Double standard

[marflo_8892]

When did ebay have to start getting other people to do their work?

I thaught I was paying ebay to sell my items! I post interesting and unique stuff and only get three or four looks at my items!

I post same item with the (promotion) and it sells quickly but cost me over a third of the money in fees for both ebay and promotion sponsor.

Why am I selling on ebay, sounds like their sponsors should have their own site to sell your stuff. Why can't ebay promote my listing, isn't that what I  pay them for?

Why has ebay gotten this bad?

[chapeau-noir]

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@coolections wrote:

Please stop asking that same question every day. You've been shown at least 20 times now. No need to keep asking. Even when it is shown right in front of you, you refuse to believe it. Ebay has you fooled.

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To be fair, 99% *is* a little outrageous and I'm a bit curious, too.

[dbfolks166mt]

@coolections wrote:

Please stop asking that same question every day. You've been shown at least 20 times now. No need to keep asking. Even when it is shown right in front of you, you refuse to believe it. Ebay has you fooled.

To be fair, 99% *is* a little outrageous and I'm a bit curious, too.

     Same here. I have seen some of the examples but never a viable one. I would like to see the number on a $200 item with free shipping, which 75% of the listings have, and sold to a buyer in a state with 8% sales tax. 

[retro_entertainment_collectibles]

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@chapeau-noir wrote:

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@coolections wrote:

Please stop asking that same question every day. You've been shown at least 20 times now. No need to keep asking. Even when it is shown right in front of you, you refuse to believe it. Ebay has you fooled.

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To be fair, 99% *is* a little outrageous and I'm a bit curious, too.

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The question really is multi-faceted and bullet point:

• Mobile: Whilst cellphone real-estate screen resolution can match a PC/Laptop it does so in hugely physical space. Remember when Hi-Res phones first hit go to webs and the text & images, links be so tiny it was just torture.  Now-a-days all web development is "mobile first" and taught that way.  So how to use that real-estate in a multi-vendor environment:
  • Buy top billing (promoted listings)
  • Secure ranking based on vendor history, price, condition (other criteria?)
  • Go to a one listing multiple offers (aka:Amazon) format
  • Something else?  For example Amazon has the "Buy Box" where select vendors get more and/or lions shares of sales further sub-dividing the one listing multiple offers environment
• Consumer Safety:  As someone noted perhaps in another thread sellers being lost due to scammers.  Seller knows when they been scammed even though environmentally its "Whos right & wrong?"  The specific vendors KNOW if or not THEY scammed buyer(s)  and are certainly not the one's who are leaving at least by choice. 🤠   --  Yet consumer safety is certainly a big imperative in eCommerce today as choices are out there.
  
  
• Competitive Model:  This one's long and I am not gonna type it all out.
  
  • Seller pricing needs to be WEB competitive not just internal eBay competitive.
  • Feedback system is inadequate towards both buyer and seller transacting confidence.  It needs be augmented by statistical data.
  • The ability for buyers to localize shopping experiences like Facebooks model, on/off switch here.
    • With the above ability and ROBUST storefronts (features) much real-estate opens for localized advertising.  
    • More... Much more
  • Perhaps scale fee's based on earnings and actual transaction volume, small seller pay less than volume large seller sorta/kinda.
  • eBay needs implement a "high costing" transactional system safeguard.  Items of high value or of high scamination need be scrutinized whereby seller ships to eBay like eIS.  Returns come back to eBay for review, if a buyers a scammer notify the card issuing bank via card processor dispute whereby eBay performs a recovery of losses to vendor and site.  So Joe/sephine scams Rob/in out of her $1000 iPhone, eBay disputes it via card processor along WITH eBay fee's.  So now that $1000 just turned into a $1130 + processing fee's of $50 for the card processor and bank.
  • The returns timeframe window needs be VERY tightened and as I said above, REAL METRICS displayed buyer/seller.
  • I've more but there is only so many terrabytes of space on the forums servers.

[isaiah53-57]

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@chapeau-noir wrote:

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@coolections wrote:

Please stop asking that same question every day. You've been shown at least 20 times now. No need to keep asking. Even when it is shown right in front of you, you refuse to believe it. Ebay has you fooled.

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To be fair, 99% *is* a little outrageous and I'm a bit curious, too.

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Really?? @chapeau-noir

What you are questioning is a point of absurdity I made in response to an absurd statement made by luckytherwinner as shown below:

Luckythewinner wrote: "If I buy an item for $5 and sell it on eBay and make $20 profit, I don't care whether eBay took 1% of the buyer's payment or 99% of the buyer's payment. I made $20 either way."

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isaiah53-57 wrote: "You have to be ebays protector and biggest fan if you dont see a problem with ebay fees being 99% on a $2000 sale as long as you make your $20 - That, is an unhealthy relationship you have going there..."

I see users like sohmaryl and mam pulling words out of context quite often here, creating needless confusion and twisted, irrelevant points - But you haven't been lost to the dark side too have you?? say it isn't so chapeau-noir!

[coolections]

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@chapeau-noir wrote:

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To be fair, 99% *is* a little outrageous and I'm a bit curious, too.

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That I will agree with. Even though Ebay takes around 23% of your selling cost there is no way they would take 99%. 😀

[maxine*j]

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@marflo_8892 wrote:

... I thaught I was paying ebay to sell my items... 

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Well, there's your mistake.  You are not paying eBay to sell your items.  You are paying eBay for a place to sell your items, similar to renting a booth at a mall or a space at a flea market. 

It's up to you, then, to actually sell the items.  That means you must know your market, offer what people want at prices they will pay, write good titles and descriptions, provide clear and useful photographs, perhaps buy some additional advertising if you're selling in a packed field, and so on.

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[chapeau-noir]

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@isaiah53-57 wrote:

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@chapeau-noir wrote:

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@coolections wrote:

Please stop asking that same question every day. You've been shown at least 20 times now. No need to keep asking. Even when it is shown right in front of you, you refuse to believe it. Ebay has you fooled.

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To be fair, 99% *is* a little outrageous and I'm a bit curious, too.

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Really?? @chapeau-noir

What you are questioning is a point of absurdity I made in response to an absurd statement made by luckytherwinner as shown below:

Luckythewinner wrote: "If I buy an item for $5 and sell it on eBay and make $20 profit, I don't care whether eBay took 1% of the buyer's payment or 99% of the buyer's payment. I made $20 either way."

In response....

isaiah53-57 wrote: "You have to be ebays protector and biggest fan if you dont see a problem with ebay fees being 99% on a $2000 sale as long as you make your $20 - That, is an unhealthy relationship you have going there..."

I see users like sohmaryl and mam pulling words out of context quite often here, creating needless confusion and twisted, irrelevant points - But you haven't been lost to the dark side too have you?? say it isn't so chapeau-noir!

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@isaiah53-57  I just found the argument very odd.

[dbfolks166mt]

@chapeau-noir wrote:

To be fair, 99% *is* a little outrageous and I'm a bit curious, too.

That I will agree with. Even though Ebay takes around 23% of your selling cost there is no way they would take 99%. 

     Still waiting to see how you get the 23% using a realistic example. I.E. Sale of a $200 item with free shipping, which 75% of the listings have, not using PL,  and sold to a buyer in a state with 8% sales tax. 

[robbie31415]

I wonder if people are confusing selling costs with eBay fees.

I buy my labels on pirateship so my performance tab reports eBay fees and selling costs at 14%.

[dbfolks166mt]

I wonder if people are confusing selling costs with eBay fees.

I buy my labels on pirateship so my performance tab reports eBay fees and selling costs at 14%.

     A lot of sellers lump the shipping cost in with the eBay fees although most sellers use free shipping and bake the cost of the shipping, and the fees on the shipping into their listing price. It skews a lot of sellers calculations and eBay doesn't help any by lumping the shipping costs into the percentage they show on the seller hub. Like you my eBay fees which is all that shows on my seller hub runs between 14-15%. 

     Like you I don't buy my labels off eBay but use Pirate Ship which has about the same discounted rates as eBay but offers some other classes. I also charge the labels to my cash back CC so it's a bigger win by using Pirate Ship. 

[brightlightbookseller]

I sure don't.  We pay approximately 14% in fees total.  Granted, we're TRS, so those who are not would pay a little more, but nowhere near 22-26% unless you've been penalized for being Below Standard.