want pictures before I decide what to decide. Guess I am asking for way too much.

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@zamo-zuan wrote:

@goodluckselling wrote:

If you need special exceptions to the automated rules I would suggest calling and talking to a returns specialist and explain all your what if questions.

 

We only have the info ebay publishes and that is what we are trying to help you with.  Most of your answers have already been answered although they may not be what you wanted to hear?

 

Since you have outside eBay contract rates you might be able to do what many of the electronics sellers do?

 

They include inside the package a return shipping label for every package.  The buyer can then use the label by which the seller is charged the return shipping fee at that time or the buyer can not use it and the seller will not be charged for the return shipping label.

 

You should be able set this up with your carrier as part of your contracted rates.  You might even get lowered return shipping rates.

 

Good Luck Selling!


I'm only looking for fairness in the policy changes, and I just got off the phone with eBay where they admit to issues regarding this, specifically with communicating the policy changes clearly.

 

I'm not sure why you are so heavily calling it a "what if" when nearly any high volume seller uses negotiated rates, and this is a typical issue with return cases that is seen weekly, or sometimes daily, in high volume stores. I'm not sure why you are calling it "not what I want to hear" when eBay directly says you "may" use their automation, rather than "must" on the front page linked.

 

Usually other sellers can sympathize or empathize with unfair issues. It's strange that in this case, eBay's staff is being more understanding about the issues with returns right now, than other sellers are?

 

With that said, on the discussion with eBay on the phone, there IS a way to still allow yourself to send labels and use your own negotiated rates. On the phone, she turned on one of the RMA features, and once you use that, basically you will be given 2 days to send your own. If you do not by the 3rd day, THAT is when the label is automatically sent. 

 

 

She apologized for this not being communicated clearly. And considering the 55 minute hold time, there's a huge amount of sellers just as upset by the lack of communication.

 

Anyone else having issues with the automatic returns, you can let out a sigh of relief. I'm not sure where exactly on the eBay site the RMA option is, but if you call in, they should be able to help you out. 


Congrats on calling as was suggested to you.  If your return does not fall within the automated areas then yes it is a what if scenario.

 

So now you have a better understanding about returns, BTW is spelled out in the link I gave you about 20 posts ago, and have asked several time for you to review and learn from.

 

Now you might want to learn about when using RMA numbers does the request time frame start when the buyer opens the request or when you approve the return with an RMA number?  This will be very important to make sure requests do not get escalated into cases because the working time frame eBay gives sellers expires.  Also make sure you understand if you do not meet the time frame for approving a return request with an RMA number what that might mean as well.

 

Good Luck Selling!

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@zamo-zuan

 

Apologize, don't mean to offend, But since you guys are WAY OVER what I list and might sell, I keep hearing call CS, but many times don't call CS due to inaccurate/false information. Unless you guys, because of your volume/sales,  have that special ebay account rep? 

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@abfabvintage wrote:

@goodluckselling

@zamo-zuan

 

Apologize, don't mean to offend, But since you guys are WAY OVER what I list and might sell, I keep hearing call CS, but many times don't call CS due to inaccurate/false information. Unless you guys, because of your volume/sales,  have that special ebay account rep? 


No we use the same reps you do.  I usually call when I have all the info in front of me and I tend to take control of the conversation and lead the rep through the details and ask for the solution I called about.  I do not mind talking to any of the reps foreign or local.

 

Good Luck Selling!

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Thanks for the reply. 

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ABvintage, I'm sorry I don't recall that thread but I'll def post a link if I find it 🙂



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@goodluckselling wrote:

@zamo-zuan wrote:

@goodluckselling wrote:

If you need special exceptions to the automated rules I would suggest calling and talking to a returns specialist and explain all your what if questions.

 

We only have the info ebay publishes and that is what we are trying to help you with.  Most of your answers have already been answered although they may not be what you wanted to hear?

 

Since you have outside eBay contract rates you might be able to do what many of the electronics sellers do?

 

They include inside the package a return shipping label for every package.  The buyer can then use the label by which the seller is charged the return shipping fee at that time or the buyer can not use it and the seller will not be charged for the return shipping label.

 

You should be able set this up with your carrier as part of your contracted rates.  You might even get lowered return shipping rates.

 

Good Luck Selling!


I'm only looking for fairness in the policy changes, and I just got off the phone with eBay where they admit to issues regarding this, specifically with communicating the policy changes clearly.

 

I'm not sure why you are so heavily calling it a "what if" when nearly any high volume seller uses negotiated rates, and this is a typical issue with return cases that is seen weekly, or sometimes daily, in high volume stores. I'm not sure why you are calling it "not what I want to hear" when eBay directly says you "may" use their automation, rather than "must" on the front page linked.

 

Usually other sellers can sympathize or empathize with unfair issues. It's strange that in this case, eBay's staff is being more understanding about the issues with returns right now, than other sellers are?

 

With that said, on the discussion with eBay on the phone, there IS a way to still allow yourself to send labels and use your own negotiated rates. On the phone, she turned on one of the RMA features, and once you use that, basically you will be given 2 days to send your own. If you do not by the 3rd day, THAT is when the label is automatically sent. 

 

 

She apologized for this not being communicated clearly. And considering the 55 minute hold time, there's a huge amount of sellers just as upset by the lack of communication.

 

Anyone else having issues with the automatic returns, you can let out a sigh of relief. I'm not sure where exactly on the eBay site the RMA option is, but if you call in, they should be able to help you out. 


Congrats on calling as was suggested to you.  If your return does not fall within the automated areas then yes it is a what if scenario.

 

So now you have a better understanding about returns, BTW is spelled out in the link I gave you about 20 posts ago, and have asked several time for you to review and learn from.

 

Now you might want to learn about when using RMA numbers does the request time frame start when the buyer opens the request or when you approve the return with an RMA number?  This will be very important to make sure requests do not get escalated into cases because the working time frame eBay gives sellers expires.  Also make sure you understand if you do not meet the time frame for approving a return request with an RMA number what that might mean as well.

 

Good Luck Selling!


I was actually on hold with them as I wrote the topic. Extremely long hold times, I'm assuming due to the same issues.

 

I obviously did read the post, several times. With all due respect... where, exactly, in any of the links that you offered, does it mention that RMA allows sellers to provide their own labels at their own cost? 

We have it saying new "options" - not forced policies.

 

We have it saying you "may" automate returns. Not you "will" or "must".

 

It states that only listings that were not updated to new procedures would be affected, and ours were up to date, and still affected - meaning our listings should "not" have even fit the "automated returns" scenario.

 

Any mention of RMA having any affect on shipping labels is not to be found.

 

Any instructions on how sellers could use their contracted shipping rates (as they made clear they were aware of in the GD scenario earlier this year) are not to be found.

 

Any instructions on how to stick with seller provided labels, rather than using the "option" of automation, are not to be found.

 

I'm not sure where this is "spelled out for us"? 

 


@abfabvintage wrote:

@goodluckselling

@zamo-zuan

 

Apologize, don't mean to offend, But since you guys are WAY OVER what I list and might sell, I keep hearing call CS, but many times don't call CS due to inaccurate/false information. Unless you guys, because of your volume/sales,  have that special ebay account rep? 


Don't quote me on this, but I believe if your phone number is associated with an anchor store subscription you receive higher tiers of support.

 

I hear of many sellers saying they get foreign CSR's. All of the CSR's I get on the phone are stationed in the same office in Utah. 

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@hillbillymedia wrote:

@hioctane62 wrote:

I noticed this last Friday. It was a "doesn't fit" remorse return on an item that was $10 with free shipping. I was thinking that since it would cost about $8 for the customer to send it back on their dime, they probably wouldn't. I rec'd it back on Wednesday, with an ebay generated label that showed "no postage necessary if mailed in the United States". So now it appears that not only are returns automatic, but ebay is also covering the buyer's postage for remorse returns.


Yup, either ebay is covering it or they are charging the buyers account. If ebay is covering the postage we are all paying for that with our ebay fees.

 

 

Ebay automated returns if you take returns, since you take them for any reason then.  Some would say they take returns, but really just wanted increased visibility.  They didn't want to take returns, even with buyer paying shipping.

 

If it was a for a remorse reason, the buyer is charged for the return label, unless you have free returns.

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This is odd because they auto turned mine on a few months ago and a few days ago they switched it back to me accepting. Not sure why

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@honestabe411 wrote:

This is odd because they auto turned mine on a few months ago and a few days ago they switched it back to me accepting. Not sure why


Maybe you happen to have had the RMA option on?

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